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    So many hated the end - I just hated that it ended - but all good things come to an end. The end, while sad and emotional, was perfect in keeping with Dexter's thought process.

    At the end of the day Dexter was a serial killer, he was never going to have a happy ending. Deb dying was perfect fit with Dexter losing his father and wife...All because of him and who he was. Everyone he got close to died or got hurt. Dexter survived because he is unique. A force of nature himself but he had to sacrifice his happiness to protect Harrison and Hanna. What happened to Deb proved it to him.

    “I destroy everyone I love. And I can’t let that happen to Hannah. To Harrison. I have to protect them. From me.” –#Dexter

    I'm going to miss Dexter so much.. Especially soundtracks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xxizpHuoo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSsOnShqhw4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeBs9uTu4E
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yigfh8MDB0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkEl9TVJBMw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKR6BZxE4yg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evix View Post
    So many hated the end - I just hated that it ended - but all good things come to an end. The end, while sad and emotional, was perfect in keeping with Dexter's thought process.

    At the end of the day Dexter was a serial killer, he was never going to have a happy ending. Deb dying was perfect fit with Dexter losing his father and wife...All because of him and who he was. Everyone he got close to died or got hurt. Dexter survived because he is unique. A force of nature himself but he had to sacrifice his happiness to protect Harrison and Hanna. What happened to Deb proved it to him.

    “I destroy everyone I love. And I can’t let that happen to Hannah. To Harrison. I have to protect them. From me.” –#Dexter

    I'm going to miss Dexter so much.. Especially soundtracks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xxizpHuoo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSsOnShqhw4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeBs9uTu4E
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yigfh8MDB0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkEl9TVJBMw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKR6BZxE4yg
    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    I'm going to miss dexter too. That music always gives me chills. (in a good way. )

  3. #883
    So much bad writing in the last few episodes:

    Wanted fugitive Hannah Doesn't bother to cut or dye her hair or attempt to change her appearance in any way, proceeds to walk around in broad daylight.
    Wanted fugitive Hannah can't be bothered to even put on a big hat and sunglasses when taking Harrison to the hospital.
    Also apparently no hospitals or hotels in miami has security cameras, or the cops / marshal never think to check them.
    Airport security does not recognize a woman who is on the US marshals wanted list.

    Nobody recognizes the most wanted man in miami as he strolls around a hospital.
    ...or sees him when he knifes a guy a parking lot.
    Cliche "take a vet hostage cause I can't go to a hospital" scene.

    Climatic Saxon vs Dexter fist fight literally ends before it even starts.

    Dexter letting saxon live is retardedly implausible, he knows everything about Dexter and the possibility that he could tip the police off to him is to much of a risk, especially when Dexter has already been accused and narrowly avoided these accusations before. It's probable that Batista or what's his name, the chief of police guy, would get suspicious that maybe laguerta was right. Even though he is planning to flee the country the attention is bad for him AND Deb.

    Also how many times does Dexter not kill someone only to have it come back to bite him in the ass? Learn from your mistakes dumbass.

    Ellway just magically finds Hannah on the bus when "one of his sources comes through". Bullshit. Plot convenience. Bad writing.
    Hannah drugs him with a needle in public. Nobody notices. Flat out describes what she just did on a crowded bus. No one hears it.
    She also apparently had her peripheral vision surgically removed to not see him flat out sit down next to her.
    Ellway knew where she was going and what... he just wakes up on the bus and never tells anyone or looks for her? ever?

    Aster and Cody mentioned once, in passing, the entire season.
    Guess the grandparents aren't going to care what happened to their grandson? or his father?

    Dexter leaving his kid with poisoner who he has known for what? A month? Less? Who has poisoned him and his sister (twice). Love really is blind.
    Also harrison is apparently wolverine and his chin magically healed without having to have the stitches removed.
    Nobody is going to question the disappearance of harrison?

    Nurses don't rush into a room with a crash cart when a patient flatlines.
    Nobody even looks at Dexter as he walks out with a body.
    ...or loads the body on a boat.

    The whole Matsuoka's daughter plot point going nowhere. We don't even get an emotional father / daughter scene or something? Existed solely to pad the episodes. Insulting.

    Dexter dumping his sisters body in the same manner he dumped countless pedophiles and murderers.
    Also, why even do this? Pulling the plug, sure. But dumping the body? Why rob Quin and everyone else who loved her from the closure of burying her?

