Keyboard Turners Anonymous

[funkyfloyd]

hello, my name is Funky and im a keyboard turner.

i need your help.
part of the reason ive never really trained myself to use keybinds is my setup and partly because in some respects i dont 'get it'.
heres my keyboard and mouse: (yes, that really is my keyboard)



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as you can see i dont use a 'real' mouse by necessity, its a trackball - thats not going to change btw, work with it
what i need from you is a working keybind group that utilizes the keys within the red square in the image.

ok, the nitty gritty:

how exactly does one play with the keyboard and not clicking??
i get using spells via the keyboard and not clicking the buttons and use the mouse to move, but how do i strafe? which is probably 95% of my movement.
another reason i dont use keybinds is finger placement. when i put my fingers on the up/down etc keys on the keyboard i KNOW where my fingers are by touch. at no point do i have to glance down to see if my fingers are in the correct place. if i try to use WASD i inevitably mess up and do the button mash dance because my fingers are in the wrong place- if you have a solution to this, please share.

i need constructive information i can use, i can work with and learn from.
i dont need elitist flaming and l2p comments, if thats all you have for me them gtfo.

[Ltsmash]

Start by binding WASD keys for movement and using 1 - 5 and F1 - F6 for abilities. add alt and ctrl for modifiers (example. fireball of doom would be Ctrl-1)

also get used to doing most of your movement with a mouse. hold both buttons to move and use the mouse to turn, this frees up your left hand to press buttons.

[Wrax]

Try to use wasd since there is more keys closer, so you can bind those keys.

Like for example, close to wasd there is f,g,c,v,x,z,<,q,e, tab and $ + f1-f5

Then you can do the same ones, while holding shift/ctrl/alt.

When you use arrow keys you don't really got keys close.

By not clicking = not using mouse to click spells, but click "1" and so on

[rzy]

Start by binding WASD keys for movement and using 1 - 5 and F1 - F6 for abilities. add alt and ctrl for modifiers (example. fireball of doom would be Ctrl-1)

also get used to doing most of your movement with a mouse. hold both buttons to move and use the mouse to turn, this frees up your left hand to press buttons.

This really, playing with arrow keys is even less productive than keyturning with WASD imo

[funkyfloyd]

Start by binding WASD keys for movement and using 1 - 5 and F1 - F6 for abilities. add alt and ctrl for modifiers (example. fireball of doom would be Ctrl-1)

also get used to doing most of your movement with a mouse. hold both buttons to move and use the mouse to turn, this frees up your left hand to press buttons.

sigh...please work with the info ive given. i dont WANT to use wasd, i dont WANT to use the function keys.

[Pikapika]

sigh...please work with the info ive given. i dont WANT to use wasd, i dont WANT to use the function keys.

Then you don't WANT to play optimally.

[Deleted]

If you really insist on using that red square, you could probably use numpad keys for movement:
So:

num4: Strafe left
num6: Strafe right
num8: Move forward
num5: Move backwards

Turning is only done with right mouse button down
then you have the entire numpad for abilities, and the further to the left buttons for use with rarely-used spells (such as long cooldowns etc).

[A Day to Remember]

Well, he is obvioiusly left handed so WASD arent going to work for him.

IMO, use (P, L, ; and ') as your movement keys, get away from the arrows. That opens up a broad range of keys that are well within the range of a single hand. then for instance u can do Shift+ = for another spell, and Alt+ =, Control+ = so on and so fourth.

[Ltsmash]

sigh...please work with the info ive given. i dont WANT to use wasd, i dont WANT to use the function keys.

then continue reaching 4 inches up to press a button. using the arrow keys gives you little to no access to important buttons. but hey. some people like to make things as hard on themselves as possible.

@A Day to Remember im left handed WSAD works great.

[Deleted]

And, guys, you know, you shouldn't force your way of playing onto somebody. I do not want to see any more posts yelling "but you HAVE to use wasd". He seems to realize it's sub-optimal. We can still find a solution for his question.

[Nycgangsta]

I just unbound my turn keys. there not necessary, it takes a few days to get used to but its impossible to play otherwise after those days. I have W as forward and A and D as Strafe Left and Strafe right, Q and E are left unbound for skills (E is my spam button on all my characters, ie Cobra Shot)

[Riboe]

Yeah.. If you really insist on using nothing but the buttons within that red square (and thus limiting yourself) then I guess Treeston nailed it.
It's very far from being optimal, but it's the best if you do not want to change.

Btw, how come you began using the arrow keys instead of the default WASD keys? :O

[funkyfloyd]

And, guys, you know, you shouldn't force your way of playing onto somebody. I do not want to see any more posts yelling "but you HAVE to use wasd". He seems to realize it's sub-optimal. We can still find a solution for his question.

this. i need to work within my comfort zone, if i try to work within your comfort zone i WILL give up.

---------- Post added 2011-01-21 at 10:29 PM ----------

Yeah.. If you really insist on using nothing but the buttons within that red square (and thus limiting yourself) then I guess Treeston nailed it.
It's very far from being optimal, but it's the best if you do not want to change.

Btw, how come you began using the arrow keys instead of the default WASD keys? :O

because of the touch aspect, with my left hand on WASD i cant tell purely by feel where my fingers are. those four keys could be anywhere on the keyboard, with the arrow keys i can tell exactly whats on the left side (nothing) and whats on the right side (nothing) i know where my fingers are.

[theonly]

If your using arrow keys bind your 1-0 to spells with num lock as a mod (if you dont mind having to hit that) plus you have the rest of the buttons of /*-+ ECT

(15 spells without num lock as a mod) you can also bind other spells to insert home and page up.

It shouldn't be that hard. As stated though it will be sub par compared to the WSAD ways but it should work and if you dont mind (since they are in the red square) use your shift and ctrl as modifiers. (if you dont know how I'd suggest looking at http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...phering-Macros )

Honestly hope i could help you have lots of options. As for moving as well another idea i had. Use both mouse buttons to move and then mouse turn if you can use your middle finger to move the ball (i have no idea how you hold a mouse like that)

[Kellytm3]

go buy a Razer Naga mouse...problem solved

[Deleted]

Hm, most keyboards have a little "nub" on the F key. You might want to attempt using ESDF for movement instead of WASD. If your index finger is on the nub, your hand is positioned correctly.

[Deleted]

sigh...please work with the info ive given. i dont WANT to use wasd, i dont WANT to use the function keys.

The thing is, there arent enough keys comfortably close to the arrow buttons to key bind everything. It is what it is, unless you use the 4 buttons closest and have modifier after modifier, you may as well just stick to clicking if you dont want to use wasd

[Curoch]

Yeah, use WASD or you'll be a baddie forever.

Don't name call. I don't want to have to hand out any bans in this thread.
~ Treeston

[Radak]

because of the touch aspect, with my left hand on WASD i cant tell purely by feel where my fingers are. those four keys could be anywhere on the keyboard, with the arrow keys i can tell exactly whats on the left side (nothing) and whats on the right side (nothing) i know where my fingers are.

If you prefer to feel where you hand is you can also try using ESDF instead of WASD. The reason I suggest this is because there is a little bar of the F button so you can feel where if you are in the correct place without looking at your hand. (RDFG would also work that way but makes it harder to reach shif, crtl and alt)

Edit: Damn you Treeston for being faster.

[Deleted]

I use WASD and 1-4, Shift 1-4. Then f, g, r, v, t, c, and shift modifiers of each. Shift q, w, e, a, s, and d if necessary. Then Shift + tab, and a few mouse buttons with modifiers.