Enhancement Shamans taking 'Convection' talent in PVP?

[zealtek]

Hey guys im pretty confused because I've see a few high rated enhancement shamans taking the 'convection' talent in their pvp specs and I am really not sure why they need it. Can anyone clarify this for me please? Thanks!

[Dollplaylol]

Because their spells cost mana.

[Nab]

Enh has a really low mana pool, and we need mana for our spells so whatever reduces the mana cost is helpful.

[zealtek]

Enh has a really low mana pool, and we need mana for our spells so whatever reduces the mana cost is helpful.

Maybe in wrath but I'm in a 2s and 3s team and I never go below 90% mana. I thought primal wisdom cleared all that up for us :S

[Stanton Biston]

They took it because they felt they needed it. If you don't need it, good for you. Don't take it then.

Some of us have to regularly fight long arena matches or face off against a warlock and a shadow priest and deal with crazy drains.

[Cragen]

Maybe in wrath but I'm in a 2s and 3s team and I never go below 90% mana. I thought primal wisdom cleared all that up for us :S

While I don't have it my self I can see it being quite useful after having hard cast heals and after the purge nurf hits I can absolutely seeing it being worth it over 2 points in concussion.

Anything to decrease the mana costs of our damage abilities when we're are 1k mana after having purged something.

[Mytheus]

I like to play on my shaman (lvl 82 atm) but im still able to nuke people, and my mana isen't getting low? But I guess it is something else in arena, since fights can take like forever

[Deleted]

Enh has a really low mana pool, and we need mana for our spells so whatever reduces the mana cost is helpful.

If you are running low on mana, try melee dpsing.

With primal wisdom, mental quickness, SR and MW enhancement should never ever run out of mana, save when healing constantly.

[Xyborg]

The ONLY reason I can even guess this might be viable is for when I use Spiritwalkers Grace on a high movement phase of a fight (Ex. Argaloth's Fel Firestorm) and I throw a Lava Burst and then spam 3 Lightning bolts. But even then, I'm rarely low enough on mana to worry about it when I get back into Melee range.

[zealtek]

The ONLY reason I can even guess this might be viable is for when I use Spiritwalkers Grace on a high movement phase of a fight (Ex. Argaloth's Fel Firestorm) and I throw a Lava Burst and then spam 3 Lightning bolts. But even then, I'm rarely low enough on mana to worry about it when I get back into Melee range.

Yeah but I was mainly referring to PVP. Idk i mean as one of the earlier posters said, LB isnt really that much of a big deal in PVP and i can maybe see more of a use for the 2 points in convection if purge is gna be a mana drain. But yeah like I am at 1600 in 2s and 3s atm and i am not seeing much mana drain. Oh well I just wanted to know

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If you are running low on mana, try melee dpsing.

With primal wisdom, mental quickness, SR and MW enhancement should never ever run out of mana, save when healing constantly.

This, SR is only 1 min CD and like theres no reson to be completely oom unless u were healin urself a ton, but pro enh shamans will l2 heal with MW5 more often, even if i have low health i will still try and melee to get my stacks up, so yea XD

[Mufasaprime]

Yeah but I was mainly referring to PVP. Idk i mean as one of the earlier posters said, LB isnt really that much of a big deal in PVP and i can maybe see more of a use for the 2 points in convection if purge is gna be a mana drain. But yeah like I am at 1600 in 2s and 3s atm and i am not seeing much mana drain. Oh well I just wanted to know [COLOR="red"]

k i highlighted the part im about to talk about in bold letters
the thing is, getting to 1800 now a days is laughable, how laughable you may ask? well for my 2's team, i used it to power level friends and guild mates to 1500 (which usally took an hr to do, mattering on loses and que times) and then for the lolz, i joined for my 3's healer to power level to 2k (woulda hit farther but my internet died D: )

pretty much where im getting at, at 1800+ you will see more anti comps, spell cleave, and mana drain teams coming at ya, pretty much to a point where if you dont understand how to fight said comp, enjoy getting cc'd/kited

[redandco]

I asked about this in the Shaman thread and the best reply that I got was that it is to help with kiting. I can see why it would help in that scenario in 1v1 but in my experience in Arena's we are spending more time trying to not get kited by casters. And warriors are so hard to kite right now I'm better of just CCing them.

But who am I to judge when Flexxi, the highest rated Enhancement Shaman, has 2 points in Convection. I think I'm going to be taking that talent though when the Purge nerf hits as long as that talents applies to its mana cost as well.

[Deleted]

I think this talent is very useful for a 2 DPS setup for enhancement. It allowed us to use more heals next to the regular damage abilities.

Incase of a Healer/Enhancement setup it would be less good since ( probably ) less selfheals are used

[zealtek]

k i highlighted the part im about to talk about in bold letters
the thing is, getting to 1800 now a days is laughable, how laughable you may ask? well for my 2's team, i used it to power level friends and guild mates to 1500 (which usally took an hr to do, mattering on loses and que times) and then for the lolz, i joined for my 3's healer to power level to 2k (woulda hit farther but my internet died D: )

pretty much where im getting at, at 1800+ you will see more anti comps, spell cleave, and mana drain teams coming at ya, pretty much to a point where if you dont understand how to fight said comp, enjoy getting cc'd/kited

you are most definately right. i guess i just haven't experienced much high end arena teams where they are actually designed to counter everything you do. i can definately see you guys' points of views and this talent will be alot more useful when the purge nerf hits. escuse my ignorance lol i just havent had that much experience in arena whereby i could see enhancement shamans finding that talent useful. all your posts have been very helpful thank you