Will this keep me in check for a good while?

[ezek]

How will this fair in upcoming MMO's?

cpu: phenom II X4 965 B.E.
video card: Sapphire HD 6870
HDD: 640GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM
PSU:900w Raidmax 80+ Gold
RAM: 4GB A-Data Gaming Series
MoBo:GigaByte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870

if you need anymore specs just post and ill toss em up

[Nellah]

Upcoming MMOs? Hang on, lemme pull out my crystal ball.

In general, that's a strong system that won't see major slowdowns in most games out there right now. Highly dependent on monitor resolution for the video card, but the processor is strong-ish. (inb4 "BUY AN i5-2500K OR SUCK FOREVER")

Are you building it new? If so, what's your budget?

[Matsujinn]

"BUY AN i5-2500K OR SUCK FOREVER"

Ya know, it's just so true though!

[Asera]

Ya know, it's just so true though!

Yeah even I fell for it.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

[ezek]

Upcoming MMOs? Hang on, lemme pull out my crystal ball.

In general, that's a strong system that won't see major slowdowns in most games out there right now. Highly dependent on monitor resolution for the video card, but the processor is strong-ish. (inb4 "BUY AN i5-2500K OR SUCK FOREVER")

Are you building it new? If so, what's your budget?

just meant am i going to have to upgrade right when games hit this year, or would this be good enough for 2011. I dont have the money to build an i5 sandybridge system, and im an AMD guy

[Asera]

just meant am i going to have to upgrade right when games hit this year, or would this be good enough for 2011. I dont have the money to build an i5 sandybridge system, and im an AMD guy

Honestly, and I hate to say it, you would be better off getting an i3 2100 system.

[Pinkman]

Pretty solid system! If you just play MMOs, you don't need that system, most MMOs are just really bad coded, like Age of Failiure.
The CPU is really solid, if you wan't to play other games than MMOs you should consider buying a nvidia GTX570 or 560 Ti for PhysX/CUDA

[nwo]

Even an i3 2100 would give you 20-50% better fps in MMOs when you compare it against any AMD cpu currently on the market and it costs less than the AMD CPU which you are currently considering.

[Nellah]

Thirded. If you're building it new, an i3-2100 will best the AMD system in many games. Looking at http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289, which is as close to an apples to apples comparison as I can find, the X4 is a match for the i3-2100 in most threaded applications, but World of Warcraft in particular and games in general seem to heavily favor the i3-2100 by as much as 20%.

EDIT: 30-50% is a bit much, that's like i5 levels. The i3-2100 is dual core + hyperthreading, but it is still faster even in many threaded apps.

[Fuzzykins]

If he likes AMD and he's fine with waiting, just let him simmer until Bulldozer comes out. (Assuming it breaks AMD's trend with budget processors that aren't as good, but less expensive, than Intel.)
You know, that brings up a good question. There's only two companies that make CPU's? So much for competition.

[nwo]

EDIT: 30-50% is a bit much, that's like i5 levels. The i3-2100 is dual core + hyperthreading, but it is still faster even in many threaded apps.

Yeah, you're right, the difference is around 20% when you compare WoW and SC2 performance between the i3 2100 and 970BE:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/20

---------- Post added 2011-03-31 at 09:38 PM ----------

You know, that brings up a good question. There's only two companies that make CPU's? So much for competition.

Oligopoly ftw. It would be too hard to enter the desktop CPU market field at this point. You would have to start from scratch and do all the research from the bottom up, and then you can build a customer base. It would take a miracle discovery for a third CPU manufacturer to enter the market.

[Cilraaz]

Oligopoly ftw. It would be too hard to enter the desktop CPU market field at this point. You would have to start from scratch and do all the research from the bottom up, and then you can build a customer base. It would take a miracle discovery for a third CPU manufacturer to enter the market.

Don't forget the horrendous cost to license the x86 patents.

[georgevonfranken]

Oligopoly ftw. It would be too hard to enter the desktop CPU market field at this point. You would have to start from scratch and do all the research from the bottom up, and then you can build a customer base. It would take a miracle discovery for a third CPU manufacturer to enter the market.

Didnt i read somewhere that nvidia was messing around with cpu's but starting on like cell phone cpu's

[ezek]

@fuzzykins: Ya was planning on seeing if Bulldozer is going to "wow" people.

but hey anyways, I'm a content guy, for instance, ive been playing WoW on a Wal-mart special for 4 years, all low settings at 45fps. personally, if i get 60 fps at medium settings, i will just be tickled to death. So being as content as i am, Shadows, ultra texturing, its all just extras that i dont need.

so im assuming with the 965 i will be able to run those settings?

[nwo]

Didnt i read somewhere that nvidia was messing around with cpu's but starting on like cell phone cpu's

I think I heard something similar and as far as I know there is a handful of handheld mobile processor manufacturers but desktops are a whole different story... For now, hopefully... I'm all for a little extra competition.

---------- Post added 2011-03-31 at 10:15 PM ----------

so im assuming with the 965 i will be able to run those settings?

Yeah, you most definitely will be able to.

[georgevonfranken]

I think I heard something similar and as far as I know there is a handful of handheld mobile processor manufacturers but desktops are a whole different story... For now, hopefully... I'm all for a little extra competition.

Hmm i like the wording haha

[Wrestler10307]

Didnt i read somewhere that nvidia was messing around with cpu's but starting on like cell phone cpu's

See nvidia tegra 2

[vesseblah]

Don't forget the horrendous cost to license the x86 patents.

Didnt i read somewhere that nvidia was messing around with cpu's but starting on like cell phone cpu's

Nvidia is developing Ion platform with VIA (the third company besides AMD and Intel who has access to x86 patents), remains to be seen how viable competition it's going to be to Intel Atom and AMD Barzos.