This is just blizzards way of shutting up the baddies
This is just blizzards way of shutting up the baddies
this just means that failboats can stand in fire even longer before they die.
Guess we need to expect to see ''ICC Buffs'' in about virtually everything PvE-wise. Ugh, good thing idc about PvE anymore..
Another example of WoW watering down a good thing.
Really doesn't effect any one, not that big of a deal.
Dumb people will stand in the fire, my Healer friend still will not heal them while they stand in the fire, and they will still die due standing in the fire.
Him "Why did I die"
Her "you stood in the fire"
Him "Why didn't you heal me"
Her "Your a waste of mana"
It amazes me that so many still believe Blizz when they say things like they won't nerf dungeons, classes, bosses raids etc when they consistently do the complete opposite. In fact, it's quite easy now to predict changes in upcoming patches: just assume the opposite of what the blues are writing and you will be very close to the actual patch notes. It's become that bad.
What gets me is people are still having troubles with heroics in the first place. Sure, they were hard the first week or two, but I usually pug heroics on my alts and 9 out 10 times we get through with maybe a wipe or two.
And people saying this makes them completely faceroll...my guild who is heroic/BoE'd out is already AoEing most heroic trash.
Most of all, stop trying to make it out to be a casual vs. hardcore issue. It's not. This is simply a fix for the bads. Like I've said, if you're failing in heroics it doesn't necessarily mean you are a bad, it just means the majority of your group is. This 15% buff won't suddenly make the bads stop being bad. If you can't pug heroics now, you won't find much more success with a 15% buff.
I once had a character named "Clamslam" but Blizzard deemed it inappropriate.Retired from WoW: February 19, 2011. It was fun Blizz.
Good change! Hate running pugs but it's necessary for gearing. Hopefully 15% is enough to get some dungeons completed.
well the 15% is nice in pugs I don't know why people are complaining.
higher chances of faster heroics and less wipes.
of course 15% will make everything go faceroll
This, all this, for all the elitest dummies who can't stand a nerf to something that shouldn't even affect them they can quit, they are the minority blizzard dosn't work for them nor even care for them. As long as the majority of normal non-basement dwellers are paying the flat rate per month it doesn't matter to them if you are downing raid bosses or not. Just because some nerd justifies his life by playing so much that they can steamroll heroics doesn't mean they are anything special top blizz.
Skimming through the pages here, it seems many of you can't read properly and just qq about nerfs making you feel less elite. If you want the heroics to be still as challenging just go with your friends or guildies! If you read again, this nerf (or buff, however you wanna see it) only affect pugs from the lfd option. For me, pugs including random battlegrounds aren't where most of the challenges come from. Heroic raids and rated bgs or arenas is where those are at. Most of the good players only need to do one heroic per day anyway and like some said before me, a 15% increase in dps, hp and healing won't make that much difference in terms of handling the mechanics that can one shot you. Seriously, there's nothing to qq about, blizzard has nicely managed to keep the challenge (by not pugging) and also making pugs a bit less stressful at the same time.
I love the people bitching about casuals or "wrath babies" - if you're so bloody awesome, go with a guild group or better yet, go do some raiding and discover your eliteness, stop doing heroics if you're so bloody awesome.
If people are finding certain content difficult with pugs, thats their issue and not yours, should you really care if they are sporting heroic gear? no....because if you're so great, you're already in tier 11+.
I see sarcasm fails to deliver with you.
Am I the only who finds it incredibly ridiculous that the difference between hardcore and casual now is getting past heroic 5 mans? I mean really? My guild raids maybe 3 or 4 hours a week and is killing raid bosses. Apparently I'm an uber hardcore.
I once had a character named "Clamslam" but Blizzard deemed it inappropriate.Retired from WoW: February 19, 2011. It was fun Blizz.
I'm happy with those change, cant wait.
Very good changes IMO. I'm tired of people saying "This stuff is already easy, blizz is gay for nerfing it, blah, blah, blah" so they can come off looking like some bad ass who is awesome at the game and everyone else just sucks and its not their fault pugs fail. Yeah, I could probably solo heroics too if I had 4 other copies of me. But I don't and we have to play with people who may just not be that good at the game. The point is, as it stands PVE content feels like its moving like a snail because of the difficulty which has deterred a lot of people from pugging or even playing at all. 45 minute queue times for a heroic as a DPS? Yes, there is a problem with that. To me, running dungeons and raid content is such a chore to do, since I would rather just PVP anyway, why do it at all...so I don't. Maybe now I might actually start, even just to help out guildies. Stop trying to wave your E-peen's around and think of what would actually help the game.
Last edited by Zemnexx; 2011-02-05 at 01:15 AM.