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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    It sounds little different from the "fatigue" system of the Elder Scrolls series, which IMO was a good system and I think it'll add a much more immersive feeling to MMOs, removing the sort of "sleepless, untiring robot juggernaut" feeling that can develop when you can literally down EVERYTHING in one night.
    Fatigue mattered at the beginning of most ES games, and then once you got passed level 20 you could grab a daedric war hammer and swing to your hearts content...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan Khan View Post
    About quests - or no quests - there will be npc's around the gameworld with green starbursts over their heads, that indicate that this person will help your personal story move along.

    There will also be "scouts" around the gameworld that you can talk to, that will point you in a general direction of where the action is often found, like close to dynamic events.

    If you just run around and explore, you might see an npc running towards you, screaming for you to help a city or something. You can chose to talk to the npc for more info, but you dont have to do that. If you see a town burning you can just ignore the screaming npc and just run to the town and immidiatly be a part of the event.

    Edit: Also, some events - or even chains of events - can be started by you out of curiosity picking up a rock in the wilderness, and it turns out some nasty creature had his home under that rock. There really are a lot of ways to start events, and I don't think they are going to tell us all about it. I get the feeling they wanna leave some stuff out, for cool surprises to be found out by the players themselfs.
    So if you come in contact with a situation then it automatically starts what if you have to log? If you don't save a burning city and have to log off when you come back is everyone going to be dead and you'll miss out on being able to experience that dynamic event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    So if you come in contact with a situation then it automatically starts what if you have to log? If you don't save a burning city and have to log off when you come back is everyone going to be dead and you'll miss out on being able to experience that dynamic event?
    Other people will either succeed or fail to extinguish the burning city. They might even help reconstruct the city before you are back online.

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    Druxray: Short answer, Yes, you will miss out. But lets say you missed something and a town got taken over by bad guys, then that will kick off a new and different event that you can take part in. The events dont give loot, they give karma points, so it dosent matter what events you chose to take part in.

    But eventually a chain of events will get to it's end if no one does something to stop it or reverse it, and then at some point down the line the chain will restart. So if you missed out one time, you might bump into it next time you're in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conqq View Post
    There's quite a bit wrong I noticed in your thread, but 2 main things that bugged me:

    Yes, there are quests. and no, it is not an OPEN persistent world but closed
    The only quests are in personal story, so it's not your average quest. It is an persistent world just like WoW is, the large areas are instanced off. It's not comfirmed yet if there will be portals seperating the zones on the live game since so far they have been in the demo with no entry signs on them.

    Check sources: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/game-faq/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druxray View Post
    So if you come in contact with a situation then it automatically starts what if you have to log? If you don't save a burning city and have to log off when you come back is everyone going to be dead and you'll miss out on being able to experience that dynamic event?
    You will miss out on the DE you don't finish, but like above poster said, you will be able to experience the aftermath of it. Weather it be the town was taken over by bandits, or the event previous to the burning of the town etc. You should still recieve a reward for been part of that DE though when you log back in.
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    I would kindly request to add this extremely well made fan video which sums up why Guild Wars 2 is looking to break the MMO-mold and all the things it will revolutionize in the genre. The video is Not made by me, all credit goes to the respective author of the video.

    GW2 - Top 10 reasons why you SHOULD care
    ww w. youtube .com / watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs&feature=channel_video_title (--->can't post links yet so just remove the spaces)

    Edit: thank you for linking, though i meant to add it to the opening post
    Edit2: didn't notice,apologies for re-linking then, still an awesome vid tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix123 View Post
    I would kindly request to add this extremely well made fan video which sums up why Guild Wars 2 is looking to break the MMO-mold and all the things it will revolutionize in the genre. The video is Not made by me, all credit goes to the respective author of the video.

    GW2 - Top 10 reasons why you SHOULD care
    ww w. youtube .com / watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs&feature=channel_video_title (--->can't post links yet so just remove the spaces)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBC_i...el_video_title
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix123 View Post
    I would kindly request to add this extremely well made fan video which sums up why Guild Wars 2 is looking to break the MMO-mold and all the things it will revolutionize in the genre. The video is Not made by me, all credit goes to the respective author of the video.

    GW2 - Top 10 reasons why you SHOULD care
    ww w. youtube .com / watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs&feature=channel_video_title (--->can't post links yet so just remove the spaces)
    You know its on page 13 post # 244 right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgevonfranken View Post
    You know its on page 13 post # 244 right?
    SHH! Don't steal my thunder for being nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix123 View Post
    I would kindly request to add this extremely well made fan video which sums up why Guild Wars 2 is looking to break the MMO-mold and all the things it will revolutionize in the genre. The video is Not made by me, all credit goes to the respective author of the video.

