All hail Angwe - the Greatest Wow Player Of All Time

[Matlafous]

Killing 30 lvl lowel player?..meh
Camping 30 lvl lower player only to see him rage?...okey
Camping your own lvl player to see him rage?...better
Camping any lvl DK?.....PRICELESS.....

human/worgen DK?...BONUS POINTS

[Anderzon]

friggin awesome! :3

[Gobra]

Yeh, this doesnt in any way shape or form make him the greatest/best or even slightly the best WoW player at all, you say its about having fun? well having fun by just trying to kill lowbies all the time to ruin their gameplay is kinda sad, its very awesome to piss people off, thats always funny to watch their reactions when they cry like little girls, but it doesnt make him "great"

[seam]

I used to camp lowbies for hours on end, and I never got feared or respected...

But maybe it's cause I would run like a little girl once the 60's started coming. Still though!

[Kindahuge]

I know what will follow from most of you mouthbreathers in support of assholes, but that's k. Yeah, it's a pvp server, so anyone rolling it that isn't prepared to brawl really has it coming. Then again, dishonor points weren't a bad idea at all. When blizzard had nuts, they intended for there to be penalties for people that play the game for the enjoyment of griefing, like Angwe. It was possible, but sooner or later, everyone hated you, npc-wise. Your own faction would attack you on site.

I imagine Angwe would still keep doing what he loves if that were the case, and good for him, but the fact that his sole purpose in the game is fucking up other peoples' playtime, means he should eat some repercussions.

So this is more of a fuck blizzard post than fuck angwe. Although, fuck angwe.

[seam]

I know what will follow from most of you mouthbreathers in support of assholes, but that's k. Yeah, it's a pvp server, so anyone rolling it that isn't prepared to brawl really has it coming. Then again, dishonor points weren't a bad idea at all. When blizzard had nuts, they intended for there to be penalties for people that play the game for the enjoyment of griefing, like Angwe. It was possible, but sooner or later, everyone hated you, npc-wise. Your own faction would attack you on site.

I imagine Angwe would still keep doing what he loves if that were the case, and good for him, but the fact that his sole purpose in the game is fucking up other peoples' playtime, means he should eat some repercussions.

So this is more of a fuck blizzard post than fuck angwe. Although, fuck angwe.

Calm down.

You know this is a game, right? If you are being ganked you can walk away.

[AlysonMeyer]

He sounds like an outright arsehole to me, to be honest. While systematic world PvP is a good idea, corpse camping is another thing. While it can be accepted, his attitude is just pure rotten and his soul is as black as a Tauren's armpit.

Reassuring someone you're going to keep a conversation private and then publishing it is the same as a shrink(or catholic priest) going out to the medias to tell everything they have been told.

[Alphamage]

Playing PVP on a PVP server is what you should do.
First time I hear of this Angwe guy and I have to say that all these posts on his website made me laugh a lot.
I need to say one thing only... ganking lowbies once in a while if they get in your way is cool but camping the whole time in a place where lowbies are just to kill them over and over again just to ruin their game is sick, honorless and boring.
These actions might made this Angwe the most hated player of all times but definitely not the Greatest.
Sitting in a place and killing players 20-30 levels lower than you is something that everyone can do and excuse me but I do not see any greatness in this. It may be fun but definitely not great!

[coldbear]

Killing 30 lvl lowel player?..meh
Camping 30 lvl lower player only to see him rage?...okey
Camping your own lvl player to see him rage?...better
Camping any lvl DK?.....PRICELESS.....

human/worgen DK?...BONUS POINTS

100 Dead Death Knights ------->>>> http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=116197

[Majad]

it seems to me he is just a sad kid with no life and no friends.. its simple as that

He is in a pvp server and he is killing people questing etc, low level or not he can kill who ever he wants

[plaguedout]

Oh god i remeber trying dodge this guy on my toon when i leveled my first toon....



P.s. Uggorrr! Hahahaha i found you!

[valden83]

While I have to say that this guy goes a bit too far for what its worth, I still thoroughly enjoyed reading all those responses and posts about him lol.

Just another reason why I will never roll a pvp server, lol I don't have time to get ganked.

[Fenixdown]

Well, these forums are a horrible place to make the kind of arguments that I tend to make because I would venture that fun is not a zero sum equation.

