Which is the easier raid to start with in cata?

[Souleater]

my guild has been dead since a few weeks of cata and in a attempt to help it i'm gathering information about raiding
I would like to know which raid is the easier of the three?

[mordale]

basically the first bosses of eatch of the raids are easy on normal 10/25man.
magmaw, omnitron, council of the 4 winds, and halfus.
after that i would say BWD is easier until you get to nef.

[4KhazModan]

basically the first bosses of eatch of the raids are easy on normal 10/25man.
magmaw, omnitron, council of the 4 winds, and halfus.

I would rank Conclave after Halfus, but other than that, this pretty much sums it up. Maloriak after that for sure.

[Deleted]

It's not so much one Raid being easier than the others, it's the bosses. You'll end up hopping between Blackwing Descent and Bastion of Twilight at first as they have the easiest three bosses: Magmaw, Omnotron and Halfus. Depending on your group, you'll find one of these the easiest.

[Manormyth]

Its a mix. You cant just say ok lets clear bwd then we will be set for bot. Or other way around. with bwd not really gated to much you can have your pick.

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Our guilds very first ever cata raid fight was a one shot of halfus. If your just getting your feet wet start their then head to bwd. imo

[Deleted]

Thought I'd use this thread. After Halfus, Omnotron and Magmaw, roughly what order are they in terms of difficulty?
Conclave > Maloriak > ???

[Ponium]

our guild did something like Halfus, Magmaw, Omnitron first, then the 2 dragons, Maloriak and Atramedes, then Ascendant council and Chimearon.

We put off throne for awhile since we wanted to focus on hem, but Conclave is around the level of the first three I'de say.

[Crush]

Nefarion, Al'akir, Cho'gal = Hard
Omitron, Halfus, magmaw and throne princes = easy with a spice of medium
Rest is lala

Now Sinestra is still mad as I cheated on her with alexstrasza and Ysera ...... bitch tried to burn me

[Suikoden]

BoT for sure.

[Resentful]

Go with BoT for sure

[Deleted]

my guild has been dead since a few weeks of cata and in a attempt to help it i'm gathering information about raiding
I would like to know which raid is the easier of the three?

At the risk of sounding snotty, your guild died ~6 months ago and this poll was the best you could come up with?

So I don't feel like a total asshat, check http://www.wowprogress.com/ and scroll down to the bottom, you can see how many guilds have killed which bosses. You can also filter (in the middle) the results into 25m, 10m or both.

25m more guilds have killed the first 2 in BWD than BoT (or ToT4W)
10m same
combined same

Which proves I'm a clueless cretin as I voted for BoT . Assuming you were asking from a guild raiding point of view, not a pugging point of view.

[Zoma]

After those first 4, my guild went Maloriak > V&T > AC > Atra > Chim > Cho > Nef > Al'akir

Even though we did BoT first, our BWD progression went faster. Wouldn't recommend To4W at all.

[Kaneiac]

Normal, my comprehensive list is... (ASSUMING you are 10 man)

Halfus
Magmaw
Omnitron
Conclave of Wind
Atramedes
Chimaeron
Maloriak
Valiona & Theralion
Ascendant Council
Al'akir
Cho'gall
Nefarian

Swap a few, but that's generally what I consider the "order".

No 1 place is "easier" but overall (not including Nefarian) I found BWD much easier.

[Deleted]

Just choose one out of:

Magmaw (BWD)
Omnotron (BWD)
Halfus (BoT)
Conclave of Winds (TotFW)

for your first boss. Halfus is the easiest with correct drakes, but the drake setup varies. It's not really hard with a bad drake setup either so if your raid isn't herp derp and is 353 geared it should be a piece of cake regardless. Omnotron requires people to be atleast half-awake. Magmaw requires err... some skills from healers and Conclave needs some coordination. Choose what you believe suits your raid the best.

After those four pretty much all of the other bosses available to you except Al'akir are roughly equally hard. Though if you aren't too bad and can kill one of those fast, there's no reason to switch instance: just go ahead and try the next boss.

Chimaeron takes more from healers and dps than any other boss while Atramedes is all about people not being retarded. Maloriak and Valiona & Theralion are pretty much a balance between those two.

Ascendant Council after that is not really a hard fight. Obvious mechanics that need to be avoided with plenty of warning and a dps check at the end. It is harder than Chimaeron/Maloriak/Atramedes/Valiona & Theralion, but not much harder. You could just go here directly after V&T instead of switching instance if you happen to be there anyway.

For end bosses Al'akir and Cho'gall are both equally easy. Many claim that Al'akir is harder, but nah. Still, if you have good dps and/or good ranged aoe you'll probably want to try Cho'gall. Al'akir can be done with pretty much any setup that has 1 tank and 3 (doable with 2, I know, but 3 is standard) healers without problems.

Nefarian is by far the hardest normal boss of this tier and I'd claim it can be harder or equally challenging as some of the easiest heroic modes (Halfus, Atramedes)


And to actually answer the OP's question: Apart from Nefarian BWD is slightly easier than BoT without Cho'gall.

[Duilliath]

10 or 25?

At any rate, all of them are pretty easy in Normal mode. Might struggle a bit with the end bosses, but that's about it.

[eternalwhitemoon]

Now Sinestra is still mad as I cheated on her with alexstrasza and Ysera ...... bitch tried to burn me

I definitely giggled at this.

OT: Like the others said, do a little bit of each. If I recall, we did Halfus, then Conclave, then V+T, then Magmaw/Omnotron, then went from there. It kept things from feeling repetitive by going to each raid a little bit at a time (instead of being like ugh, not BWD again ).

[twinkleblur]

honestly?halfus is so tank and spank i still dont see why people dont go here 1st. alot of people seem to start with BWD..i guess its the lure of nefarian.

[Korie]

Halfus>Magmaw>omno>V&T(or atram)>Atram(or V&T>chim>maloriak>conclave>BoT council>Cho'gall>Al'akir>Nef, thats how I did it back in the "good ol' time"

[Deleted]

Halfus is the easiest of all the T11 bosses.

[Druiman]

BoT, at least for the first two bosses. You could probably get the first five out of BoT and BWD in a week, they're pretty faceroll now.