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    List of boss abilities granting Holy Power through Blessed Life

    Blessed Life (BL) can account for a major part of our Holy Power (HoPo) generation, in some encounters. There's some boss abilities we can't avoid, and generating that extra HoPo can be nice, so I’ve with the help from eternalwhitemoon and Simca made this list containing which boss abilities that generates that extra HoPo. If there's anything that should be corrected, please write it as a comment and I'll make a change.

    If you're using web logs, you can use following code to indentify what abilities causes you to gain HoPo:
    [{"spellNames": ["Blessed Life"], "eventTypes": [8]}, {"eventTypes": [1], "targetNames": ["Your Name Here"]}]

    FIRELANDS
    Beth'tilac
    • Venom Rain
    • Burning Acid
    Lord Rhyolith
    • Concussive Stomp
    Alysrazor
    • Blazing Talon Initiates's Fieroblast
    Shannox
    • Magma Flare
    • Arcing Slash
    Baleroc, the Gatekeeper
    • Unknown
    Majordomo Staghelm
    • Flame Scythe (you'll get at least 5-7 procs from it in this fight)
    Ragnaros

    BASTION OF TWILIGHT

    Halfus

    Valiona and Theralion
    Ascendant Council
    Cho'gall

    BLACKWING DESCENT
    Magmaw

    • none
    Omnotron Defense System
    Maloriak
    Atramedes
    Chimaeron
    Nefarian
    THRONE OF THE FOUR WINDS
    Conclave of Wind

    Al'Akir
    Last edited by iLive; 2011-07-16 at 04:28 PM.

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    Magmaw: magma spit or whatever they called
    Omnitron: electron, arcanotron and maybe magmatron???
    Maloriak: biting chill???
    Chimaeron: caustic slime

    Halfus: fireball, i dont think shadow nova proc blessed life
    Valiona: twilight blast

    This is what i've done till now in raid. So i think that 1 point (since there is the ICD of 8 seconds) it's good to put in Blessed Life.

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    blessed life doesnt work at all on valiona, out of 22 tries on hc last night only 3 procs, i specced into it hoping it would grant alot of holy power

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    bump, looking for more comments

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    Nef: Shadowflame barrage. (=on p2 it is very good, p1 and p3 it's useless.)
    Cho: Corrupting missiles, which should be always avoided = useless.
    Haven't tried it on Council so will just guess that water missiles should proc it (not the interruptable, but the waterlog one), maybe the lightning rod and I would also guess that in P3 the lightning should proc it as well, which is kinda constant but the phase is farely short, making it farely useful.
    Conclave: Nothing comes to mind?
    Al'Akir: Wind Blast in P1?

    (BTW very, very good thread, very useful)
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    The abilities I list are only abilities I noticed haven't been mentioned yet. I'll keep editing this as I pour over the logs.

    Edit: I think I've found about all I'm going to find. You guys should use the code I provide below to see if you can pick up anything in your WoL that I missed. Please remember, analyzing raw data is superior to simply guessing based on observation.

    Halfus
    Shadow Nova (avoidable)
    Furious Roar

    Valiona and Theralion
    Nada. Zilch. Zero. Systems failure.

    Ascendant Council
    Glaciate
    Water Bomb
    Flame Torrent (avoidable)
    Thundershock (Everyone takes at least a small amount of damage from this, so this can't be lumped into 'avoidable' :P)
    Chain Lightning
    Lava Plume

    Cho'gall
    Blood of the Old God (avoidable)
    Random procs from players hitting me while MCed
    Malformation Shadow Bolt (avoidable--this is the tentacle you get from 75 Corruption)

    Magmaw
    Despite what others have said, my logs indicate absolutely no procs on this fight, even looking over multiple raids.

    Omnotron
    Stuff that's already been mentioned by the OP: Arcane Annihilator/Electrical Discharge. I had the fortune of not being targeted by Acquiring Target for a few kills in a row.

    Chimaeron
    Massacre
    Note: Caustic Slime does not seem to trigger BL as suggested by Siral. I've looked my logs over carefully and repeatedly, over several raids. Not one caused by Caustic Slime.

    Maloriak
    Flash Freeze

    Atramedes
    Modulation

    Nefarian
    I think I may have specced out of BL by the time we got to Nefarian. I find it hard to believe that nothing in there procs BL.

    Conclave (note: I am on Anshal/Nezir, never on Rohash, so I don't have any logs to indicate what on Rohash's platform procs it)
    Wind Chill

    Al'akir
    Wind Burst (may or may not be "avoidable" depending on tornado RNG)
    Static Shock
    Squall Line (totally avoidable)

    Here's the query you can use to find what procs Blessed Life for you. Go to the Log Browser and click Paste, and put this in; don't forget to change Your Name Here to your character's name.