It is my estimation that those that see "fun" as a zero sum equation are sociopathic. We see these behaviors as celebrating the 'asshole', frustrating others, making others angry or in some way belligerently pursuing a course of action that borders on sadistic. It is not schadenfreude. It is not merely observing the misfortune of others and taking joy (like laughing when someone falls down some stairs). No, this is the purposeful infliction of grief for their joy.

In a social game, it is anti-social behavior. It is the justification for the digital bully.

I have heard tons of rationales for it and I buy none of them.

I didn't roll on a PvP server even before I knew the difference because I started playing this game as an older person with children (I'm older than 40, let's just leave it at that). I certainly didn't have any faith that folks on a PvP server would either A) have any concern for defending lowbie characters or B) that there would be any social barriers in game preventing players from simply smashing weak lowbie toons in the face. Both turned out to be true. Even for my friends who enjoyed world PvP, it was the anti-social behavior of the griefers and such that ruined the spirit of it.

Basically, what could have been fun was turned into a miserable chore because some miserable folks wanted to share their misery.

And that's the clue. When someone outright says, "The sole source of my fun is from misery like yours," that's an unhappy person.

I've been on a PvP server and ganked. I was fine with it. Never had a problem with it. What I had a problem with were individuals who specificallly thought that it was acceptable to turn the fun of world pvp into a venue for dispensing grief and misery and then reveling in it.

Oh, and I read the Angwe page. That was unconscionable what he did at the end. Completely wrong. He specifically said he wouldn't publish and then outed a toon as a pre-op transgender person. Not only is that NOT hilarious, but it further illustrates that his intent isn't to be "funny", but to inflict actual and real distress and pain.

I enjoy playing with people who really celebrate fun.

I've played with a few people who've never said a cross word against anyone, including during progression when it seems everyone gets cross. They spread joy and grace and kind words and make it fun to log in even when the bosses or the game seem tedious.

But I fear this thread is about celebrating the gankers, griefers and folks of that ilk. Not only would I contest that he and those like him aren't the greatest anything with respect to WoW, but they are a scourge and a large part of why there isn't any real World PvP anymore.

This guy is the greatest WoW player ever. The proof is in the quote. Because he plays a socially active game for social purposes.

Also, he understands what world PvP COULD have become if not for the people who completely ruined it for everyone. It's like when everyone is having a snowball fight, and they're all having a good time, til the retard that shows up goes "LOOK I PUT ROCKS IN MINE! I'M HAVING FUN!".

And I agree on that last thing he posted. Holy shit dude. What if that guy gets so much crap he literally kills himself? Or her. Honestly, I have no idea how that stuff works, but either way you get the idea. Oh, let me guess. You all would just laugh that someone committed suicide.

Buncha sad, sick people you are. And everyone wonders why the world is going to turn into a real life version of "Idiocracy". Hell, it's close to being there already. You're all living proof.

[Jaxi]

Paying for two accounts? That's a bit more than I would ever do. Still, it was pretty funny.

[Xenofreak]

Ad hominem attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I think you need to realize what this topic says, "Angwe is the greatest WoW player of all time." So saying Angwe was simply a ganker and troll isn't ad hominem.

1. Don't be on a pvp server if you don't like unfair pvp.
2. Call friends.
3. Make friends.
4. Call guildies.
5. Find someplace else to level.
6. Corpse-run towards guards. Then hearth or get summoned.
7. Always be in a queue of one sort or another.
8. Level another character.
9. Network with people facing the same problem.
10. Die in the water where the boat docks. Then rez inside the boat just as it leaves. If someone kills you on a ship or zep, don't release - you'll be auto-resurrected as soon as it zones out. Then don't release til you get to your destination.

1. A little ganking is one thing, but for hours for the express purpose of pissing people off? It's called griefing for a reason.
2-4. Sure.
5. This was vanilla, there wasn't exactly a plethora of ways to level.
6. Sure.
7. So wait, the player in vanilla that were out in the Wetlands were supposed to be queued for something?
8. Again, in this situation, vanilla, do they have another character, or is this people leveling their first?
9. Sure.
10. Sure.

Whether you find his antics amusing or not, he was a griefer and a troll. Sure, you may take amusement in seeing people ruin other people's fun, and sure some of those people take the game too seriously, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to agree and think it's praiseworthy to take the fun out of the game for others.

