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    Nice guide ! thanks a lot

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    Great Guide, we of the shaman community thank you, I do however have a couple of questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tides View Post
    Recommended Talent Spec

    Version 1
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    Both specs are very similar. The points in Reverberation and Elemental Precision are mostly optional, with the option for putting them into Call of Flame or Elemental Warding depending on the need for aoe or more survivability.



    Chestpiece
    Dragonkiller Tunic Leatherworking BoE.
    Tier 11 Chestpiece Valor Points.
    Vest of the True Companion Justice Points.
    2 questions.
    In both specs why are you valuing crit over mastery via maxing out acuity and not elemental precision?
    Why in ranking the chest pieces did you place DK tunic above teir?(tier having more mastery than haste and the LW chest vice versa, and only having one gem slot)
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    I'm not 100% on the values right now cause i dint sleep, but the general thought behind is it, to take the crit spec first, so you can keep a decent uptime on ED and when you've geared properly you can start moving the floating points around a bit to suit you better.



    It's a bit of a cointoss with the tierchest vs the tunic. If you got the funds (VP) to spare the Tier is definently a better choice, i should probably elaborate on it. The thought behind it was rather simple. Longterm you're not gonna keep your Tierchest over the chest from Maloriak, so spending VP on it early on would not be super smart unless you had alot to spare. How can i make that into 1 simple line so its easy to understand in the mainpost?

    Edit: I'll change the recommended specs around a bit, to offer a little more guidance.
    Thanks for the feedback, especially the edit note :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tides View Post
    I'm not 100% on the values right now cause i dint sleep, but the general thought behind is it, to take the crit spec first, so you can keep a decent uptime on ED and when you've geared properly you can start moving the floating points around a bit to suit you better.



    It's a bit of a cointoss with the tierchest vs the tunic. If you got the funds (VP) to spare the Tier is definently a better choice, i should probably elaborate on it. The thought behind it was rather simple. Longterm you're not gonna keep your Tierchest over the chest from Maloriak, so spending VP on it early on would not be super smart unless you had alot to spare. How can i make that into 1 simple line so its easy to understand in the mainpost?

    Edit: I'll change the recommended specs around a bit, to offer a little more guidance.
    Thanks for the feedback, especially the edit note :P
    ED uptime shouldn't be too much of an issue with a glyphed stormstrike and 3/3 in static shock even in not so good gear(shocks- LS procs- mw5), I'd have to sim it (not smart enough to do btw) but a 1-2% increase on the seems better than an extra 1% crit or 5% on LS dmg.

    On the subject of the chest pieces, it may just be better to not list the tier. If ppl can't figure out why then they prob haven't read enough of the FAQ yet :\
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    True. To both your points. Maybe i should jot down a priority for VP spending and remove all the VP gear from the Pre-raid thingy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tides View Post
    True. To both your points. Maybe i should jot down a priority for VP spending and remove all the VP gear from the Pre-raid thingy?
    Sounds good, if any beginners were to read the list we wouldn't want them to spend a large chunk of VP on something they should plan on replacing given the chance. Though the easier thing to do may be to just include a disclaimer at the beginning and save yourself some time.
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    Well, i dint realy accept this task, because i wanted to save time :P

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    True, >.< in that case it may just be better to go through and write up a VP priority like you said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porkkana View Post
    Just got full epic gear yesterday and wondering if im doing everything correctly. Went to a random HC gruop where was a full epic frost dk and he was pulling 20k on trash while i was at 14k-15k, is it just because our aoe sucks??? Cant post my armory link here but char name Ðaða server Vashj.
    I'm in blues with 3 epics, and 333 mainhand aswell as 308 relic with shit trinkets and I do 12k~ on multitrash packs, more on singletrash ofc. (Plus I've played enhancement at 85 for 2 days) I think you are doing something wrong :P

    Also, thanks for this topic OP, really helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    I'm in blues with 3 epics, and 333 mainhand aswell as 308 relic with shit trinkets and I do 12k~ on multitrash packs, more on singletrash ofc. (Plus I've played enhancement at 85 for 2 days) I think you are doing something wrong :P

    Also, thanks for this topic OP, really helps
    Enh doesn't scale especially well as far as spell dmg compared to physical. Then all the different buffs come into play like if there was a mut rogue/uh dk/ boomkin/demo lock present to increase spell dmg in any way, the mobs in question and how they're positioned, along with whether or not your CL is glyphed. W/o the exact conditions its really hard to compare. :/
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    Hi guys =)
    I'm a but new in this enhancement game. (Have played Elemental for like 2 years now, but I got tired of that)
    So I just have a question about some trinkets.

    What is the best of these trinkets?
    1)+321 agi + chance to proc 680 weapon damage for 10 sec.
    2)+321 mastery + use + 1605 agi for 20 sek.
    (trinkets from trash in bot and exxalted with hellscream)

    as a seccond trinket, I use the trinket I got from JC drop.
    (+ hit + use 1425agi) So I cant realy change that one. I need my hitrating (refoged to expertise aswell)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazomi View Post
    Hi guys =)
    I'm a but new in this enhancement game. (Have played Elemental for like 2 years now, but I got tired of that)
    So I just have a question about some trinkets.