    Dexter talking his way out of his killing saxon when he wasn't supposed to be there.
    ...and then they just let him go.

    Dexter surviving a hurricane.

    Lumberjacks, fucking lumberjacks.

    Fantastic show, but this entire final season never should have happened, didn't even feel like the same show.
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    The best part of the Hannah-taking-Harrison-to-the-hospital bit is that she calls Dexter, can't reach him, and then decides to take him herself, instead of calling Deb. Had the foresight to use Deb's name, but not call Deb to take care of it herself.

    I mean, who better than her unemployed (at that moment) aunt to take Harrison to the hospital? Certainly a better option than the wanted fugitive actively being hunted by the U.S. Marshall's Service. But of course, the shitty writers needed an excuse for Hannah to be seen so there could be that artificial pressure of getting out, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BEEN WALKING AROUND MIAMI UNRECOGNIZED FOR VIRTUALLY THE WHOLE SEASON. Guess pulling your hair back really does make you unrecognizable. Apparently that admitting nurse in the ER is a super sleuth as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BEEN WALKING AROUND MIAMI UNRECOGNIZED FOR VIRTUALLY THE WHOLE SEASON. Guess pulling your hair back really does make you unrecognizable.
    dexter wouldn't love her if she wasnt blonde. he has a type.
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    Finally got around to watching the last three episodes, and I was fairly disappointed. I came close to shedding a tear at Deb's death and Dexter's sailing into the hurricane, but I was too busy being pissed at how stupid some of the characters were acting and some of the plot holes, most of which have already been mentioned over the last few pages.

    A hope I've had for the ending for a while now was for everyone to figure out who and what Dexter was, but with him making a successful get away to a new life. And while he did get the new life part, it was pretty clear that it was more of an exile then a getaway.

    I don't think a single character got a happy ending. Dexter didn't, Debra died, all of Miami Metro Homocide lost two good friends, or even closer than friends for some characters. Harrison loses his dad. Astor and Cody have been consistently less plot relevant for a while now, but I'm sure they're upset. Hannah loses Dexter and is now a single mom of a kid that isn't hers. Sure she loves him and was intending to be his stepmom anyway, but becoming a single parent and sole guardian over a kid who you really haven't known that long, in a country you are new to probably isn't easy, even if you have money and seem to be living somewhat comfortably.

    Also, I'm sure a lot of the characters are wondering where Harrison is... and now it just occurred to me that unless Elway decides to keep quiet to avoid humiliation, he could probably reveal that he knows that Harrison is with Hannah, probably in Argentina.

    Favourite seasons were 1 and 2, followed by a slow yet steady decline. 3 and 4 were good, but not as much as the first two. 5-7 were all hit-and-miss. 8 was just disappointing, and mostly anti-climactic.

  7. #887
    I like how the studio was caught bullshitting in saying they always knew how Dexter would end and this was, apart from little details pretty much it while the showrunner of the first 4 seasons in Reddit AMA revealed what the original plan was and it was nothing like this.

    I am sorry I watched the last season. 6-7 wasn't anything to write home about (Even though I did enjoy the exploration of religion in one of them) but damn was the season 8 dead before it was even born.
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  8. #888
    All of that character development for Dexter thrown out the window. Harry literally disappeared because dex didn't need him anymore, and then he just decides that he's a monster that hurts everyone he loves. He seemed to finally have his shit together, Saxon was dead (kinda iffy that they just let him walk away but that's not the worst problem with the episode, whatever), he had a plan to leave the country, and then he fucks it all up and fakes his death.

    The core of Dexter's character was the question, "can i balance my normal life and my secret life?" I would have been okay if the answer was yes, or if the answer was no. But since Dex seems to think the answer was no, they could have had him either be discovered and arrested or have him die in some meaningful way. Instead he just runs away to become a miserable lumberjack for the rest of his life.

    wtf

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    I liked the idea of Dexter being caught, sentenced to death, and then he sees his victims in the attendance when he is put down, with Brian, Lila, Miguel, Arthur, Rita and Debra making the headlines.

    Maybe even Lumen.

    That would have been awesome.

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    I liked this TV Show so much! Amazing TV show!!!