[Matlafous]

100 Dead Death Knights ------->>>> http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=116197

Thanks for the link

[Dumbnut]

Other than his stupid responses, I enjoyed it. Although, it would've been a LOT funnier if he actually replied like a decent person and at the same time gained some respect by being nice to them (except for the ganking, but I know if I ever get camped by a person who's at least nice in /w, I don't really mind it.)

[spiritmoo]

Someone who killed vastly inferior people for hours a day, payed for two accounts to be able to take screenshots of people who couldn't bare with it, and replied to them with bad comebacks, is the greatest WoW player of all time?
Sure, whatever floats your boat Mr.

I paid 5k gold for 1800 rating about a year ago and haven't set foot in arena since

. ^^

[coldbear]

I think you need to realize what this topic says, "Angwe is the greatest WoW player of all time." So saying Angwe was simply a ganker and troll isn't ad hominem.

1. A little ganking is one thing, but for hours for the express purpose of pissing people off? It's called griefing for a reason.
2-4. Sure.
5. This was vanilla, there wasn't exactly a plethora of ways to level.
6. Sure.
7. So wait, the player in vanilla that were out in the Wetlands were supposed to be queued for something?
8. Again, in this situation, vanilla, do they have another character, or is this people leveling their first?
9. Sure.
10. Sure.

Whether you find his antics amusing or not, he was a griefer and a troll. Sure, you may take amusement in seeing people ruin other people's fun, and sure some of those people take the game too seriously, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to agree and think it's praiseworthy to take the fun out of the game for others.

An angry child... annoying asshole who should duel people his own level

Calling someone an angry child and annoying asshole is not an ad hominem attack? I'll give you the annoying part, he certainly was that, to people who don't belong on pvp servers.

1. If someone is repeatedly ganked for hours they are on the wrong server type. All you have to do is rez at the max distance from your corpse in the direction of the nearest guards or inn.
5. This was classic, there was only two WAYS to level, by questing or grinding. Either could be accomplished in at least two different zones. If you don't like Wetlands, try the similar-level zone on the other continent. Angwe stayed in Menethil Harbor. He can't be in two places at once.
7. Queue for BGs depending on level. Which wasn't available when Angwe started his reign of terror, but later became available, and now is from level 10ish?
8. If a person has made one character they can make another. While leveling on one of the most griefer- and ganker-infested servers in wow history (US-Laughing Skull), I always had at least one alt that I could log onto and have a bit of mindless fun if things got too hot on my main where I wanted to quest. It wasn't terribly hard to figure out when server primetime was either, and then just make sure not to hit the high-population zones at that time. I.e., don't be a dumbo and level in Searing Gorge as Alliance during primetime, when all the Horde are running through on their way to BRD, UBRS, MC and BWL. That's just idiotic suicide.

He's not taking the fun out of the game for anyone other than the people who want to play on a pvp server but not have anyone attack them if it's not "fair" or they're not ready, or they don't have the advantage, or they're not equal level. I.e., people who don't belong on pvp servers. He became the server's mascot, and you can see plenty of tells he got from Alliance on his server who thought it was funny as hell.

He's pvp'ing. Since when is that a crime on a pvp server? How is it griefing to kill someone who has consented to being killable on a pvp server ruleset? That person clicked "Pvp server" when he or she first made the character.

The only real problem I can see here is that Pvp servers maybe should be called "Unfair Pvp" servers to make it abundantly clear that it's open season. Plus clicking the "Pvp server" icon should really pop up a notification like "Are you really sure you want other players to be able to attack you anywhere, at any time?" If they made that change I would fully support it. Fun is always best when it's fully informed consent. Which it sort of is right now, but it could be more obvious.

---------- Post added 2011-04-07 at 05:45 PM ----------

Someone who killed vastly inferior people for hours a day, payed for two accounts to be able to take screenshots of people who couldn't bare with it, and replied to them with bad comebacks, is the greatest WoW player of all time?
Sure, whatever floats your boat Mr.. ^^

ROLF. I have a stalker!

/bow

In case it wasn't completely clear from me saying it twice in the OP, this is just my opinion. Am I allowed to have an opinion?

Nvm, probably shouldn't ask that here.

[Mirrass]

Brilliant lol all those people that threw fits like that should not have een on a pvp server to start with its just that simple. If you can't handle getting ganked as a lowbie you should just pick a pve server before you get too invested in that server cause it won't get better once you are level cap and in zones with all the other high level toons.