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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbles View Post
    sure, but Nashville has the best defence in the league... =p
    Weber + Rinne does not make the best defense in the league.

    You can tell WoW changed the MMO for good when players started complaining about the amount of time they sink, into a time sink.

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    Well, an update to the Blackhawks roster is that Brian Bickell under went tendon surgey yesterday morning and will be out for 6-8 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knails View Post
    So excited for Game 7 tonight!!! Going to Buffalo Wild Wings to get some Food, Drinks & Hockey! Can't F'n Wait!
    Lucky... I have a night class.... two game 7s and I get stuck with sociology! Never go to college kids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    Lucky... I have a night class.... two game 7s and I get stuck with sociology! Never go to college kids!
    PFFT, i have a final fucking exam. at 745 at night, what horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irony View Post
    Weber + Rinne does not make the best defense in the league.
    Who do you think has the best Defense in the league? I would vote maybe Detroit... Good defense? Check!!!. Solid goalie? Check.He might not be up for the vezina and I don't think hes anything spectacular but he gets the job done and is consistent which is very important to know what you are getting every night. Experience? Check. good 2 way forwards? Check Other than Detroit I'd say Nashville, Boston, Montreal are pretty good too when you think about the whole team helping out. I'm probably forgetting some teams but those came to the top of my head. Did this without stats as I don't think they tell the whole story and this is more focused for playoffs then a regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    Who do you think has the best Defense in the league? I would vote maybe Detroit... Good defense? Check!!!. Solid goalie? Check.He might not be up for the vezina and I don't think hes anything spectacular but he gets the job done and is consistent which is very important to know what you are getting every night. Experience? Check. good 2 way forwards? Check Other than Detroit I'd say Nashville, Boston, Montreal are pretty good too when you think about the whole team helping out. I'm probably forgetting some teams but those came to the top of my head. Did this without stats as I don't think they tell the whole story and this is more focused for playoffs then a regular season.
    Howard? Solid Goalie? Does not Compute. he gives up softys like its christmas. but yeah, Lidstrom is hands down the best defenseman in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    Rooting for the Blackhawks, if only because the prospect of having two NHL seasons in a row with a 3-0 comeback series is just amazing. They're going to have to play with much better offense tonight if they want to win it, though! Looking forward to the game.
    If Chicago wins tonight they will get Detoit. How is that for a congratulation lol If they make it to the finals they will go through a real gauntlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelos11 View Post
    Howard? Solid Goalie? Does not Compute. he gives up softys like its christmas. but yeah, Lidstrom is hands down the best defenseman in the league.
    Ok maybe I was being a bit nice there but I would take him over Luongo and hes up for the Vezina? What?

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    imo all the vezina candidates this year are terribly overrated.. but maybe that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelos11 View Post
    Howard? Solid Goalie? Does not Compute. he gives up softys like its christmas. but yeah, Lidstrom is hands down the best defenseman in the league.
    Think we had this discussion earlier in the thread. In his two years in the league, Howard is a top 10 goalie, possibly even top 6. Every goalie gives up soft goals. This only serves to hurt you though if you play on a poor offensive team. Howard doesn't. His GAA even with his Christmas gift softies is 2.5 over two seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooblez View Post
    imo all the vezina candidates this year are terribly overrated.. but maybe that's just me.
    The only goalie that really stood out this year was Thomas other than the that the choice flet sorta lackluster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    If Chicago wins tonight they will get Detoit. How is that for a congratulation lol If they make it to the finals they will go through a real gauntlet.

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    Ok maybe I was being a bit nice there but I would take him over Luongo and hes up for the Vezina? What?

    If the Hawks win they play the Sharks...

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    SO who do you guys think wins the following Trophies?
    GM of the Year: Going to have to go with Stevie Y. took a team that wasnt in the playoffs to into the playoffs.
    Vezina: Thomas, was there ever any doubt?
    Rookie of the Year: Couture
    Lady Bing: Hoping Lidstrom but i think St Louis locks it up.
    Lidstrom Trophy: The name speaks for itself, with Weber as a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    If Chicago wins tonight they will get Detoit. How is that for a congratulation lol If they make it to the finals they will go through a real gauntlet.

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    Ok maybe I was being a bit nice there but I would take him over Luongo and hes up for the Vezina? What?
    false. Detroit will not play the Hawks. let me reestablish this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelos11 View Post
    LA even had that god awful of a call for a 5 minute MAJOR and could not finish it off.

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    Western Conference Semi Finals Scenarios
    If Vancouver Beats Chicago
    (1)Vancouver versus (5)Nashville
    (2)San Jose versus (3)Detroit

    If Chicago Beats Vancouver
    (2)San Jose versus (8)Chicago
    (3)Detroit versus (5)Nashville

    these are the only two possible scenarios left.
    Again, these are your potential matchups for WCSF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooblez View Post
    imo all the vezina candidates this year are terribly overrated.. but maybe that's just me.
    Except for Thomas I agree. Thomas has a record breaking season this year. His GAA and SV% are freaking remarkable in the new NHL. His stats this year broke dead puck era records from the Dominator. Rinne is a decent candidate as he had a great season. How Luongo got on there in place of King Henrik is beyond me though. What the f*ck does Lundqvist have to do to win won of these things? A third of his freaking wins were shut outs. He has to put the Rangers on his back night in and night out as the team is sabotaged by overpaid, under performing free agent signings and a ridiculously porous defense.