    What is the best of these trinkets?
    1)+321 agi + chance to proc 680 weapon damage for 10 sec.
    2)+321 mastery + use + 1605 agi for 20 sek.
    (trinkets from trash in bot and exxalted with hellscream)

    as a seccond trinket, I use the trinket I got from JC drop.
    (+ hit + use 1425agi) So I cant realy change that one. I need my hitrating (refoged to expertise aswell)
    #1 sounds like unheeded warning which is a horrible trinket for enh and the trinket from Tolbarad is merely "ok"
    The Jc one is fine for now, though i would suggest getting Tia's Grace from H-Lost City. But your real aim is to get the DMC:Hurricane and the VP trinket Fluid Death.
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    If you're chosing between Unheeded Warning and the Unsolvable Riddle then i'd definently go with the riddle.
    On Use Trinkets are often left out because it's a on Use, but with a little care and thought they can be pretty strong when used with other Cooldowns like Feral Spirit Bloodlust, potions and whatnot. And they dont have the disadvantage of proccing ~3 seconds before you have to run away from a boss.

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    Just some additional bits I thought the guide might like (I'm sure you could of done it yourself, I just like helping out when possible.)

    Heirlooms
    Justice Points-2175 JPs per item
    Chest+10% Experience
    Shoulders+10% Experience
    1-Handed Hammer Gives no experience boost but will out-stat the majority of other one-handers you obtain in your travels to 85. (You can wield two separate Venerable Mass of McGowans at one time).

    Honor Points-2175 HPs per item
    Shoulders+10% Experience (Substitute for Honor Points Heirloom).

    Guild
    Note these require you to be in a guild that is at level 20+ and you must have honoured reputation with that guild.
    Helmet+10% Experience (1500 Gold)
    Cape+5% Experience (1200 Gold)

    Archaeology
    There are currently no Archaeology heirlooms which suit the Enhancement Shaman stat priority. However I would recommend using Ring of the Boy Emperor if you have it until you obtain your first two rings, because it is still a small boost to your lower priority stats, despite also not having an experience boost. All of the other heirloom items obtained through Archaeology are either unequipable or next to useless for Enhancement shamans.

    You can wield any of the above heirlooms at level 1-85. It will not unequip any of these items once you reach a certain level. However I do believe you only keep the experience bonus from the guild heirlooms for the entire 1-85 unlike the chest and shoulders which only last from 1-80
    If you buy these for your Shaman it will appear as mail armor on the buyers screen. When you trade it to your Shaman it will be seen as Leather or Mail dependant on whether or not you have bought the ability to equip Mail at level 40.

    A useful macro which I found on WoWhead:

    #showtooltip
    /focus [mod:shift]
    /clearfocus [mod:alt]; [target=focus,dead]
    /stopmacro [mod:alt]; [nocombat,mod:shift]
    /focus [target=focus,noexists]
    /cast [@focus] Hex
    If you target the mob you wish to cast Hex on, then click the macro button, it will set your current target to your Focus and cast Hex on it. You can then target another mob to DPS whilst still having a unit frame for your focus target displaying your Hex debuff. You can also, without changing targets, click the macro button again to recast Hex on your Focus should you need to re-hex.

    Holding Alt while pressing the macro button will stop the macro and clear your Focus. Holding Shift while pressing the macro button will change your focus to your current target (pressing the macro after that will cast Hex on the new Focus).

    Make two macros - one for Hex and one for Bind Elemental (just replace "Hex" in the macro with "Bind Elemental").

    NOTE: You can't use both at once because they share the "Focus Target".

    I hope this helps and don't worry if you think any of this stuff isn't worthy for your guide then don't bother putting it on.
    Awesome guide btw, thanks for putting the time and effort into making it.
    Last edited by Euzan; 2011-03-30 at 03:39 PM.

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    Just a question, Which is the best horde race atm for Enhance? Orc?
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    I've been a regular reader and i like every tips i read.

    I have a question though , what is your average dps on fights like for example.

    25's

    Nefarian , Chimeron , Maloriak ( Normal on all )

    Why i'm asking i got told that i should be able to push 20k+ on most of this with my gear , but rarely i can reach more then 18.5 - 19k

    except chimeron where i do hit 20k+ from time to time ( guess lucky on maelstrom proccs )

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...heart/advanced

    Here's my armory , and logs from our latest raid on nef and maloriak.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qd9lmtl8qbw0p03t/

    thanks for any help advice! I do prepot potion of tolvir before start of fight and use winds flask + 90 agi food. dunno what i can do to improve really...:/

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    It looks like your uptime on searing flames is at less than 50% on all the Mal attempts and thats going to hurt big time in the long run.
    You also don't have static shock maxed - might want to drop a point in Improved shields to get that. Your uptime on the boss also looks to be a bit less than the other melee in your raid and your flame shock up time is less than 10% to completely non-existent on some attempts. Altogether it seems like your hitting buttons but not always necessarily the right ones - do you use SAA at all? If so you may need to update the priority list
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euzan View Post
    Just some additional bits I thought the guide might like (I'm sure you could of done it yourself, I just like helping out when possible.)

    Heirlooms
    Justice Points
    Chest+10% Experience
    Shoulders+10% Experience
    1-Handed Hammer Gives no experience boost but will out-stat the majority of other one-handers you obtain in your travels to 85. (You can wield two separate Venerable Mass of McGowans at one time).

    Honor Points
    Shoulders+10% Experience (Substitute for Honor Points Heirloom).

    Guild
    Note these require you to be in a guild that is at level 20+ and you must have honoured reputation with that guild.
    Helmet+10% Experience
    Cape+5% Experience
    Those mail heirlooms can be weared from lvl 1? or thats from lvl 40?
    tyvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lepp View Post
    Just a question, Which is the best horde race atm for Enhance? Orc?
    Orcs to my knowledge.



    Pelister -> Sounds like you need Shock and Awe to help you with the rotation, going by Shamlrock's reply.

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    nvm i found answer stupid me i bought leather one :S

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