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  1. #21
    How are Aion or Rift crafting games? These are standard MMORPGs
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Numeanor View Post
    ops, forgot to add it to my list. It was quite fun, but also quite laggy when I was trying it out. Also, I decided to stop playing after spending 2 days on looking for some mine. It seems that metal ores are so rare that they are all claimed already.
    And even if I got some mine I already had most skills so there was not much to do for me.
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by procne View Post
    ops, forgot to add it to my list. It was quite fun, but also quite laggy when I was trying it out. Also, I decided to stop playing after spending 2 days on looking for some mine. It seems that metal ores are so rare that they are all claimed already.
    And even if I got some mine I already had most skills so there was not much to do for me.
    There is new server now supporting 1000+ players without lag and world 4 has started. No more searching for mines, now u can build minehole anywhere then you just need to find metal vein and voila. I already have copper, tin and iron and I'm playing alone!

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Numeanor View Post
    There is new server now supporting 1000+ players without lag and world 4 has started. No more searching for mines, now u can build minehole anywhere then you just need to find metal vein and voila. I already have copper, tin and iron and I'm playing alone!
    Oh, that's very interesting. I think I'll give it a try then. Have they changed something with animals as well? I remember that killing a boar was impossible for me, as well as capturing those cow/sheep animals
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by procne View Post
    Oh, that's very interesting. I think I'll give it a try then. Have they changed something with animals as well? I remember that killing a boar was impossible for me, as well as capturing those cow/sheep animals
    Animals are pretty same, well they buffed them. Now you can't trap any animals with construction posts. Just make urself sling or bow if u have enough MM skill and shot from boat. If boar run away run after him and punch him.

  8. #28
    If it can be a singleplayer offline game try the Anno series. They are pretty nice have a great economy system and let you be a bit aggressive if you like to. I cant remember which one is the latest one though. Anno 1604 was the first one.

    Other than that, Garry's Mod from Steam is Building and Modding but its pretty much up to you what goes.

    If its just for building shit I recommend Cryengine Editor or Cryengine 2 Editor. The Source Editor Hammer is quite nice too.

    A great game for economy and quite a bit different from others is the X-series.
    X3 Terrain Conflict <3. There is a main story line with quite a few shooter aspects but you can choose to built up your space economy empire. You have to have fleets protecting your ships against spacepirates, you can built up complex spacestations to increase your output and destroy your competitors by war or economically.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by akuaku View Post
    If it can be a singleplayer offline game try the Anno series. They are pretty nice have a great economy system and let you be a bit aggressive if you like to. I cant remember which one is the latest one though. Anno 1604 was the first one.
    I did play all of them, starting from Anno 1602 up to 1404. With 1404 being the best imo. But you can't play it forever
    Other than that, Garry's Mod from Steam is Building and Modding but its pretty much up to you what goes.

    If its just for building shit I recommend Cryengine Editor or Cryengine 2 Editor. The Source Editor Hammer is quite nice too.
    Those seem more like level editors than actual games? Well, I'm not really into building just for the sake of putting some houses and looks. I like building economy and creating "useful" stuff. Like building foundry to smelt metals or sawmill to cut boards, but building home and decorating it with flowers is just boring
    A great game for economy and quite a bit different from others is the X-series.
    X3 Terrain Conflict <3. There is a main story line with quite a few shooter aspects but you can choose to built up your space economy empire. You have to have fleets protecting your ships against spacepirates, you can built up complex spacestations to increase your output and destroy your competitors by war or economically.
    After a brief read on various webpages it looks like a tribute to privateer series. May be interesting indeed. Thanks
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

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    EVE Online?

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    So I tried X3. Game is quite tedious, generic and boring. Most time is spent on autopilot flying from one point to another. Combat looks quite binary - destroy enemy within 5 secs or he destroys you.

    Creators had great series of privateer and descent freespace to take example from but they kinda failed

    I tried Haven and hearth again, but it's still laggy (especially in the evenings) and it seems that it got some extra load of thieves since I played last time
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by procne View Post
    It looks like it might be promising if the crafting / building aspect is good enough. Can you say something more about it? I hope crafting is not limited to "make better armor / weapon". I have it in WoW...

    Edit: Looks interesting, but there is no way I am paying 30 euro for completely unknown game... It's weird that so "unique" game doesn't offer any trial accounts, 6 months after release. If it is so much different than other MMOs that it's impossible to compare it to anything, how are potential players supposed to know what kind of game it is...
    MO is decent now, it had a horrible launch as most sandbox MMO's but the features are starting to shape up now.
    Crafting is probably one of the best parts of the game because there's so many variables in crafing depending on what mats you use etc.
    The crafting section on mortalwiki is probably the best place to look to fully grasp the crafting system.

