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    Dreadlord Elessa's Avatar
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    Rate the Holy Paladin Above You!

    1. Don't troll.
    2. If you are replying or answering a question, but do not rate the person above you, you must copy the latest persons armory (assuming he rated someone as well) and put it in your post like this:
    *link* This guy has not been rated yet
    3. Don't just say "rate me please" without rating someone. If you feel like you're not experienced enough to rate someone, give it a shot anyway, or PM one of the "regular raters".
    4. Show respect to your fellow Paladins. Even if they suck and do stupid things with their gear, let them know this in a kind way, and give examples on how they can improve.
    5. Sometimes the Armory doesn't work. Please be patient and don't forget rule 2. if someone gets skipped because of it.

    Start your post with a small introduction of yourself, reasons why you might not have X or Y and mistakes or improvements you already know you can make.

    You are not supposed to just rate the person by saying "6/10" and then linking your own armory. Please give examples on how they can improve, or give cimpliments on things they've done right. Point out possible upgrades, etc, etc.

    I'll start.
    This is me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...trider/Elioda/
    I'm currently working on the second reset of BoT and BwD, and I know there's alot of upgrades to be had later on.
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    You are currently in Prot Gear sadly I cannot comment!

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shern/advanced

    On our 3rd reset of 11/12 clears, but I've been unlucky and lucky in equal measures!

    EDIT:
    Now you aren't!

    8/10 - Everything seems good with gemming, spec, talents, reforging, glyphs. The only thing that could be better is your gear and thats really not in your power as you've got the crafted stuff covered already. Id perhaps drop mining for a "raiding" prof though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulkesshern View Post
    You are currently in Prot Gear sadly I cannot comment!

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shern/advanced

    On our 3rd reset of 11/12 clears, but I've been unlucky and lucky in equal measures!

    EDIT:
    Now you aren't!

    8/10 - Everything seems good with gemming, spec, talents, reforging, glyphs. The only thing that could be better is your gear and thats really not in your power as you've got the crafted stuff covered already. Id perhaps drop mining for a "raiding" prof though
    I'm getting the shield crafted unless I get one next reset. I acually dropped Alchemy for Mining (was only 450) because I wanted an epic helicopter, and there where no (or ridicolously overpriced) Khorium Ore/bars on the AH. I also wanted a moneymaker that doesn't take any effort, and that just kind of earns money on it's own while you do other stuff. Alchemy wasn't like that. At least not i WotLK.

    Gear and reforging looks good. I don't like the way you gem though.

    Int is always worth more than haste and spirit. You've got 8 reckless gems while you only need 2 for the meta. You shouldn't be using pure spirit gems either, spirit/ints hybrids are OK if the socket bonus is worth it but only (!) in blue sockets.
    The decision you made when you put 40 spirit gems in your gear contrdicts the decision you made when you enchanted +15 stats instead of 40 spirit, you would have lost less stats by using spitit/int hybrids in your blue sockets.

    The Mandala trinket that you have is actually pretty bad. It has spirit instead of int, and uncontrollable thoughput procs are quite bad. Especially mastery ones. Try to get the Core of Ripeness, it's amazing. Sea Star is actually better imo, I use it on some fights... It's GREAT when you need to rotate thoughput CD's.

    Your spec:
    Conviction is actually only 9% healing TAKEN, not healing done. You might want to spec out of that.
    Also, having 2 points in Paragon is Virtue is pretty much mandatory... 30 seconds less CD on HoSac is amazing since you can actually use that spell now without getting insta-gibbed. 1 Minute less CD on AW is awesome for obvious reasons.
    You only need one point in Enlightened Judgements to get hitcapped for judging, so spec one point out of that and move it to Improved Judgement in the ret tree, you get 5 yards "free" range on Judgement by doing that. You now have 1 more point that you can spend however you like, I would recommend another in Improved Judgement, reulting in 35 yard range on Judgement. This allowes you to stand at range while still judging on CD, resulting in more mana gained from judgement.

    I would say 6.5/10
    Gear could be better obviously, but that's not in your control.
    However enchanting, gemming and specing is 100% in your control, and that is why i gave you a "low" rating.


    Feel free to rate me, but since i've been rated a few minutes ago and you don't want to I don't mind.
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    Last edited by Elessa; 2011-01-14 at 07:16 PM. Reason: forgot spec

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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/abort/simple

    I just recently switched from prot so some pieces of my gear has more mastery than i'd like... but o well I guess.

    @Elissa

    Your gear looks good. I'll re-iterate what Ulk said, you need to get ahold of the stormshield asap lol. It is so cheap to make and has great itemization (spirit, straight haste, no stupid mastery). I'd get +50 onto that cloak. It sounds/looks like you may be low on gold, but if you strike it rich, I'd invest some gold on Power Torrent for a weapon enchant. It's hella expensive, but more recent theorycrafting suggests that the mana regen isn't too far behind spiritsong, while providing good throughput (sp + crit).

