haste and UP with DW Frost

[Cymorìl]

Can you link profile you used to sim please?

[zox]

KM is not a PPM, depends on haste and hit rating.

As far as I know WOW PPM works (and always have been working) the following way:
It look at your base weapon swing time, and calculates the chance of proccing so that it would equal the PPM. But since it's the base swing time, and you can have haste and you can use swings other than whites, your actual PPM will be higher depending on these factors. Of course missed swings can't proc...

Haven't tested this in a loooong time, so I could be wrong of course.

[Deleted]

See what I used it for back then as a comparison between different specs and stats. It gave me a fairly clear view and the numbers I received were in line with what I had while testing live.

And at the time it was very limited the amount of tools available.

And if about spell hit cap. It's easy to reach I would rather not rely on lucky RNG.

If you lack spell hit you have a chance to miss Rime procs/outbeaks/HBs and you pay such a heavy price in doin so. In return you also gain white attacks with more hit which gives you KM procs. All in all the minor loss in dps is worth it. You might gain 50-100dps but remember that this is when looked at a parse with so much data that it neglects the encounter to encounter based rng.

[Cymorìl]

If you lack spell hit you have a chance to miss Rime procs/outbeaks/HBs and you pay such a heavy price in doin so. In return you also gain white attacks with more hit which gives you KM procs. All in all the minor loss in dps is worth it. You might gain 50-100dps but remember that this is when looked at a parse with so much data that it neglects the encounter to encounter based rng.

I think this is ABC of this game...

[Slagge]

Can you link profile you used to sim please?

http://www.chardev.org/?profile=87010

[Cymorìl]

Ok Slagge these are results I had using your profile

http://img848.imageshack.us/f/75761503.jpg/ running in FP

http://img52.imageshack.us/f/29798440.jpg/ running in UP

[Drunkenvalley]

Sorry, since when did I aim for hit spellcap? I thought they already made Virulence's +9% spellhit innate... which means that when I've got melee hit cap I should already be capped on spells too...?

Or are you saying haste > melee hit cap? o.O

[Deleted]

Sorry, since when did I aim for hit spellcap? I thought they already made Virulence's +9% spellhit innate... which means that when I've got melee hit cap I should already be capped on spells too...?

Or are you saying haste > melee hit cap? o.O

As DW you specc for dual meaning you get +3% hit so when you only need 5% to reach the melee hit cap. Meaning you still need a little way to go to get spell hit capped.

[Slagge]

Ok Slagge these are results I had using your profile

http://img848.imageshack.us/f/75761503.jpg/ running in FP

http://img52.imageshack.us/f/29798440.jpg/ running in UP

Sorry linked the wrong one at first but it does not really matter, thanks a lot for looking into it.

[Cymorìl]

Sorry linked the wrong one at first but it does not really matter, thanks a lot for looking into it.

Try reforge in this way http://www.chardev.org/?profile=87074 and you'll have this result http://img27.imageshack.us/f/maxhaste.jpg/

[Slagge]

If you lack spell hit you have a chance to miss Rime procs/outbeaks/HBs and you pay such a heavy price in doin so. In return you also gain white attacks with more hit which gives you KM procs. All in all the minor loss in dps is worth it. You might gain 50-100dps but remember that this is when looked at a parse with so much data that it neglects the encounter to encounter based rng.

While I can agree on this in theory there will always be a debate if it is worth it or not but as you say, missing a HB (for FF) or Outbreak can be a pain.

---------- Post added 2011-03-28 at 01:51 PM ----------

Try reforge in this way http://www.chardev.org/?profile=87074 and you'll have this result http://img27.imageshack.us/f/maxhaste.jpg/

If you look at http://www.chardev.org/?profile=87010 you see the one I really tried to post from the start

[Drunkenvalley]

As DW you specc for dual meaning you get +3% hit so when you only need 5% to reach the melee hit cap. Meaning you still need a little way to go to get spell hit capped.

/facedesk

Sorry, I had a severe brainfart.