    Xsyon might also fit you but you won't get it for free, it's releasing in like a week and it's a good sandbox, downsides being that there's very very few developers working on it and the combat is terrible right now (they're looking into revamping the combat system into something similar to mount & blade but it's probably gonna take a while).
    But the crafting/gathering/terraforming is probably among the best you'll find in a sandbox now, don't try it if you're impatient and demand tooltips/being spoonfed everything though because then you'll be frustrated

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Ighox View Post
    MO is decent now, it had a horrible launch as most sandbox MMO's but the features are starting to shape up now.
    Crafting is probably one of the best parts of the game because there's so many variables in crafing depending on what mats you use etc.
    The crafting section on mortalwiki is probably the best place to look to fully grasp the crafting system.

    Xsyon might also fit you but you won't get it for free, it's releasing in like a week and it's a good sandbox, downsides being that there's very very few developers working on it and the combat is terrible right now (they're looking into revamping the combat system into something similar to mount & blade but it's probably gonna take a while).
    But the crafting/gathering/terraforming is probably among the best you'll find in a sandbox now, don't try it if you're impatient and demand tooltips/being spoonfed everything though because then you'll be frustrated
    I wanted to try Mortal, but there is no free trial option and I'm not paying that much for a totally unknown game. Same with Xsyon.
    I can deal with no tooltips and I am patient enough. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to play Wurm, Haven and hearth, dwarf fortress or tale in the desert ^^
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

  14. #34
    Darkfall Online is the only sandbox I can think of right now with a free trial, apart from Eve.
    But the crafting/building there is so shit that you better stay far away if you expect a good crafting system

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by levitate View Post
    EVE Online?
    I'm playing the Eve trial right now as we speak. Its a pretty fun game with the learning curve. Only thing I hate, is that it takes 20 minutes to get to your destination. I'm on autopilot and in the in-game browser because its boring warping to my destination.

  16. #36
    Hey guys! Sorry for the late reply =) I got hooked on playing Aika Global that's why I only replid after a long while =) There's also crafting in Aika Global and it's quite fun! It's like you're playing in a casino, the lottery thing or the slot machines hehehe =) And also the PVP is quite exciting and fun! =)

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    Not so much the third game but I definitely recommend Roller Coaster Tycoon 2. Ive spent many many hours making costume terrain and parks in there and its just a classic but really fun building game. I didn't like the third game to much which moved to 3D but I will always vouch for the 2nd.

  18. #38
    Another couple of MMOs you can check out is Ryzom and Istaria.

    Both are "Freemium" games - you can DL and play for free, with restrictions, or pay a sub.

    Ryzom had the better crafting system of the two, however I found the people in Istaria to be far more friendly. However, Istaria has some SERIOUSLY outdated graphics (like, EQ1 launch-era graphics). If you can get past that, you'll be in for a treat. The free account lets you play only as Human, and you cannot own a plot of land. The sub opens up all the races (including dragon!) and lets you own a plot of land, upon which you can build whatever you please. If you roll a dragon, you can build and design your own lair to your heart's content. It's a very open-ended game, with a very nice crafting system. Far from streamlined, but lots of depth.

    Ryzom, as I said earlier, has the better crafting system of the two. It was released the same year as WoW (poor game hence why you probably haven't heard of it lol). Very neat, incredibly indepth gathering and crafting system. It's free to DL and free to play, however you can only get your skills to a max of 150. Paid sub let's you get the max potential skill level of 300. That, as far as I remember is the ONLY difference between free and sub. As a note for Ryzom - don't let the intro area confuse you. While it's very quest-driven, once you leave, it's very, very, very open-ended. Also, on off hours, the world can be very very dead. :/

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    Pharaoh. very fun game kinda old now

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    Bah, people are confused by the term "crafting game"
    Dunno how to explain it. If you can craft armor or weapon it doesn't mean it's a crafting game yet. WoW is not a crafting game, Ryzom is not a crafting game, Baldur's Gate is not a crafting game. Those are standard RPG games (yes, I played Ryzom).

    Crafting game is all about crafting and building. You start with nothing, search for and collect raw materials, craft tools, construct buildings and lots of different goods. If it's still not clear I suggest trying out Stranded 2. Wurm online, Hearth & Haven, Tale in the Desert would be next in line although they are more complicated than Stranded.


    Also, I played Roller Coaster 1 - was great. I didn't like second part that much, it seemed the same, only with more decorations. Third game seems to give player most freedom and possibilites.

    Pharaoh, along with other games from this series (Caesar, Zeus, Emperor) are more or less standard city builders, like simcity.
    I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.

    I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.

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