Almost Identical Loot Drops

[Doomninja]

So as the title states my guild has had pretty much identical loot from most of the bosses in our currently 11/12 normal mode raid. And me playing on my rogue I have not seen any gear in the last 6 weeks, besides the two tier pieces I can get from VP. As of now I can do enough dps for the content but I am worried about that this is the same problem I have had with the guild master before were for some reason we would have the same loot drop for an extremely long time. We've talked to multiple GM's and they just say some bs about "the random dungeon loot is working fine, Sorry!" and poof away to GM world or wherever they decide to go. This is not a qq thread but in our 10 man not getting loot is going to start hurting us after we start hard modes. Now I am not saying we NEVER get loot because we have gotten a few good drops here and there but we usually get either the exact same loot or 1 of the same and 1 new and possibly that 1 new is completely useless. I mean like I said I havent seen any "drops" in 6 weeks as of last night and im still using a pvp dagger and my throat slasher from the first week of cata so I get kinda peeved when I see people who have a better gear and are either really terrible at their class or have some retarded enchant on it because they dont want to spend 500g on hurricane. Now this really isnt about my rogue more so about the raid, but I thought I would just give and example. Has this happened to anyone else or is my guild just extremely unlucky?

[Agallochh]

RNG is RNG, simple as that.

My guild gets a lot of useless raid drops. These turn into maelstrom crystals for raiders to get nice enchants though, so in the end it's all good.

[Arck908]

Only complaint I've had about loot so far is all this triple vanq, been seeing so much triple vanq since ICC and it seems to have continued through to cata.

[Doomninja]

So true but I mean like I said we dont get many good drops, which include weapons and we dont want to waste a power torrent or landslide on a shitty weapon.

---------- Post added 2011-03-03 at 10:45 PM ----------

We have seen triple prot so ill trade you =P

[Desminn]

rng is random...sorry? i wish better luck to you and your raid. keep at it they will come...maybe? i went from icc release to cata with out ever getting a single trinket past my darkmoon card greatness and the frost badge one =\ (mdps btw)

i saw the ToC 25 one drop once and DBW drop once only to have one ninja'd by the raid leader for himself and the other on was on a "reserve" the whole time *sigh* fail raids.

[Strakha]

When I used to raid more seriously we had a conspiracy theory that the loot table was generated based on who entered the instance first for the raid. We always had our gleader go in first and noticed the loot changed when we had an officer go in the next time. Might be RNG, but we stuck to alternating people entering and seemed to notice a change in the loot dropped more often.

[Doomninja]

Yeah its just it gets to the point where RNG doesnt make alot of sense when you see almost the same loot each week. And like I said im still using that retarded throat slasher from the very first day I turned 85.

---------- Post added 2011-03-03 at 10:48 PM ----------

When I used to raid more seriously we had a conspiracy theory that the loot table was generated based on who entered the instance first for the raid. We always had our gleader go in first and noticed the loot changed when we had an officer go in the next time. Might be RNG, but we stuck to alternating people entering and seemed to notice a change in the loot dropped more often.

hrmmmm see when this happened a while back a gm came back and told us somthing like that. That our GL's raid Id was bugged and to swap it everyonce ina while. We did but didnt notice a huge change but im willing to try that. Thanks for the tip.

[steveyboy]

Stop crying. Random loot is random.

We have the polearm with agility on from halfus drop every time we dont have a hunter or druid in the raid.

Not to mention all the resto shaman gear droppin.

[Aldoran]

rng is rng
almost half of the loot we were getting past month - mail and we have only 1 shaman and 1 hunter in guild )
same 'luck' with halfus - killed 5 time and 4 times got attack speed buff+reduce healing.

[Heywes]

55% of our loot goes to DE or off spec. We have seen the same loot drop off the same bosses up to 3 weeks in a row. RNG is crap. Sorry mate, feel your pain

[Waimzer]

We have had the SAME cloth item drop from each boss in BWL drop each week since started farming that place, our holy priest is almost fully epic'd now, the rest of us still sat with just the rep/craft epics , and any other 2nd drop tends to be mail or for a class we dont take :P

We've got to the stage where we predict what 2nd item is gonna drop, because the first is always cloth

[Deleted]

Stop crying. Random loot is random.

We have the polearm with agility on from halfus drop every time we dont have a hunter or druid in the raid.

Not to mention all the resto shaman gear droppin.

you just made me die a little inside, we got 2 hunters & me as feral druid who wants that & never ever drops

[sabbath032]

When I used to raid more seriously we had a conspiracy theory that the loot table was generated based on who entered the instance first for the raid. We always had our gleader go in first and noticed the loot changed when we had an officer go in the next time. Might be RNG, but we stuck to alternating people entering and seemed to notice a change in the loot dropped more often.

We shared the same conspiracy theory over on Kargath - US back in vanilla. We got screwed over for weeks until we randomly decided to have someone else create the raid and enter first, and for a few weeks/months we had a nice spread of loot. It was referred to as the "seed" in my guild.

But really, RNG just sucks. Same reason some people couldn't/can't get the green proto from the egg after getting spoiled yolks for months while others get it on their first try.



EDIT*
Forgot to mention in BWL we got the hardest RNG combination you could get on Chromaggus for like 2 months straight when we were trying to learn the fight.

[Slickx]

During icc it took me about 50+ normal/heroic Putricide kills to finally get a tiny abom in a jar so I feel your pain.

[HitMan0]

rng is rng
same 'luck' with halfus - killed 5 time and 4 times got attack speed buff+reduce healing.

lol that isnt random there was a list put up on MMO a while back that told you what it would be from week to week and just cycles throught that list and it the same for all servers although US and Euro and at diffrent stages on the list.

[Idontlikeyou]

When it comes to RNG, people forget about all the other groups running the same instance at the same time. While it may look like the same drops to you, its diffrent for every group.

If I were to offer 10 different items, and there were 50 groups running the same instance, on the same server, odds are some items will seem more common to some, when rare to others. You have to remember that the RNG is just not centered to your group only.

[Bendeis]

RNG is RNG.

Sames goes for the melee dps shoulders from Halfus for my guild, they just refuse to drop.
In the meantime, I see everyone and their grandmother walk around in them.

[DemoBytom]

we were thinking about this yesterday. We had 2 10 man groups doing the same raids - winds and bwd. and first 3 bosses dropped exactly the same loot for both groups. Weird thing...

[PBitt]

You should join my guild then....we have rogue stuff drop off of practically every boss since we started killing things...our rogue was in nearly all purples before we were even 6/12 normal mode. Plus we still have many loot pieces we have never even seen on bosses we've killed at least 10 times now, and we actually need those pieces.

But yeah...RNG is RNG, and it makes it that better when you finally get it, usually. To be fair, though, rogues are quite easy to gear, even if they are not the best normal mode pieces, you guys have a lot of boe's including weapons and a helm. While it might not be bis, I'm pretty sure between rep stuff, craftables, trash drops, VP items, and the first *two* bosses in BWD and the first *two* in BoT, nothing else, you can get a rogue in full epic gear.

[Deleted]

Exactly the same with our guild mate, 70 maybe 80% gets DE and our poor rogue has the exactly same problem as you mate, has gone weeks with no loot!