Cheapest Possible Desktop for WoW Ultra?

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http://www.sweclockers.com/recension...10/20#pagehead

Been a while since I saw that test, hah!

[BicycleMafioso]

http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/298045/reasonable-mmo
That, is suddenly a whole lot better.

Been a while since I saw that test, hah!

I should say. But 8 months later, and it's still relatively up-to-date.

[Salroth]

Search N82E16883227267 on Newegg.com (Sorry can't post links)
It's a prebuilt iBUYPOWER for $650 that I bought a couple months ago. It runs WoW on ultra perfectly with the shadows turned down 1 notch. Doesn't come with any bloatware, just Windows 7 and the necessities. Doesn't come with a monitor but I would recommend an ASUS as they are great monitors. Great budget computer imo.

[Fuzzykins]

Ok guys lets say we push it to 1500USD / 9000Kr.
Can this get me a completely functional computer(windows 7 etc) that runs on ultra no questions asked?

Ill digress from using the word "cheapest" to "reasonable". lol

Good man. Yeah, just a sec...
I don't know Sweedish, so I'm just going to recommend you parts.

Case CoolerMaster Haf 922
Mobo Asus P8P67 Pro
CPU Intel i5 2500k
PSU CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600
GPU MSI Twin Frozr II 560 TI
HD Samsung Spinpoint F3
DVD/CD Asus Black IDE
Ram G.Skill Ripjaw X 4GB

I wonder if I missed anything...

---------- Post added 2011-03-19 at 12:55 PM ----------

http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/298045/reasonable-mmo
That, is suddenly a whole lot better.
I should say. But 8 months later, and it's still relatively up-to-date.

Quit recommending crap PSU's please. 450W is nowhere NEAR enough to run an OC 560 ti.

[BicycleMafioso]

Good man. Yeah, just a sec...
I don't know Sweedish, so I'm just going to recommend you parts.

Case CoolerMaster Haf 992
Mobo Asus P8P67 Pro
CPU Intel i5 2500k
PSU CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600
GPU MSI Twin Frozr II 560 TI
HD Samsung Spinpoint F3
DVD/CD Asus Black IDE

I wonder if I missed anything...

Assembly, RAM, PSU not availible anywhere in Sweden. Optical drive - IDE? Really? ;o
EDIT: the case doesn't seem to exist, at all :P

[Fuzzykins]

Assembly, RAM, PSU not availible anywhere in Sweden. Optical drive - IDE? Really? ;o
EDIT: the case doesn't seem to exist, at all :P

Fuckshitdamn, Iforgottheram.
Ram G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB

I'm not sure what's available in Sweden. I'm just making recommendations based on personal knowledge. Feel free to recommend alternatives.

It was a typo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119197
922*

[BicycleMafioso]

Quit recommending crap PSU's please. 450W is nowhere NEAR enough to run an OC 560 ti.

After your suggestion on PSU, that's silly :P
Also,
http://www.sweclockers.com/image/dia...2546144c318669
^ That's with an overclocked i7-975, mind you. 351w for the whole system.
And under full load with 3DMark, even.

[Deleted]

922*

Helps just a tiny bit.

[Fuzzykins]

After your suggestion on PSU, that's silly :P
Also,
http://www.sweclockers.com/image/dia...2546144c318669
^ That's with an overclocked i7-975, mind you. 351w for the whole system.
And under full load with 3DMark, even.

Meh, I'd still be iffy.

[BicycleMafioso]

Meh, I'd still be iffy.

I'm on a personal crusade against anyone suggesting overkill PSUs. It's a rising trend everywhere, not only here.
I mean, I see people swear that the minimum for any build is a 1200w gold-certified PSU, while a 850w (Like the Corsair HX) is good enough to power a 1366system with GTX 580 in SLI, and having overclocking headroom for both, as well as 6 RAM-modules and 6+ SATA-drives. :P

[Fuzzykins]

I'm on a personal crusade against anyone suggesting overkill PSUs. It's a rising trend everywhere, not only here.
I mean, I see people swear that the minimum for any build is a 1200w gold-certified PSU, while a 850w (Like the Corsair HX) is good enough to power a 1366system with GTX 580 in SLI, and having overclocking headroom for both, as well as 6 RAM-modules and 6+ SATA-drives. :P

I recommend a 1500W imo.