    Edit: Since I obviously don't want to double post in this, I'll write my reply to my gear review.

    @Endgame - Thanks a lot for the comments. First of all, WOW I have no idea how I forgot about that third chimera eye gem.... herp derp. I was really liking eternal glory due to all the free 24k+ heals I was getting from WoG, but I guess now that I think about it, I have to cast Divine Light on my beacon target more than i thought and AoE raid damage really makes LoD better. I am not in a raiding guild so I've only raided a little as a sub in one of the larger raiding guilds on my server. I guess I'll develop my healing style more as I go.
    Last edited by barnard2007; 2011-01-14 at 07:52 PM. Reason: Commenting on my review

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnard2007 View Post
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/abort/simple

    I just recently switched from prot so some pieces of my gear has more mastery than i'd like... but o well I guess.

    @Elissa

    Your gear looks good. I'll re-iterate what Ulk said, you need to get ahold of the stormshield asap lol. It is so cheap to make and has great itemization (spirit, straight haste, no stupid mastery). I'd get +50 onto that cloak. It sounds/looks like you may be low on gold, but if you strike it rich, I'd invest some gold on Power Torrent for a weapon enchant. It's hella expensive, but more recent theorycrafting suggests that the mana regen isn't too far behind spiritsong, while providing good throughput (sp + crit).
    Just because I can: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...orith/advanced
    I have some subpar gems, but I've got upgrades incoming.

    @Barnard2007
    Your spec needs some work, namely, 2/3 ToR is terrible. The talent sucks for requiring 3 talents points but it's really an all or nothing talent. Move a point from Eternal Glory to ToR. It's a far far far better use of the talent point. Your gear is pretty good, tho you are only using 2/3 Chimera Eyes.

    Glyphs are ok, I'm contemplating dropping the WoG prime glyph for DF myself since I rarely use WoG in a raid. HOWEVER. You really need to get the Light of Dawn major glyph, swap it for beacon of light. It's a far better use of the glyph slot.

    7.5/10

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    I'm afraid that I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to rate anyone else. Therefore, I will repost the link above mine as well as mine. I'm looking for advise as to what I should be working towards -- specifically for PVP purposes. I know what I have is probably bare minimum. But with regard to enchants, gems, etc, recommendations are greatly appreciated.

    One above mine:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...orith/advanced

    Mine:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lendrin/simple

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    Questionable meta. In fact, very questionable. Mastery gem in head? Your ring. Reforged Mastery to Crit? Instead of Spirit? Your gloves, you reforged spirit to haste instead of the crit? Crit is bad. Mastery is bad. Spirit isn't bad, neither is Haste.


    To the guy above, well. PvP gear, greens, seems like you just dinged or something, so I honestly can't really rate. What I can tell you is that your spec is quite bad. Glyph of beacon of light is also bad.

    Me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../asrial/simple

    I'm in the airforce so can't really raid, though I have cleared some random bosses with my guild, but I don't bid on gear, thus I'm limited to heroic / rep / JP / VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Questionable meta. In fact, very questionable. Mastery gem in head? Your ring. Reforged Mastery to Crit? Instead of Spirit? Your gloves, you reforged spirit to haste instead of the crit? Crit is bad. Mastery is bad. Spirit isn't bad, neither is Haste.


    To the guy above, well. PvP gear, greens, seems like you just dinged or something, so I honestly can't really rate. What I can tell you is that your spec is quite bad. Glyph of beacon of light is also bad.

    Me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../asrial/simple

    I'm in the airforce so can't really raid, though I have cleared some random bosses with my guild, but I don't bid on gear, thus I'm limited to heroic / rep / JP / VP.
    Wow, I don't have any remarks at the moment. Your gear is nice, is gemmed and enchanted. Your spec looks good. You gemmed right, although I prefer haste>spirit on some reforges.

    My char: Fauve on Aerie peak US (cant post links yet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boargrylls View Post
    Wow, I don't have any remarks at the moment. Your gear is nice, is gemmed and enchanted. Your spec looks good. You gemmed right, although I prefer haste>spirit on some reforges.

    My char: Fauve on Aerie peak US (cant post links yet)
    Looks pretty good. Decently specced, and gemmed. Slight minus for missing shoulder enchant, and having pvp boots tho. 8/10

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/celdarion/

    me

    Edit: Glyphed turn evil and cleanse for some bgs, otherwise it's divinity and plea.
    Last edited by Proberly; 2011-01-21 at 11:41 AM.

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    Where did all the holy pallies go?

