Looking forward to this ^_^, and thinks for the Thread.
This thread i great.. Now i dont have to look all over the internet to find info about this game.. thanks for doing my work for me /hug.
Good stuff, but after reading a good bit I went to that link you said contained the best writeup thusfar.
Mind=blown. They should pay that dude.
Actually, Mr. Lennon, I CAN imagine a world with no hatred, religion, war, or violence.
I can also imagine attacking such a world, because they would never see it coming.
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/trashcan.jpg
http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...s/carville.jpe
For once, Carville was a man ahead of his time.
Wait a second, I noticed rodians are not playable as a race? Noooooooo...
"Loss of blood... My only weakness!"
~ Warlord Khan, Magicka
Anyway, if you don't already see where I'm going with this, allow me to spell it out: the only meaningful MMORPG "endgame" -- i.e., something novel to do after the progression process is over -- is that of the sandbox.
WoW... can i say that space combat looks lame? I was expecting something at least Freelancer style, (i know the joystick is all but non-existent these days RIP X-wing vs Tie fighter) But a rail space shooter?....maybe if they make it as fun as Star Fox it'll be cool lol.
so far Guild Wars 2 seems to be the most exciting of the new MMOs to me. but i'll still give SWTOR a shot, tho the space combat is disappointing too me...
*sigh* they just don't make space games like they used too... *reminisces about Wing Commander and Privater*
"Loss of blood... My only weakness!"
~ Warlord Khan, Magicka
Anyway, if you don't already see where I'm going with this, allow me to spell it out: the only meaningful MMORPG "endgame" -- i.e., something novel to do after the progression process is over -- is that of the sandbox.
great thread Trollsbane, i gonna link it on the Unofficial Thread
Nice post mate nice too see all the info needed on SWTOR in one place
To drag it thru the fact checker...as you set it up as an informative thread and wish to stop repeating you might want to think about what you're putting in it that will cause people to question you.
"So it has all the endgame concepts that other MMOs have?"
It sure does.
Yet to be shown, any endgame content other then 1 flashpoint for 4 people.
What is missing from "all other mmo's"?
No competive PvP has been announced yet in terms of Arena's, rated Battlegrounds, Sieges etc. Yes this is seen as Endgame for PvPers.
No big party raids, it has been said something for PvE will be there but right now it's all wishful thinking and assumptions.
No repeatable quests or solo content, yet to be announced aswel.
Only thing we know sure of that will be there at max level is the spaceship minigames and the 1 instance for four.
For the rest, looks correct would've thrown in more interviews that shown an other perspective to let them sort out the positives and negatives themselfs but you're emotionally invested in it and so think you managed to remain fairly objective with choice of highlights.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
Excellent post, very well thought out.
"Loss of blood... My only weakness!"
~ Warlord Khan, Magicka
Anyway, if you don't already see where I'm going with this, allow me to spell it out: the only meaningful MMORPG "endgame" -- i.e., something novel to do after the progression process is over -- is that of the sandbox.
Okay then i'll gladly stand corrected with no problem, if there are any sources for this.
I know that there will be warzones and that they are tied in with the story what for me comes across more like conflicts you experience under leveling.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
Taken from http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/06...pvp-and-craft/Now with the PvP War Zones, they are going to be instanced as well?
The PvP War Zones are very similar to what you see in WAR and WoW.
Will there be any instances of open PvP or is that something you have on your map?
Well, we haven't really talked much about that yet, but I'd rather not say much about that. But since other games have that, it's a likely assumption.
So you are looking at it?
We will have open PvP play and we will have instances, I'll just put it that way.
June 15th 2010.
Haven't seen much about Arena though.
As an pre-release AoC community veteran, i don't really like to go by assumptions
Yes, i'm aware of that article i'm more refering to the point of competitive, ranked PvP and capturable PvP objectives.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
I believe that there is one quote, alone, that actually says they will have "everything" end game. It was very broad and all encompassing.
That Flashpoint is also not max level. Its mid-level.