Rift has the most awesome character customization. Yet I see people making humans that... all look the same.
I like how rift looks and I LOVE the soul system.
But the game so far is so horribly stiff, serious and cliché that it hurts. I don't hate the game. I just think it's like all the other mmo's, just a little more work put into it. Won't pay for it ever unless the lore gets better. Or if they might just let one inch of comic relief into it that can make us laugh.
I don't think Rift will kill WoW. The only thing that's going to kill WoW is what killed Ultima Online and Everquest: Arrogant developers obstinately cramming stale, bad ideas down players throats. Eventually every successful MMO stagnates, and developers are too stubborn and high on themselves to admit it until 3 years after it goes stagnant. Then players slowly begin to say "you know what, this is stupid, we've been doing the same thing for years." Then they move on slowly. The timing of Rift is particularly fortuitous because it comes right as that's beginning to happen with WoW. A vocal minority, myself included, is already saying "okay, screw it, let's see what else is out there". But that doesn't make it *the* WoW killer.
On the other hand, I like Rift more because I have more to do in that game. In WoW, my main is done with heroics, my guild raids 9 hours a week, I can't PVP competitively because I'm a DPS Shaman whose spec gets treated like dirt by developers (unless I glue myself to an Unholy DK or Frost Mage, which of course they adore, and which I can't find any of who aren't on a 3s team). The game just isn't fun for me anymore. So I'm looking at Rift not as a WoW killer, but because I won't run into the same problems.
Look at class balance as an example. I can't possible have the "revolving fotm/except shamans, screw those guys" problems that I had in this game, because you can change your class in seconds. Problem solved, just like that.
So, Rift now offers me more to do AND a near guarantee that I won't run into the worst of the problems that I saw in WoW. Why shouldn't I switch?
Last edited by Vulcanasm; 2011-02-10 at 12:37 AM.
The plural of anecdote is not "data". It's "Bayesian inference".
To many (unfortunately), WoW = 1st MMO ever, thus, everything other MMO out there ripped off WoW....even if it was released years before WoW...
I especially love the people claiming the total game looks like WoW. These people never played another MMO at all. When I first saw RIFT's graphics, my first thought was, "Wow, it's as if the graphics of LoTR Online and WAR online mated and had an MMO baby...".
And I am pleased to tell you insaneperson, that the avid gamers that will eventually leave WoW for another great MMO, will not miss you either, nor your cry baby, need to have all their gear just handed to them friends. Because I am sick and tired of your little boyfriends re-rolling, getting max level, and in 2 weeks they have good enough gear to raid with the people that have been raiding since the xpac came out. You think WoW is so great, you are a poorly misinformed person, and you wouldnt know a real game if it bit you in the
Last edited by Meudi; 2011-02-10 at 04:18 AM.
I don't understand the hate at all. If (and I said IF) Rift happened to take like 3 million subscribers from WoW, the first response from WoW would be to make the game better. There is zero downside for WoW if Rift is actually successful. It's just because this is the internet and people like getting off by saying stupid stuff like "See you in a month" instead of actually using their brain.
I once had a character named "Clamslam" but Blizzard deemed it inappropriate.Retired from WoW: February 19, 2011. It was fun Blizz.
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I will say this though, you see it in every single MMO, if enough people grow the balls to leave WoW, you will see your precious game become free to play per month. No other game has charged their customers to play as long as WoW has. And the only reason they still get away with it, is because people are still stupid enough to keep paying them to play it. If everyone would stop playing it for 2-3 months, it would be free.
Last edited by Meudi; 2011-02-10 at 04:27 AM.
Ok news flash for all you WoWtards. "IT DID NOT COME OUT FIRST!!" WoW is the first to establish itself very well in the sense that it has 12 million people playing it, or is that 1.2 million people with 10 toons, whatever. WoW is dying, it sux ballz simply for the fact that nothing is new with it. Oh wow, look an expansion that cost 50 bux, and i get, oh, 5 more lvls and oh, nothing new except that azeroth has chasms and has flooded. Can't wait to grind for 5 lvl's and then do the same raid over and overt and over again while I sit in one of the cities doing nothing except, waiting. Don't get me wrong, i was duped into buying the expansion with high hopes that something new and exciting would have come along, but alas, all that happened was the reinvented old lvl 60 raids, good job. Now for Rift, first off all you WoWtards, it's in "BETA" nothing groundbreaking has been established yet, and look at WoW back in beta, Amiga had better graphics ffs. Anyways, the whole talent system, while nothing groundbreaking, it is new and unique. As for lore, maybe stay off the WoW hates rifts sites and go to the main Rift website and read about it. Graphically, yes blows WoW out of the water and for the asshats who are complaining that they can't run it on their p4's, maybe it's time to upgrade. Oh wait, you need a job to be able to buy a new computer. Anyways, kudos to Blizzard for making a game as amazing as it was. Hope the best for them in the future with D3.
I've been playing WoW off and on for the past five years or so, and have also been participating in the past two Rift betas.
As I said to my husband last night, it's biggest problem is that it is too WoW-like, while trying desperately to pretend that it isn't. It makes it worse when they keep trying to steal WoW players by toting "You aren't in Azeroth any more", but aren't really offering anything significantly different.
The graphics are absolutely stunning, and for that reason I'd totally watch Rift the Movie, but I don't exactly see myself cancelling my WoW subscription and taking up with Rift suddenly. If I was bored with WoW...why would I play an exact replica? That makes no sense..
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I'm well aware that WoW wasn't the first MMORPG, but that fact in and of itself doesn't mean that Rift is actually new and different. It's a beautiful game [with the ugliest pigs I've ever seen in my life], but that's all I can really give it.
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Then again, maybe "srs" MMO gamers are what Trion is looking for. Y'know, the kind of people who got massively irritated by having little hearts randomly placed over their heads during the WoW V-day event, or the kind who find throwing pumpkins on people's heads or leather balls into people's packs terribly annoying.
If so, then Trion can have them! I'd rather hang out with fun folks, online or off, than terribly serious ones.
Last edited by Lady Tam; 2011-02-16 at 05:02 PM.
If you don't want to spend your money on it, then fine, but could we do without the insults? Please? It's getting ridiculous.
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This irritation is further exacerbated by the "You are not in Azeroth any more" ad campaign, when it so clearly and closely resembles WoW.
Did someone here already say that it feels like World of Warcraft 2.0? I think they did, and that's an accurate description. Not bad, and a decent revamp...but let's call it what it is. Don't dress up a tree and pretend it's a man.
Played in beta 4 and i was tempted to leave until one day i was playing and realized the lore was just to plain...its not strong enough to even compete with WoWs lore.
Don't get me wrong it was fun for the first few days. It brings nothing new.....Heres to hoping Guild Wars 2 changes MMOs for ever.