A Question to those who QQ?

[Deleted]

An easy way to explain my views are (in simple terms, based on runescape)

Melee > Range > Mage > Melee

in an image it looks like a triangle

I felt this system worked, and is how pvp should be in an mmo

[procne]

An easy way to explain my views are (in simple terms, based on runescape)

Melee > Range > Mage > Melee

in an image it looks like a triangle

I felt this system worked, and is how pvp should be in an mmo

It's more like (at least should be)
skilled > not skilled

[Alfador]

One more thing, WW2 was imbalanced indeed! That's why the Germans stopped playing.
If things are imbalanced, that means there will be a winner. WoW can't have a winner :P

I hear they wiped on a wave defense fight. Not enough tanks.

Alfdor, i think you not getting what i am not saying, but i am not going to argue about it, as i dont wish to give anybody a reason to report me.

Oh I get what you're saying, and classes will never all be on equal footing with every other class. It's impractical and illogical to have it be so. The entire point of team oriented PvP is to bring classes that are specialists in certain areas and cover eachothers' weak spots.

[schwarzkopf]

anyway, back on topic, the current system, isn't broken, broken applies when something doesn't work AT ALL,

My car only works one in 10 times I try and use it, my computer maybe 1 in 20 times... I suppose I should be happy they both work.

Again - FACT, the current system IS broken, if you don't acknowledge that - then I think your QQ is in the wrong forum.

The question isn't if it is broken, the question is - how is it broken.

[Flummox]

If I'm playing a game of chess with my friend (and subsequently losing, because I'm horrible at chess), we have the same amount of pieces on the board with which to play. If I had *just* one pawn and *just* two rooks, and he had the standard chess set-up, I'd get my ass kicked not because of player skill, but because of balance issues.

In WoW, you don't want to get your ass handed to you by someone who can promptly place their face on their keyboard and roll around for a few minutes. You want things to be *as balanced* as they can be so after, when you own someone, you actually feel like you did something that required dexterity, coordination, quick-thinking, and on the fly adaptation.

[Alfador]

If I'm playing a game of chess with my friend (and subsequently losing, because I'm horrible at chess), we have the same amount of pieces on the board with which to play. If I had *just* one pawn and *just* two rooks, and he had the standard chess set-up, I'd get my ass kicked not because of player skill, but because of balance issues.

In WoW, you don't want to get your ass handed to you by someone who can promptly place their face on their keyboard and roll around for a few minutes. You want things to be *as balanced* as they can be so after, when you own someone, you actually feel like you did something that required dexterity, coordination, quick-thinking, and on the fly adaptation.

Chess is intended above all else to one one single person versus another. WoW PvP is not.

[Aldeba]

having balanced classes would mean that the damage against players would be the same, meaning that in confrontation, you would draw each

say for me you are a troll and are just trolling plssssss, if not...
seriously you are the noobish i ever seen, you really think if the classes are perfectly balanced they will always draw?
skill? gear? diferent playstyles of each class? this things dont say nothing to you? OMG /facepalm

[Flummox]

Chess is intended above all else to one one single person versus another. WoW PvP is not.

No less applicable to any other competition, team sport or one on one. Don't argue to argue.

[Pontificate]

Yo dawg, I heard you like trolling so we put a troll post in your troll thread so you can troll while you troll!

[shotrey]

Heroic Difficulty: Do you not understand? the idea of heroics and epics are that they provide a challenge, and you EARN the epics, if you want easy gear, join a guild and get them to carry you through the dungeons.

45 minute cues, multiple hour runs on some of the longer ones(like Deadmines)

I am all for SHORT, and HARD dungeons, I think the Heroics are currently too large for their difficulty, let earning factor not be "Patience" or "Guild runs" but pure player skill.

[Alfador]

No less applicable to any other competition, team sport or one on one. Don't argue to argue.

Arguing to argue? No, arguing because your analogy is flawed to the point it is invalid? Yes. There is no application of that hilarious scenario to WoW. If you're going to defend your point, actually defend it. It's ill befitting to accuse others of arbitrarily being contrarian simply for undermining your logic. WoW PvP is not a 1v1 endgame of 2 equally equipped opponents. It was not meant to be, and there is no reason to make that comparison. Chess is not a "team sport" just because you have multiple pieces on the board. The notion that the two are worthy of comparison is, to be honest, almost farcical.