Most of the time people who've been kicked could've performed better, or made a bigger contribution with a little more effort from the group. Generally I just try to help people, but there are cases where someone signed as a healer, but is a DPS or goes AFK after each boss.
What happened was that a boss started evading at 30% and got stuck and I couldn't get him out (I was tanking). From my four years of experience playing WoW the only way I know how to get an evading mob from stopping to evade is to attack him from a certain angle and then pull him out which wasn't really working. Me moving away didn't work either but the other guy thought differently and blamed me for having to restart the boss. He simply didn't understand, I tried to explain but he kept 'yelling' and insulting.
My point is, there are too many people with different opinions for something like this to work properly.
Before LFD we (I) just accepted that the leader had the power to kick and I just didn't group again with people who were trouble for me. Now it is just one big mess. I can ignore people so LFD doesn't group me up with them again but that is just pointless when I am grouped up with different players every single dungeon.
Bane of my life sometimes...if only I had all the power....
I don't understand people are defending the current LFD. I really don't see the fun in playing with people in groups who obviously have no interest in playing the game but only want the reward. It happens way too much that people go afk, are just auto attacking or whatever you can come up with. Only 10% of my groups are actually fun.
Without LFD it wasn't ideal but at least if someone put in the effort to find a group you know they want to be there and anyone who thought they could leech were dealt with.
I also very rarely kick anyone, so can also do it from the start, and yeah, the system is there for a reason, cause it otherwise gets abused more, but ofcourse it isnt without flaws.
I was once kicked from a group in wotlk for playing a BM hunter. All it took was for one asking me in a pretty bad way WHY I was BM I should go respecc right away and I answered, because I liked it. He started a kick, peole didnt even check if it was a good reason, they just press "yes" atleast 90% of the times the box comes up, thinking people probable wouldnt start it without a good reason.
It didnt matter that I was actually first on dps, didnt ninja pull or ninja loot or anything. There was a box to click so they did.
Also seen it used when people didnt wanted to roll on loot against others, or if the other won a item that was a upgrade and wouldnt give it up. It is already being abused, and was from the beginning.
With that being sad, there sometimes ARE a reason to kick people, where it is hard or cant be done. Like a dragon soul lfr where a mage stayed dead for the whole Deathwing fight for a few tries to boss died, because no more people could be kicked from that group. Since I wasent in the raid for the first 3 bosses, no idea what kind of people they had already kicked and if they deserved it or not.
Or DPS that sign as a tank, and then refuse to leave so the group can get a real tank or tank.
No system is ever without flaws (sadly), but people often kick for the wrong reasons instead of thinking, that the replacement might be far worse and would actually had deserved it.
Someone in the group will be able to kick even if you can't, esecially so in LFR. In LFR all you have to do is call out, "Kick X for being afk" and they will be kicked even if the person wasn't actually AFK. You can typically do the same in a 5 man but you can't do it anonymously when you call it out.
absolutley wrong to not be able to kick with impunity when the group agrees. however it is also not fair that someone who has been kicked by, say a guild or server group has to take a re que penalty.
There is no bad RNG only bad L2P
Vote kick is a tool to get rid of people that is:
B) Dont want to pledge to the group consensus
And yeah,being AFK is a lack of respect for the group.
Vote kick is not a pro-meter.Its not a tool to get rid of people that dont meet your performance criterium and thats how Blizzard designed it.
You ask:"Why cant I kick more often?".You already got the answer.Blizzard believes you can meet smartass people every 40 minutes but dont believe theres a good chance to meet them every 10 min(i am not expressing my personal opinion,if someone is interested - i doubt it- just ask).So the reason is to prevent this tool to be used as a pro-meter.
And thats all.A lot of people thinks they got the right to kick people doing half his dps but Blizzard thinks otherwise.
Thank you for your attention.