    Code:
    [{"spellNames": ["Blessed Life"], "eventTypes": [8]}, {"eventTypes": [1], "targetNames": ["Your Name Here"]}]
    Then search for entries where a Hit and Proc entry are next to each other, for example:

    [22:36:04.737] Chimaeron Massacre Persephøne 88171 (A: 811828)
    [22:36:05.128] Persephøne gains 1 from Persephøne's Blessed Life

    Code courtesy of Amnerys at Elitist Jerks. Source.
    Last edited by eternalwhitemoon; 2011-03-06 at 02:42 PM.

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    ^^ amazing comments, definitly adding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iLive View Post
    ^^ amazing comments, definitly adding them.
    I know you're probably not done editing, but don't forget to add Modulation under Atramedes and Flash Freeze under Maloriak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalwhitemoon View Post
    I know you're probably not done editing, but don't forget to add Modulation under Atramedes and Flash Freeze under Maloriak.
    I'm not done, but I wouldn't add this even if I were. Thanks mate <'3

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    It used to work on Nef's Lightning Machine which was pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iLive View Post
    I'm not done, but I wouldn't add this even if I were. Thanks mate <'3
    I assume you wouldn't forget to add it, or wouldn't forget. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    It used to work on Nef's Lightning Machine which was pretty awesome.
    Used to? Did they tweak it or did you stop speccing BL? Do you have any logs from when you DID have BL and were doing Nef, so that we can see what it procs from?

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    btw in P1 on nefarian, when the only tank turns onyxia with her tail to the raid to avoid the electric stuff on her sides, her tailswipe generates holy power too

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    I also wouldn't call Static Shock 100% avoidable, since sometimes you're forced to move into melee because of the tornadoes.

    I don't have logs to prove this, but so far we have listed from other posters:

    Nefarian
    Tail Swipe (Onyxia)
    Shadowflame Barrage
    Last edited by eternalwhitemoon; 2011-03-06 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IshimaruSR View Post
    btw in P1 on nefarian, when the only tank turns onyxia with her tail to the raid to avoid the electric stuff on her sides, her tailswipe generates holy power too
    This only matters if you're healing the onyxia tank

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-06 at 06:11 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by eternalwhitemoon View Post
    Used to? Did they tweak it or did you stop speccing BL? Do you have any logs from when you DID have BL and were doing Nef, so that we can see what it procs from?
    Don't exactly remember, but I think I specced out of it because of that.
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    I wouldn't have made it this far without you guys, and especially not without you eternalwhitemoon. :] Thanks.

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-06 at 06:27 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    Don't exactly remember, but I think I specced out of it because of that.
    So Electrocute gives no HoPo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iLive View Post
    I wouldn't have made it this far without you guys, and especially not without you eternalwhitemoon. :] Thanks.

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-06 at 06:27 PM ----------



    So Electrocute gives no HoPo?
    NP.

    It doesn't seem so. Again, I was specced out of BL before my guild got to Nef, so I don't have logs to sift through. If it still works, that'd be one of the first things people would have mentioned, so I suspect as Nillo said it worked initially, but then was altered in some way to stop working.

    I could see why too--between Crackle and Shadowflame Barrage, that's a loooot of free Holy Power flying around. Probably felt too cheese-able and made us too efficient on that fight.

    Edit: This is a really great, unbiased and informative topic. I think this should get stickied. (I also think I should try to cut down on editing myself a billion times. Oh well. One step at a time.)

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-06 at 03:26 PM ----------

    Figured this was worth a new post, rather than (yet another) edit. I grabbed a log from Hendrixstorm, and confirmed:

    Nefarian
    Lightning Machine Electrocute (now confirmed! still works as of March 3)
    Shadowflame Barrage (we already knew this, but it's nice to confirm via logs)
    Tail Lash (same as above)
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    I'll definitely mention this in the guide sticky and add it to helpful topics.

    As for making it its own sticky, we try not to go above a max number of stickies (which is why we unstickied the 'discussion' topics).
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalwhitemoon View Post
    Figured this was worth a new post, rather than (yet another) edit. I grabbed a log from Hendrixstorm, and confirmed:

    Nefarian
    Lightning Machine Electrocute (now confirmed! still works as of March 3)
    Shadowflame Barrage (we already knew this, but it's nice to confirm via logs)
    Tail Lash (same as above)
    Added, thanks again.

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    Valiona and Theralion
    Unstable Twilight (Heroic only)

    (credit to Hendrixstorm for his log)

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    Some changes:
    Arcane Annihilator (interuptable) - Spelling mistake on the word interruptible.
    Acquiring Target (low chance to be targetted) - Should just say "low chance" here.

    Flash Freeze - This should be a low chance.
    Consuming Flames - This should be a low chance.

    Shadow Nova (avoidable) - This should be interruptible.

    Waterlogged - More appropriate to call this "Water Bomb" because the Waterlogged debuff doesn't trigger it, just the explosion of the bomb thrown. Could also mention there is a good chance to be hit by this.
    Lava Seed - This is avoidable.

    Stuff that doesn't proc it that should be removed with log proof:
    Sonic Breath (avoidable) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2...ses&boss=41442
    Sonar Bomb (avoidable) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2...ses&boss=41442
    Last edited by Simca; 2011-03-07 at 08:20 PM.
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