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Well, it was nice having you, but you're time's up! Tune in next time for THE NEXT SW:TOR HATER!Originally Posted by The Fiend
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2011-07-11, 01:56 PM #10001Stood in the Fire
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2011-07-11, 01:57 PM #10002Field Marshal
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game is done and finished, right breh? Originally Posted by The Fiend
EDIT: Lol 3 person multi-rage.
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2011-07-11, 01:57 PM #10003The Patient
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See, until you used this justification, I was halfway with you. Originally Posted by The Fiend
"I am learning about developing games," isn't really an expert position.
Quite a lot of the videos around are some of the older ones and the graphics and animation has been improved some since then. The thing is, they're not going for a photo-realistic look and it's been said that's on purpose.
That said, I agree with you that the animations I have seen aren't as good as they could be compared to many other video games.
That saddens me somewhat, but it still looks fun!
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2011-07-11, 02:01 PM #10004Pandaren Monk
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The greastest RPG ENGINE makers of all time. Originally Posted by Eightace
Black isle studios did all their writing and character design for all their good things. Let me break down a Bioware RPG for you.
You are an amnesiac or you make the background for your character out of a few choices
You are followed by a part made up of the following archtypes
some kind of military straight man who does things "right"
women, who is a cleric and the first "love intrest"
arsehole rogue man.
bitchy dark magic woman
gruff talking barbarian
you then save the universe/kingdom from some emerging ultimate evil.
also you can either be jesus or an asshole, with no reward or knowledge of a middle ground.
Bioware are the greatest RPG makers? No, they just make the same one and dumbasses latch onto it and proclaim it amazing."Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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2011-07-11, 02:01 PM #10005Bloodsail Admiral
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i've seen actual game footage as well. hell, im sure we all have by now. and i didn't notice the "standing like a mindless zombie" effect. and, as Eightace said, just because u take classes for game dev, does not make u an expert. its like saying i took a class in aeronautics. does that mean i know everything about it and am 100% accurate in my claims? no. Originally Posted by The Fiend
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDethsight?feature=guide<---- my youtube channel. Originally Posted by Canuk
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2011-07-11, 02:03 PM #10006Stood in the Fire
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That is a really ridiculous claim. =P No computergame comes even close to a good pen-and-paper RPG. Originally Posted by Eightace
The advantage of the dreamer is that he never has to face the chains of reality.
Blackhand[EU] - Mistral
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2011-07-11, 02:03 PM #10007Pandaren Monk
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If they are having to do models and animatons AT THIS STAGE of public closed beta, then they really will have troubles shifting content beyond launch won't they? Originally Posted by Kwrifles
also, for those calling me a TOR and a Troll, I am just a realist, the writers of Dragon Age 2 are writing for this, do you honestly expect it to be good?"Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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2011-07-11, 02:03 PM #10008Dreadlord
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I wonder w hen the moderators are going to realize that thefiend comes in here every here and there to start a flame war about this game only for a few then jumps out again then comes back then out then back then out then back then out etc etc and just bans the fucking jackoff.
No thefiend you're a troll. Why? Because you hop in and out of this thread only to start shit with us purposely. Dude seriously just go back to your GW2 thread and stay there. WE do not come into it to start shit blindly, but yet you're fucking in here like every other week... just grow up and stop. KAY?
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2011-07-11, 02:04 PM #10009The Patient
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Sup guys, long time lurker here
) was just reading ur discussion about the "bringing balance to the force"-thingy. And it was stated by George that in Jedi view bringing balance to the force meant that only light exist. Wasnt sure if u know this or were just jking around :>
20/12/11
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2011-07-11, 02:04 PM #10010The Lightbringer
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Bioware know what they are doing, they have their reasons for their animations.
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Shall we list the games they did well? Originally Posted by The Fiend
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2011-07-11, 02:05 PM #10011Pandaren Monk
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First thing of graphic animation. You need your characters to flow between animations and make sure no limbs are extremely stiff. Have you seen how they "Snap" to animations? Originally Posted by randomone05
World of warcraft may not have the best models, but the character animations are great when you see them flow into each other.
Though warcraft does have some animation skipping problems, it is 6 years old and you don't see these problems in the newer models."Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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2011-07-11, 02:07 PM #10012High Overlord
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Well to be quite honest it's not fair to call yourself a realist when you can obviously see into the future. Originally Posted by The Fiend
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2011-07-11, 02:07 PM #10013Pandaren Monk
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Baldur's Gate 1 ( the engine ) Originally Posted by Eightace
Never winter nights 1 ( the engine )
Kotor 1
Mass effect 1
yeah, they make good engines for their RPGs, the NWN one was especially fun in the editor, but their stories are the EXACT same and Mass effect 2-3 don't even look like RPG games anymore."Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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2011-07-11, 02:08 PM #10014Dreadlord
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Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect would like to have a word with you. Originally Posted by Mistral
and those are just three of the several examples that anyone could give.
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2011-07-11, 02:08 PM #10015Pandaren Monk
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Accurate prediction isn't some arcane science. It's just common sense. Originally Posted by Ratatosk
They already delayed it by months, how do you think they will handle when the release content gets blasted through?
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Dohohohohoho. Originally Posted by Shinoashi
Baldur's gate is just like playing DnD by yourself.
NWN was terrible besides using is as an online DnD game board
and Mass effect isn't even an RPG anymore.
DnD
Shadowrun
Dark heresy
Call of cthulu
Bioware couldn't make things matching these in imagination and depth if they had 5 trillion dollars."Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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2011-07-11, 02:11 PM #10016The Lightbringer
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to stop the moaning, here is the games Bioware have done well IMO. Feel free to disagree.
Baldur's gate
Baldur's gate 2
MDK2
Neverwinter nights
Knights of the old republic
Jade empire
Mass effect
Dragon age Origins
Mass effect 2
I Did not list the expansions for those games, feel free to add them. This company knows what they are doing when it comes to RPG's. It is arrogant to assume you know better than them.
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2011-07-11, 02:12 PM #10017Bloodsail Admiral
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Guys, stop talking to him.
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2011-07-11, 02:13 PM #10018Fluffy Kitten
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a second. I thought SWTOR was a WoW clone in space? Now they are copying a completely unsuccessful MMO in WAR? Originally Posted by The Fiend
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2011-07-11, 02:13 PM #10019Bloodsail Admiral
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hmm. no problems with new models in WoW....guess the clipping of capes and mounts and helmets and weapons just annoys me. and i have only seen 1 minor thing clip in TOR. Originally Posted by The Fiend
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDethsight?feature=guide<---- my youtube channel. Originally Posted by Canuk
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2011-07-11, 02:13 PM #10020Pandaren Monk
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Eightace.
Do not list Baldur's gate and Baldur's gate 2 as something Bioware did ON THEIR OWN.
They made the game engine, Black isle studios did the rest, so if you kindly remove your Bioware fanboy blinders that would be most helpful.
also Mass effect 2 was not an RPG, it was a shooter with RPG elements."Video games are like a fine wine, they often get better with age, well most do alot of them are more like toilet water, they tend to look crappier with age."
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