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    Destro Lock, Cho'Gall Ready?

    Hi guys.

    Recently my Guild just downed Ascendant Council and we should be attempting Cho'Gall now any day. I on average pull 11K-13K DPS overall and on single targets I can pull as high as 16K DPS. We do 10M raids and I want to know if my gear is ready enough yet and if you guys have any suggestions to what I can change before this encounter.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...estrock/simple

    Thank you!
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    354 equipped ilvl, i'd say yes.

    my shaman is 350 ilvl and I healed it just fine and was #1 healing done to boot so you should be fine.

    16k single target is fine. On Cho'Gall your biggest asset to the raid is Shadowfury for both Worships and to interrupt tentacles in phase 2.
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    I downed cho'gall with pug on my wlock with 352 ilvl so ye I think you're ready, tho you could do some more dps ^^

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/iqoeh/simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by heenksa33 View Post
    I downed cho'gall with pug on my wlock with 352 ilvl so ye I think you're ready, tho you could do some more dps ^^
    Can you help me improve my dps?
    On Halfus I did 27K
    V&T 14K
    CoW 14K
    Ascendant Council 10K.. ( I had the lightning de-buff on me for most of second phase so I had to stay as far back as possible from raid. )

    My current rot on bosses is,

    DS > CoE > SB > SF > BoA > Immo > Confla > Chaos Bolt > Incinerate till Immo is up, I also put Lifeblood on when I can to from Herbalism.
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    Your dps should be enough. Either way. Cho gall(normal) is pretty faceroll. If you can kill ascendent council you should have no issues on him.

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    Why are you casting Shadowbolt? Bane of Agony? Really? wheres corruption? What is DG? Not specing into bane of havoc?

    After looking at your spec I see a number of problems.

    1) Improved Searing Pain.
    2) Aftermath
    3) No Shadowburn
    4) No Bane of Havoc
    5) No Imp Corruption
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agallochh View Post
    Why are you casting Shadowbolt? Bane of Agony? Really? wheres corruption?
    Hehe indeed, stop the SB BoA and start corruption and BoD :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agallochh View Post
    Why are you casting Shadowbolt? Bane of Agony? Really? wheres corruption? What is DG? Not specing into bane of havoc?
    If I were Demo I'd use SB but not while I'm Destro. BoA I was told was just as useful, DG was a typo & Bane of Havoc I'd rather spend my points in other talents.

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    Also the stamina spec in demo isnt that important? ;P

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    1 talent point for a cast and forget cleave? No wonder your Twin Dragons dps is so low. Get those PvP talents outta there. Put 3 points in Improved Corruption and use it. Put 1 point in Bane of Havoc and put it on Cho'Gall before you switch to the Adds.

    Incinerate gives the 5% spell crit that Shadow Bolt gives, take Shadow Bolt off your bars as Destro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heenksa33 View Post
    Also the stamina spec in demo isnt that important? ;P
    This, too. 2 points is enough just to get you down to Mana Feed.

    Here's my spec: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lent/secondary


    Bane of Doom is a DPS increase over Bane of Agony.
    Shadow Bolt is a DPS decrease over Incinerate.
    Not using Corruption is a DPS decrease.
    Not using bane of havoc effectively is a DPS decrease.

    You should also be using Shadowflame on cooldown as long as you're in range for a DPS increase.

    Your rotation should be more like: Soulfire > Immolate > Corruption > Conflagrate > Chaos Bolt > Incinerate > Incinerate > Incinerate > Renew ISF > Renew DoTs > Keep Chas Bolt and Conflag on cooldown > Shadowflame on Cooldown when in range.

    Using Shadowburn on cooldown when it's possible to use is a DPS increase.
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    ISF Buff keep up always
    Incin is ur filler
    Immo/BoD (BoH on Multi Target)/Corruption These should always be up
    Chaos bolt on CD

    ^Destro in a nutshell.

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    and hardcast soulfire to keep the ISF buff from dropping off, if your imp's rng isn't working out :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by jster View Post
    ISF Buff keep up always
    Incin is ur filler
    Immo/BoD (BoH on Multi Target)/Corruption These should always be up
    Chaos bolt on CD

    ^Destro in a nutshell.
    don't forget conflag

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    First of all, I'd regem completely. Int is your best stat, and gemming for haste is pretty pointless unless you're to hit an additional immo tick, which you are nowhere near. Your spec is wrong, as others have pointed out. You should be reforging mastery before you reforge crit. BoH is an amazing talent btw, you're stupid to not take it.

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    Didn't even notice the gems.

    If the socket bonus isn't 20+ int, you should put +40 Int gems in them.

    Never gem pure haste. In fact, never gem pure -insert secondary stat here-.

    Reforge for Hit. Reforge for Haste. Gem up int.
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    Also, just noticed. Incin glyph over Immo glyph?
    You gotta herp while you derp I suppose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhen View Post
    First of all, I'd regem completely. Int is your best stat, and gemming for haste is pretty pointless unless you're to hit an additional immo tick, which you are nowhere near. Your spec is wrong, as others have pointed out. You should be reforging mastery before you reforge crit. BoH is an amazing talent btw, you're stupid to not take it.
    Please don't be rude. All Guides I've read said that BoH is optional.



    & Agall, I'm Hit Cap so what should I reforge to? What should I gem? I've been told Mastery is completly useless so thats why I have no Mastery gems.

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    I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. And considering BoH is a dps increase on at least half of the current encounters, I'd say that its a pretty worthwhile talent over something like Imp Searing Pain or Aftermath.

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    I told you already. Intellect. Straight up. If you really want to keep set bonuses, Int+Haste in yellows and Int+Hit in blues. Personally, if you're hit capped, i'd gem straight up Brilliant Inferno Ruby for every socket as long as the bonus is +10 Whatever.

    BoH is hardly optional from a min/max perspective. It's required.
    On Magmaw, if you Bane of Havoc the body before the Head Phase, the body takes the BoH damage even though you cant see it. Vice Versa for when the head goes under and the body comes back.. Put your BoH on the head before he retreats, and 15% damage you do is done to the head as well.

    On Omnitron, you can put Bane of Havoc on the target right before you switch targets, BoH doesn't break the shield (just don't do this on Magmatron)

    On Maloriak green phase, Bane of Havoc on him, kill the adds.

    Atramedes, no use for Bane of Havoc.

    Chim, no use for Bane of Havoc.

    Nefarian, BoH on Nef, DPS Ony.

    Halfus, Bane of Havoc on Halfus and burn the drakes.

    Twin Dragons, Bane of Havoc on whichever dragon is in the air.

    Ascendant Council, bane of havoc on whichever mob you aren't focusin on.

    Cho'gall, Bane of Havoc on Cho'gall when you switch over to burn the adds.

    On a majority of fights, there's a use for Bane of Havoc.

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-12 at 12:46 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Arhen View Post
    Also, just noticed. Incin glyph over Immo glyph?
    You gotta herp while you derp I suppose...
    truth.

    While you may think "hmm i use incinerate more than immolate" that's not the case.
    Glyph of Immolate not only increases Immolates damage, but also Conflag's.
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