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    Just started watching Season 1 on Sunday as a freind asked me why i don't watch it. To be honest not heard much about it. Started Sunday and just on Episode 12 of season 2 and OMG i love this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahsark View Post
    Just started watching Season 1 on Sunday as a freind asked me why i don't watch it. To be honest not heard much about it. Started Sunday and just on Episode 12 of season 2 and OMG i love this stuff.
    The earlier seasons are good indeed, definitely a series worth watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahsark View Post
    Just started watching Season 1 on Sunday as a freind asked me why i don't watch it. To be honest not heard much about it. Started Sunday and just on Episode 12 of season 2 and OMG i love this stuff.
    I really loved the first few seasons, but eventually, to me at least, it always felt forced in that there [U]always[U] had to be some Big Bad. In the first couple of seasons, you got to see Dexter work, stalk his victims, learn about them, and then kill them, and him trying to balance that with life. You almost never see that in the later episodes. It is just him trying to catch the Big Bad. The Ice Truck Killer and Trinity were both good in this case, but others... not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchaeus View Post
    I really loved the first few seasons, but eventually, to me at least, it always felt forced in that there [U]always[U] had to be some Big Bad. In the first couple of seasons, you got to see Dexter work, stalk his victims, learn about them, and then kill them, and him trying to balance that with life. You almost never see that in the later episodes. It is just him trying to catch the Big Bad. The Ice Truck Killer and Trinity were both good in this case, but others... not so much.
    I agree, but I like the way they dealt with each "big bad". Some were simply his enemies that he wanted to kill, some he needed more evidence, and some he got close to like a friend :P I know what you're saying, but I enjoyed some parts of it and it had good ideas that just weren't implemented properly. Shame the last few seasons went to shit, if the original producer/director stayed on and ended Dexter how he wanted to, combined with having a better experience with the latter seasons as a whole then it would be up there with some of the best series around instead of being viewed as a joke compared to the "big boys" and its former self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redmage View Post
    So much bad writing in the last few episodes:

    ......(lots of good points)

    Fantastic show, but this entire final season never should have happened, didn't even feel like the same show.
    Just finished the last season, so I don't think this qualifies as a necro. I wanted to watch the end of Breaking Bad first, but kept checking in here. Every week when ppl were in awe about BB, they were annoyed by the new Dexter episode - and I must say I understand that to a degree now. So..I even re-watched BB entirely again, then started with Dexter and watched all 8 seasons back to back to get into the mood.

    I agree with your summary mostly: "Fantastic show, but this entire final season......didn't even feel like the same show." . It should have happened. But this way?
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    I felt as if after Trinity they were basically out of fresh ideas. Everything after that seemed...I dunno, weird and forced and characters started acting out-of-character and the plot elements became repetitive and uninspired.

    But to their credit, everything up to Trinity was amazing. The Trinity season was probably one of the best TV seasons in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    But to their credit, everything up to Trinity was amazing.
    Are you forgetting season 3? Because that thing was a giant mess.
    I actually enjoyed season 5 with Lumen and the barrel girls. It was a step down from the previous season, sure, but still good. But maybe that's just because I really like Julia Stiles. Everything went downhill after that though
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    Have to say I liked season 7 and especially Ray Stevenson in it. Anyways - I usually try to imagine if a show stayed "the same" all the time, I guess more people would be turned off. Yes..I liked the Dexter from season 1 and 2 the best...but you want your characters to have an arc. That said, I personally didn't always like the choices that were made (who does?) - dexter kept trying to save to many people and kept putting them NOT on his table. After Trinity, it shouldn't have happened again with Professor Gellars student in season 6. Like another poster said: "Learn from your mistakes dumbass"
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    Isaak Sirko ( Ray Stevenson ) was a better antagonist than Trinity, in my opinion.

    I loved the guy.. and he put Dexter on his toes. For all of Trinity's ''horrifying'' presence, when Dexter got his hands on him he could've choked him to death. He posed no physical threat to Dexter.

    Isaak? He was chasing Dexter guns blazing, a true assassin.

    Probably why I liked Bane more than the Joker, too. I prefer antagonists to push the ''protagonist'' to his limits both physically and mentally.
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    I agree, I think Isaak was the better antagonist. I didn't think season 4 was as good as people make it out to be, it was good, but not the best Dexter season imo. I think season 1 and 2 were the best, it just felt like they had so many ideas and more depth to the writing, not to mention it didn't seem as farfetched and stale as the latter seasons. I enjoyed every season in their own way, but nowhere near enough for me to rewatch them. The ending alone puts me off watching it, terrible. Real big shame as I was saying because it had the potential to be one of the big greats.

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