1. #30141
    Since we are talking about bots, here is an article that should open peoples eyes about the problem

    http://www.guildwars2hub.com/feature...s-and-exploits

    After reading that I get the feeling that if anything makes this game fail it will be this. Could be similar to Lineage 2.

  2. #30142
    le uh-oh


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  3. #30143
    Pretty sad seeing this after Anet being mental with throwing bans left and right at the very beginning.
    The Le Fuck? :X

  4. #30144
    Quote Originally Posted by Rapti View Post
    Pretty sad seeing this after Anet being mental with throwing bans left and right at the very beginning.
    The Le Fuck? :X
    Haha, so true.

    Some people i know got banned for a swear word in general chat, but hacks seem to be no problem.

  5. #30145
    No, it was good they came out the gate hard with bans on what was unacceptable behavior. That is also a lot easier and more direct to deal with than bots and exploiting.

    It's obvious botting/hacks are not okay. And I don;'t think Anet would ever take that stance. Getting rid of botters is simply not as quick a process.

    I do hope they get a handle on this soon though.

  6. #30146
    Some people i know got banned for a swear word in general chat, but hacks seem to be no problem.
    Yeah, it's pretty silly. I'm still afraid of getting banned for any number of things that I'd consider normal in other MMO's, but then I see the exact same farmers in the exact same spots auto-firing that exact same shortbow and I think, "Really? My cat could look at this guy and realize he's a bot in 5 seconds, don't tell me it's "difficult" for A.Net to see it after 100 reports on it."

    Anyway. I hate to sound like the bad guy/devils advocate, but I look at a game that basically tells you that the ultimate goal is to just farm up massive amounts of stuff and I think, "Well, they kinda asked for these hacks like these to become popular."

    It'd be one thing if they hadn't done things like disallow trading, disallow CoD mail, and put a completely ball-busting sale fee on a Trading Post while at the same time making damn near every item in the game disgustingly common so making any margin on stuff is a huge challenge. Along with all the little things, like taking a waypoint anywhere in the game at level 80 costs more than completing an event in Orr. At a certain point you understand why people feel like saying, "Nyah, screw you guys, BRB with 500% MF hax."

  7. #30147
    It's not the problem of banning the individual account, because then a bot will show up somewhere else. It's going out of their way to find out what lets the bot work, what doesn't, and break it hardcore, THEN ban all associated accounts. Because just banning hte single account in and of itself does nothing to stop the problem that botting is prevalent, and people doing it will just keep on doing it.


    Two completely different things. Completely.

    And I've never been banned myself, despite the things I say. I'm not scared, I just don't feel the need to attack someone with things I wouldn't say to their face without expecting someone to try and stab me if I did. Things like "moron" have crept back into my vocabulary with a significant usage and there's no problem. Occasional cuss words? No problem. Really.

    There's a pretty big difference between what they were banning for, and what fearmongers wanted you to think they were banning for.
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  8. #30148
    So if what "mr.assguy" posted is true, then we can expect Isles of Janthir. Mursaat and Saul anyone?

    Also, PvE game mode?

  9. #30149
    Isn't Saul like... dead?

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  10. #30150
    It's not the problem of banning the individual account, because then a bot will show up somewhere else. It's going out of their way to find out what lets the bot work, what doesn't, and break it hardcore, THEN ban all associated accounts. Because just banning hte single account in and of itself does nothing to stop the problem that botting is prevalent, and people doing it will just keep on doing it.


    Two completely different things. Completely.
    I understand that, it's just that you'd think they could remove the same bots that have been sitting there day in and day out. Sure, they might get replaced, but it does nothing for the morale of the players when they see the exact same bots in the exact same places day in and day out with seemingly no interest taken at all from A.Net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    Isn't Saul like... dead?

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    "Q" is right where it needs to be. Perfect keybind for it.
    Last time I stumbled across his graveyard Saul d'alessios grave was empty... Or at least his corpse disappeared for an unknown reason... it's pretty clear that he's coming back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    Isn't Saul like... dead?

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    "Q" is right where it needs to be. Perfect keybind for it.
    Nope, well at least not last time i checked, maybe something happend during the 250 year though.

  13. #30153
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    There's a pretty big difference between what they were banning for, and what fearmongers wanted you to think they were banning for.
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    Isn't Saul like... dead?
    Not quite.

    The Mantle "buried" Saul. But Saul was taken by the Unseen Ones at the end of the battle. It was in the bonus mission pack.

    The true fate of Saul is unknown. We only know 1. what happened at the Charr encampment 2. that the mantle covered it all up and made Saul a martyr.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-25 at 05:46 PM ----------

    After defeating the Charr, the Unseen Ones turned on those who had moments earlier worshiped them as their gods and murdered them then disappeared. They took Saul, in whom they had imbued their most powerful magic, with them. Only a handful survived. Those who remained, who had been deemed most devoted, told the Krytans that Saul was killed by Charr during their retreat back over the Shiverpeak Mountains.

    Saul has not been seen since.

    Sometime before his disappearance, he formed a special edict for the Temple of the Ages to be unchanged by the Unseen faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozerjun View Post
    Well Aion was just as bad when I played. But yeah, botting is the number one issue of the game I feel. I'm not sure if people realize how insidious it is, especially the economy of the game.
    Exactly. Bots in GW2 remind scarily much of the bots in Aion a couple of months after release. I really do hope Anet plans to spend some of their cash on battling the gold farmers, cause it sure as hell does not look good as it is now. I am leveling a warrior now and in most low level zones I see a bot party of rangers farming happily at all the botting event hotspots.

    My hopes were high after seeing how realistic and reasonable Anet responded to bots shortly after launch, especially after seeing greedy Blizzard employing PR instead of actual action against bots for so many years, but at this point I think no gaming company really wants to spend substantial money on keeping their game clean.

  15. #30155
    Why is it that every time I go to play some GW2 I have to download some giant update? I normally only play once a week, and while I understand that MMOs will always need frequent maintenance and new sorts of bugs pop up from time to time, but at this point shouldn't it be mostly stable and low maintenance?
    But look at how soon we're all forgotten. The abyss of endless time that swallows it all. The emptiness of those applauding hands.

  16. #30156
    The update is for the Halloween event

  17. #30157
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozerjun View Post
    The update is for the Halloween event
    Ah! good to know, I was a bit annoyed at having to download this much.
    But look at how soon we're all forgotten. The abyss of endless time that swallows it all. The emptiness of those applauding hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    "Q" is right where it needs to be. Perfect keybind for it.
    I knew there was a good reason I liked you.

    *also has dodge on Q*

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    What's wrong with "V"? Easier to access IMO. But then, my fingers might be weird. :I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maythael View Post
    What's wrong with "V"? Easier to access IMO. But then, my fingers might be weird. :I
    If V feels comfortable for you then there's nothing wrong with it. ^^

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