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  1. #21
    thank you karnadas.
    we where getting 70% attempts with tank swapping. we did what you suggested but then whitout the fire mage and we kept prot warrior (me) on the adds. shockwave/rend kills worms fast and helps with the healing.
    but with your tactic we getting a kill tonight. seeing as we just had a 15% whipe. thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafir View Post
    That isnt really how fast or even semi fast progressive raiding works. You find a logical way to do
    something, and practice it.
    this is so true. its really not about gear its about mechanics and practice and skill for HM.
    Gearscore is like a bikini. It shows you what you already know and doesn't show what REALLY matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alianthos View Post
    Did you watch any 25 heroic video of this ? NO ONE killed adds. How can you define the "point" of an encounter when no one does it the way you say ?

    But, yes. With this fix, its now about killing the adds (less HP, no more fire).
    Everyone kills adds now. The first iteration of magmaw heroic, the adds moved incredibly slow and everyone at THAT time kited them.

    Then a stealth hotfix was applied a few weeks later, and now EVERYONE must kill them. It is NOT currently possible to kite them forever like it was before.

    Stop blindly trusting every video you see. Also, you dont need to kill parasites, if you have a DK on them.
    Last edited by lovehatelove; 2011-03-09 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovehatelove View Post
    Everyone kills adds now. The first iteration of magmaw heroic, the adds moved incredibly slow and everyone at THAT time kited them.

    Then a stealth hotfix was applied a few weeks later, and now EVERYONE must kill them. It is NOT currently possible to kite them forever like it was before.

    Stop blindly trusting every video you see. Also, you dont need to kill parasites, if you have a DK on them.
    what es said

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    I would say it is notably simpler in comparison to what it used to be. You just need to get the add killing under control so that you finish them in a timely manner without having many too low at the same time (easiest is to kill them one by one) and avoid bringing them low right before or during the head phase. There is notably less fire now and you get to keep the people previously dedicated to kiting with the raid making up for the lost dps - not to mention Magmaw's health got nerfed by some 20 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovehatelove View Post
    Everyone kills adds now. The first iteration of magmaw heroic, the adds moved incredibly slow and everyone at THAT time kited them.

    Then a stealth hotfix was applied a few weeks later, and now EVERYONE must kill them. It is NOT currently possible to kite them forever like it was before.

    Stop blindly trusting every video you see. Also, you dont need to kill parasites, if you have a DK on them.
    Well, well, well, thank you Captain Obvious !

    Did you notice the date of my post ? When i made my comment, no one killed the adds. Of course now we kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alianthos View Post
    Did you watch any 25 heroic video of this ? NO ONE killed adds. How can you define the "point" of an encounter when no one does it the way you say ?

    But, yes. With this fix, its now about killing the adds (less HP, no more fire).
    what a dummy...

    on topic now: it doesnt matter if they are running faster now tank them and win, its an easy fight now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovehatelove View Post
    Everyone kills adds now. The first iteration of magmaw heroic, the adds moved incredibly slow and everyone at THAT time kited them.

    Then a stealth hotfix was applied a few weeks later, and now EVERYONE must kill them. It is NOT currently possible to kite them forever like it was before.

    Stop blindly trusting every video you see. Also, you dont need to kill parasites, if you have a DK on them.
    I love people who read old posts then condescendingly discuss information that has changed since then. The post you quoted was even aware of the changes due to 4.0.6 and mentions it will be about killing adds.

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    Please don't necro old threads.

    This thread was made before the hotfixes, all replies about the recent fixes and alterations to the encounters' strategies are null in the context of the OP.

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