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    Nice gear, hopefully ill get smt shiny tonight. Why no Conviction??
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    8/10, gear looks good, enchants all done, in gemming i´d prefer the 20int/20sp or 20int/20haste gems over 40 sp.
    u love haste dont you? :-)

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    edit: silly boy i am, logged out in tank gear -.-
    just step over to next one or rate Ptolemus instead ;-)

    edit2: just logged out in heal gear&specc
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptolemus View Post
    Nice gear, hopefully ill get smt shiny tonight. Why no Conviction??
    Looking quite ok, you seem to know what kind of gear to go for (spi/haste).
    I wouldn't gem pure gems though but go for the mixxed ones instead f.x int/haste int/spi

    I would also remove 1p from imp judgements and put it in aura mastery instead. You rarely are that far away from something to judge.

    Buying that cloak prolly wasn't the best idea try to get it reimbursed if you can (mastery yuck) and get the ring/trinket instead. If you have some gold laying around buy the valor boots for gold aswell.

    Drop mining and get a proper proffession I reccomend jc. The jc gems only are way more versetaile then any other proffessions +stats.

    And here's my armory Solf

    Fixing the chest enchant
    not sure about speed on boots so far 9/12 i haven't felt the need for that speed.
    getting PT enchant as soon a proper wpn drops
    Last edited by solf; 2011-01-21 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptolemus View Post
    Nice gear, hopefully ill get smt shiny tonight. Why no Conviction??
    Because conviction only applies to healing done ON you, not the healing you do to others. So it's pretty much worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    Because conviction only applies to healing done ON you, not the healing you do to others. So it's pretty much worthless.
    its probably fixed, you can specc to it again.

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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...is/brao/simple

    Kind of lost track of whose above me but feel free to rip into my pally. i should note i just got the shield of the blind dragon. reforged to haste and the 100 int chant. I'm probably going to change my spec a little soon. and i know i really need new trinkets.

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    And here's my armory Solf
    8/10... stats are what they're supposed to be. I would have personally gemmed for the socket bonuses in your chest/legs. Spec looks good, though I think putting points in Blessed Life might be worth playing with. Glyphs look good. Nice pally.

    Armory is in my sig. Awful cloak luck but /shrug.

    *Edit* I have glyph of holy wrath up there, but normally it's the other LoH glyph. I have a few dust in my bag to switch things around when I need to.
    Last edited by Taygete; 2011-01-21 at 03:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taygete View Post
    8/10... stats are what they're supposed to be. I would have personally gemmed for the socket bonuses in your chest/legs. Spec looks good, though I think putting points in Blessed Life might be worth playing with. Glyphs look good. Nice pally.

    Armory is in my sig. Awful cloak luck but /shrug.

    *Edit* I have glyph of holy wrath up there, but normally it's the other LoH glyph. I have a few dust in my bag to switch things around when I need to.
    7/10 Enchanting, reforging and gemming are going the right direction. And well done on getting the Doll trinket.

    This is me:
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nimeiya/simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by wartank View Post
    7/10 Enchanting, reforging and gemming are going the right direction. And well done on getting the Doll trinket.
    9/10 Only thing I see to complain about is the PVP weapon. Not a huge fan of raiding with PVP gear, but if it's your best weapon, fair enough. Everything else seems fine. I don't agree with some of your talent choices, most notably Conviction, but if you're working on heroics (which you probably are since you've cleared everything on normal) then maybe you feel the need to have that 9% extra healing on yourself and that's cool.

    As for me, I'm a forum noob so I can't post you my armory link, but I'm Tristrix on US-Tichondrius if you don't mind looking it up.

    -edit- For some reason I can't get the armory to update me. I've replaced the blue bracers and boots with the bracers from Cho'gall and the valor point boots. It'd rock if people could actually see that but whatever.
    Last edited by Tristrix; 2011-01-21 at 03:37 PM.

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    For Me: Spec differences are
    Only 1 point in Last Word, due to that spell mostly being cast on the OT and the OT rarely reaches 35%.
    Only 1 point in EG, with changes to EG giving the spell an Internal Cooldown i felt 2 points were wasted.
    2 in Blessed Life, 3 in ToR, massive HP build up.

    Thinks thats all thats different.

    To above poster: I will rate you as soon as i find you on Amoury, happy to look you up, though i do need to say this
    most notably Conviction, but if you're working on heroics (which you probably are since you've cleared everything on normal) then maybe you feel the need to have that 9% extra healing on yourself and that's cool.
    Conviction now works correctly. The 9% bonus healing works on all heals cast, regardless off the target. Its extremely important =P

    Edit: 6/10.
    Would be higher rated if you speced into conviction but thats an easy fix now you know it isn't bugged anymore.
    Imo your trinket choice is bad. You don't have any intellect trinkets, and you choose to go for one that gives you stamina (the 40% buff on flasks and the slight haste increase doesn't make it good)
    You also went for a Mastery gem in your head. Spirit or even Crit would have been better.
    Just a few things to work on IMO that needs to be worked on.
    Last edited by Ishau; 2011-01-21 at 05:41 PM.
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