    Then again, Cam Ward did have incredibly similar stats to Lundqvist except for his higher GAA. Could have had something to do with Cam facing about 400 shots this season. That is basically 15-18 ex games worth of shots. And people wonder why Carolina didn't make the playoffs. Hi, my name is defense.

    My award picks that have had candidates announced so far:
    Vezina: Tim Thomas, shouldn't even be close in voting

    Masterson: Emery

    GM Award: Yzerman, and not because I am a Wings fan. Nope not at all.

    Lady Byng: Lidstrom. He has been up for the award numerous times and hasn't won it. The most consistent D-man in the league by far. Never handicaps his team with penalties, always plays with class and has for 20 years.

    Norris: Lidstrom. If for no other reason that his swan song. His final season, there is no way he doesn't win the award. Weber is certainly a deserving candidate, but he is stuck in a bad spot with Lidstrom likely done after this season. Incredible offensive year, the top QualCom score in the league by about 50%, which by the way is fucking insane.

    Calder: I think Couture deserves it. Hell they all deserve it. Grabner plays on the Islanders who are just horrible defensively and he managed a +13 as a forward. Skinner is a pop star in Raleigh and has been a ridiculous source of enthusiasm on and off the ice. If the NHL was smart, their marketing department would jump on his bandwagon right now. They aren't though so expect more Crosby ads, superhero themed campaigns, etc.
    Not yet announced:
    Selke: Has to be Kesler this season with Datsyuk hurt. Nearly stole it from him last season. Wouldn't doubt he gets his this year.
    Adams: My vote would certainly go to Dave Tippett with the constant shitstream he has to deal with in Phoenix with the relocation debacle that Bettman has put them in. Vancouver's coach will probably win though as they had a great season and I think were tops in man games lost.
    Clancy: Who knows. I think Lidstrom was the Wings nominee and I really wouldn't be surprised if he got it for dedication to service and the game over two decades.
    Messier: Again, totally up in the air as it can be anyone. Another award I wouldn't doubt that Lidstrom wins as he was the team captain, had his best offensive year, and with his off ice work in Detroit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conscript View Post
    Except for Thomas I agree. Thomas has a record breaking season this year. His GAA and SV% are freaking remarkable in the new NHL. His stats this year broke dead puck era records from the Dominator. Rinne is a decent candidate as he had a great season. How Luongo got on there in place of King Henrik is beyond me though. What the f*ck does Lundqvist have to do to win won of these things? A third of his freaking wins were shut outs. He has to put the Rangers on his back night in and night out as the team is sabotaged by overpaid, under performing free agent signings and a ridiculously porous defense.

    Then again, Cam Ward did have incredibly similar stats to Lundqvist except for his higher GAA. Could have had something to do with Cam facing about 400 shots this season. That is basically 15-18 ex games worth of shots. And people wonder why Carolina didn't make the playoffs. Hi, my name is defense.
    the thing that erks me is that two of the Norris finalists have a Vezina finalist behind them, so is it the goaltending or the defense? you know what i mean?

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    Finally someone uses the Second Amendment for what it was meant for: Shooting people who do stuff you don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lune View Post
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    pfft. you guys got the RANGERS in the first round and failed to sweep....

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    I'm going to be downtown watching the game... So I'll be in the thick of things win or lose.

    Go Canucks!
    I remember it all too well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xevan View Post
    I'm going to be downtown watching the game... So I'll be in the thick of things win or lose.

    Go Canucks!
    for your sake i hope they win. i would hate to see the riot if they complete the blow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Ha! No.



    My point was that Toronto fans pay out the wazoo to see their team never make the playoffs. Being the most valuable team, while making no playoff revenue, means all their other sources of revenue are overpriced. Toronto fans get the least bang for their buck.

    At least Phoenix fans get what they paid for. Nothing.

    its how the nhl is right now... can only do so much, and when they started to rebuild it was kinda of expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelos11 View Post
    the thing that erks me is that two of the Norris finalists have a Vezina finalist behind them, so is it the goaltending or the defense? you know what i mean?
    Certainly a combination of both. Is it a coincidence that the year Chara won the Norris, Thomas won the Vezina. Almost certainly not. In the respect of who is behind them, Lidstrom certainly has an advantage as the other two are backed by Vezina goalies. In the respect of who is in front and around him, I'm not so sure that Chara and Weber don't have huge advantages. Quick, name another Nashville D-man. The Bruins at least have Kaberla (yes a late season addition) and Boychuck and Ferrence. The Preds have Ryan Suter. The Wings on the other hand have a hall of famer in Rafalski, ridiculous talent in Stuart and Kronwall along with great youth D. They also have two of the top five defensive forwards in the game, and that isn't including Helm so maybe 3 of the top 15.

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