[BicycleMafioso]

I recommend a 1500W imo.

<3
Yea, and that's only to power the keyboard + speakers!!

[Fuzzykins]

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Yea, and that's only to power the keyboard + speakers!!

Heh, let's not get Sidetracked. But yeah, in resolution, on the first page, TetrisGoat made an excellent recommendation. I'd follow it to the book. (With maybe a SLIGHTLY bigger PSU. If not for the current system, for future expansion.)

[JustaBigBird]

Err, how does that help HIM?

The 5770 needs more than 400W power supply. Recommending an AMD anything right now is really iffy. I know they're great for budget builds, but I'd still consider them a no-go until we see an upgrade.

Nothing wrong with AMD's my second pc is amd.

[Fuzzykins]

Nothing wrong with AMD's my second pc is amd.

Never said anything was wrong with them, just that there's better alternatives out there right now.

[JustaBigBird]

Never said anything was wrong with them, just that there's better alternatives out there right now.

Well there is no reason to consider them a "no-go"

[Fuzzykins]

There's plenty of reasons to consider them a no-go. Don't turn this into an AMD vs Intel discussion, because right now, Intel comes out on top in terms of performance- > price.

[Biernot]

I'm just gonna comment on this proposal: http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/298045/reasonable-mmo
It's fairly reasonable, but i would suggest one or two things:

Mainboard:
- MSI is the cheapest from the "three big MB manufactors", but not the best. I would advise to ASUS or GIGABYTE.
- Don't chose any "premium" or "pro" variants of a board. They have additions that ar situational at best (like FireWire, CrossFire, etc.). The basic configuration has all that is neccessary.
- If you do not plan to put a lot of additional cards in the pc (like I/O cards for old printers and stuff), a µATX board is plenty enough, but try to get one with 4 ram banks.

Case:
- Never, ever, use a noise-cancelling case for a gaming rig. A gaming pc produces a lot of heat, and noise absorbing mats also are heat insulating.
- You don't need uber cases like the above mentioned CoolerMaster HAF, but your case should have plenty of space and at least the possibility for 2 additional case fans (lower front, upper back) (lower left side and center top would be a bonus). The CoolerMaster Centurion 5 II is a good and cheap example.

CPU:
- Intel is the better choice for WoW. The old i5-760 was clearly ahead of the PhenomII X4-965 and the new SandyBridge cpus are even better.
- Don't buy the -k variants of the new Intels unless you want to overclock (which i wouldn't advise, since the benefit is marginal and the risk is higher)

Graphics:
- WoW doesn't need that much, so a card in the middle price range is your best choice. AMD: 5770 / 6850 / 6870, NVidia: (450 / 460) / 550 / 560

RAM:
- You will not see any difference between 1333 and 1600 ram. But if the 1600 is basically the same price, then why not....
- 4GB (2 x 2GB) is a must, more not neccessary at the moment. But ram is so cheap at the moment, that you can put 8GB (2 x 4GB) in nearly for free.

HDD:
- it might be beneficial to use 2 drives (1 for windows, 1 for wow), but it's not that great of a bonus.
- what really decreases loading times in general is a SSD, but they are expensive. (don't go for less than 100GB, win7 + wow occupy 60GB alone)

[ayako]

If you want a cheap computer chances are you'd want to get a highly overclockable chip. Overclocking = more bang for the buck. You have to do this without paying a huge premium though (for unlocked multipliers *cough intel*)

[Fuzzykins]

Your statements don't even pertain to the recommendations in that link, Bier. I was the one who recommended a HAF case.
--Where are you seeing people saying use 2 drives?
Who said don't use 1333? I'm thinking this is just a copy paste from some random other thread...