Breaking news, it turns out Humans are mammals, like cats and dogs. A college student who wishes to remain anonymous says "We're all animals, I'm of the party kind." Opposition opposes obviously unoriginal obstruction of dog slapping.
"Sentience" comes with a bunch of things like morality, ethics, etc. I eat meat, I understand that if we didn't eat meat there would be no reason for us to have cows, pigs and such except as pets, wich might not be as popular as a kitten or puppy. But I find something wrong in killing animals so you have more money to spend on getting more animals that you can kill so you can save even more money etcetera etcetera.
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I rather be called a gay blood elf and get the girls, than be a straight worgen and only get my wolf.
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...teasAshals.jpg <-- this is how I chill.
Thanks for taking what I say out of context though. My point is that dogs are not humans. This is like comparing apples to peanuts.
I'm sorry, but I just couldn't resist.
This Kaylynn person's posts, from my experience, tend to be full of extraordinary amounts of fail. Specifically, it would seem, when it comes to discussions on government.
Though, after reading this, I'm not surprised. Skim through her post history for yourself if you want a chuckle or to make your brain hurt. I'm sure you'll find some genuinely absurd proclamations.
OT: You'll certainly need more than some information from ONE source on the internet for anyone to take you remotely seriously.
This sounds all like I'm going "oh if you kill an animal death to you". The reality is that most people are too uneducated to know what they are talking about.
We as suposedly rational beeings have several examples of people beating the crap out of animals just because they find it fun. you even have people that consider it a sport.
So yeah the diference is huge, from survival to plain stupidity disguised as "fun" and "sport".
What is the difference to you between a dog and a human? It may seem basic, but please try to answer it.
What will I do with that? If you choose to continue I will use your own words to prove you are wrong. It's just a little talent I have. What's more I will use nothing more than logic, mathematics, your own words, and a light sprinkling of philosophy to do it.
Twizzlers...you are so freaking right man. Mmm apples and peanuts. I want my coffee.Both of which have the right to be delicious.
While I understand your view point, I will give you an example of how that can go wrong. That happened here recently. Now I don't give out too much personal information, but my family is heavily into law enforcement. We also live in the south. Anyway they hit an animal that belonged to the deputy Sheriff. The guy pulled over the car, and beat him to a pulp. We all watched. My official statement "the deputy pulled him over, he started trying to hit the deputy. The deputy fought back to try and subdue him". Why did I say that? It's simple if you are going to act like less than a human, you will get treated that way. The law of nature is the strongest get what they want. The deputy was stronger, so he got what he wanted. If I offended anyone by stating this, my apologies. I just think the guy got what he deserved.Personally if I'm driving along and see an animal run in front of my car, I'm not going to swerve or try to avoid it. I might hit another car, or a kid, or whatever and no animal is worth a human life. If someone losing control of their pet and it runs in front of me it is dead plain and simple. If you want to own pets, learn to care for them properly.
Moral of the story? Check the name of the street, if it's the same as the name on the mailboxes you better be damn careful how fast you drive.
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But giving them rights would mean any killing of an animal would be taking away their right to life. You would commit murder/"animalslaughter"? many times a day.
As for PETA, I think they're a bit on the insane side. Nature allows and even depends on species exploiting lesser ones. We've just taken that a step further, with things like farms and medical research.
I do think that it's part of being human to be merciful, and as such we should endeavour to make sure their deaths are painless, and their lives up until slaughter comfortable. In other words, while I think PETA is a joke, I still hate things such as battery farms, and unscrupolous slaughterhouses.
As for medical research, that's justified by survival. It's a fair trade to make, in my opinion, the experimentation on a few lab rats in the hunt for a cure for cancer. I'd love for someone who's against it to go up to someone who's been cured by medicine that was tested on animals, and tell them they have no right to be alive right now, and that the rats that were experimented on deserve to live more.
"The truth, my goal."
However, there are thousands more. Also, lot's of useful testing can be completed quickly on the common fruitfly, because of how amazingly similar they are to humans http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0315201633.htm
In my bio-mechanics course I attended several guest lectures, and nearly all research performed by engineers in the field of bio-mechanics is done on lab rats. For instance, lab rats are genetically altered to be born with a specific disorder, so that engineers can test a machine that diagnoses that disorder by studying the gait of the affected rats (this disorder affects motor control) with various force plates and cameras. Very cool stuff, very important research, conducted on animals.
EDIT: Many of these are not medicinal examples I realize, but you can't just pan animal testing because of a different body chemistry. It IS very useful to medicine.
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Sure, they're both vehicles (just like Humans and dogs are both mammals), they both have wheels (Humans and dogs have lungs), they both...
You get the picture.
You can find comparisons all day between the two, but they're still not the same. This isn't a moral discussion, this is just simple reality. A dog is not a Human. A Human is not a member of the canida family.
Apples to peanuts...
This does not mean that you can treat a dog like sh*t though.