    GW2 - Top 10 reasons why you SHOULD care
    ww w. youtube .com / watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs&feature=channel_video_title (--->can't post links yet so just remove the spaces)

    Edit: thank you for linking, though i meant to add it to the opening post
    Edit2: didn't notice,apologies for re-linking then, still an awesome vid tho!
    you're too kind
    Top 10 Reasons to be Interested in Guild Wars 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanyKong View Post
    Can you point to me where the original post mentioned an OPEN persistent world and there are no quests (Period)? Because I'm quite sure it just said "Persistent World" and "No quests besides personal story."
    I was correcting the OP, he states both of those things in BRIGHT RED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow946 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs


    This game is definitely worth paying attention to.
    The video isn't a contest entry, I was still editing it when they announced that.

    Let me know what you think!
    That video was excellent!
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    Great video, I wish the guy had more footage to work with, but it was informative ,pretty much stated what most of us were already saying. I really can't wait for more new info to be released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conqq View Post
    I was correcting the OP, he states both of those things in BRIGHT RED.
    I don't think you understand what an open persistent world is. It is not like GW1's world where it was a closed world, like I said above GW2 is an open persistent world like WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgevonfranken View Post
    You know its on page 13 post # 244 right?
    I managed to miss it on that page (don't know how, been following this thread pretty closely), so I appreciate the re-post, at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by conqq View Post
    I was correcting the OP, he states both of those things in BRIGHT RED.
    Except what you say isn't right.
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    People who no nothing about the game keep posting that it is not persistent because they think just cause the first one wasn't GW2 won't be. The game is no longer completely instanced, the only instanced areas are dungeons and personal story. Watch some videos, read up, and get facts before posting completely false statements.

    Persistent world: A persistent world (PW) is a virtual world that continues to exist even after a user exits the world and that user-made changes to its state are, to some extent, permanent. Check

    Open World: An open world is a type of video game level design concept where a player can freely roam a virtual world. Check

    GW2 is open world and persistent, end of discussion.
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    Don't get me wrong, I want GW2 to succeed, I know I'll be playing it, but I fear for this game.

    After EQ, EQ2, WoW, Rift, Aion, Age of Conan, and many other games I haven't even mentioned, I think consumers are tired of high-fantasy MMO's. This is where ToR's power is going to come from. Other than SW:G which has been defunct for years, EVE, and ST:O, there isn't a Sci-Fi MMO IP out there at the moment.

    Again, I hope I'm wrong. I hope to god I'm wrong, but I just see consumers going "Alright, I'm done with 10 years of the same old fantasy shit. Time to move on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotpriest View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I want GW2 to succeed, I know I'll be playing it, but I fear for this game.

    After EQ, EQ2, WoW, Rift, Aion, Age of Conan, Rift, and many other games I haven't even mentioned, I think consumers are tired of high-fantasy MMO's. This is where ToR's power is going to come from. Other than SW:G which has been defunct for years, EVE, and ST:O, there isn't a Sci-Fi MMO IP out there at the moment.

    Again, I hope I'm wrong. I hope to god I'm wrong, but I just see consumers going "Alright, I'm done with 10 years of the same old fantasy shit. Time to move on."
    Your fears are understandable, but I know a lot of people(even friends in rl) who play WoW and honestly are just going crazy about GW2, plus guild wars had and has a large fanbase already so i'm not that worried for the game, i could easily see it sitting at about 1 million + people buying and playing it easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotpriest View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I want GW2 to succeed, I know I'll be playing it, but I fear for this game.

    After EQ, EQ2, WoW, Rift, Aion, Age of Conan, and many other games I haven't even mentioned, I think consumers are tired of high-fantasy MMO's. This is where ToR's power is going to come from. Other than SW:G which has been defunct for years, EVE, and ST:O, there isn't a Sci-Fi MMO IP out there at the moment.

    Again, I hope I'm wrong. I hope to god I'm wrong, but I just see consumers going "Alright, I'm done with 10 years of the same old fantasy shit. Time to move on."
    Not sure why you think people are tired of "high fantasy" if anything people are tired of all MMO's being pretty much the same - which is why I'm not going to try any new MMO again... ever again (I tried pretty much everything), unless it's scope is completely different. IF I am picking up a standard MMO again it will be WoW.

    Also I play fantasy games exclusively, the last non fantasy game I played was probably Doom 2.
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