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    The following post contains stuff about SW:TOR, among others, if you're going to bash said game, please skip my post

    I pre-ordered SW:TOR a few days ago, was looking at the guild recruitment thread over at the swtor subsection of mmo-champ (more commonly known as "The dark side" ) and I realized that I really didn't want to go trough all the application/Raid days/weekly attendance crap all over again.

    Don't get me wrong I'll play SW:TOR and expect it to be great, but after raiding rather hardcore in WOW, I'm really not up for starting a new game, spending hours upon hours to reach max level, grind generic raid 1, wait for content patch, grind generic raid 2, ...

    I'm really thrilled that GW2 is taking a different approach, with no raiding, where you won't HAVE to be online at 7 pm to raid till half past 12 3-4 days in a week.
    I want to log in, help a guy feed squirrels to his oversized dog, and in the middle of that process, get stomped by a huge dragon set to destroy all nornmanity.

    I want a game, not a second job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvbastel View Post
    help a guy feed squirrels to his oversized dog
    I'd rather help the squirrels escape

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvbastel View Post
    I want to log in, help a guy feed squirrels to his oversized dog, and in the middle of that process, get stomped by a huge dragon set to destroy all nornmanity.
    I hope that is a DE, as I'd camp it. :P

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    I get what you are saying JV, but that's a matter of personal choice. You don't have to be in a guild that does that stuff. =)

    Also, don't doubt for a minute that GW2 will have the same type of guilds that have scheduled play sessions to go and knock out DEs and dungeons or PvP. While it might not be the gear grind type of play, there will still be competitive groupings to do things. And you'll still have many people playing it like a second job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mif View Post
    I'd rather help the squirrels escape
    I'd take em for myself. Squeexplosion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mif View Post
    I'd rather help the squirrels escape
    Then raise a squirrel army to assault the dog!

    Dynamic events are awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsbane View Post
    I get what you are saying JV, but that's a matter of personal choice. You don't have to be in a guild that does that stuff. =)

    Also, don't doubt for a minute that GW2 will have the same type of guilds that have scheduled play sessions to go and knock out DEs and dungeons or PvP. While it might not be the gear grind type of play, there will still be competitive groupings to do things. And you'll still have many people playing it like a second job.
    Agreed, GW2, like GW1 will have its "be online at that time" stuff. I was in a semi-pro pvp guild in GW1, and we would do GvG (8vs8 guild pvp) every day, so yeah, while it has its hardcore stuff like WoW/etc, There's a big difference between the 2, To raid efficiently in WoW, you need to get full gems, enchants, get flask mats, buff food, potions, read tactics, etc...
    There's a lot of extra stuff you need to do to start having fun.

    I don't know how it is in sweater(Gamebreaker ftw ), and God I hope they remove all that stuff,
    but I don't want to prepare for raids, I actually want to raid.

    In GW1, if i wanted to pvp, I made a pvp character of the class I want and started immediately, fully geared and ready to go.
    If I wanted to pvp, I took the character that I could get from lvl 1 to max lvl dungeon ready in about 5 hours max.

    It looks like they do this again in GW2,no "preparing" to have fun, but just having fun. which is why I love arenanet

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    Is it just me, or has the GW2Guru link disappeared from the curse bar at the top of the screen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothhive View Post
    Is it just me, or has the GW2Guru link disappeared from the curse bar at the top of the screen?
    I don't see it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothhive View Post
    Is it just me, or has the GW2Guru link disappeared from the curse bar at the top of the screen?
    And it has disappeared from the "Community Sites" list at the bottom.
    Something is up.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mif View Post
    and it has disappeared from the "community sites" list at the bottom.
    Something is up.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvbastel View Post
    Agreed, GW2, like GW1 will have its "be online at that time" stuff. I was in a semi-pro pvp guild in GW1, and we would do GvG (8vs8 guild pvp) every day, so yeah, while it has its hardcore stuff like WoW/etc, There's a big difference between the 2, To raid efficiently in WoW, you need to get full gems, enchants, get flask mats, buff food, potions, read tactics, etc...
    There's a lot of extra stuff you need to do to start having fun.

    I don't know how it is in sweater(Gamebreaker ftw ), and God I hope they remove all that stuff,
    but I don't want to prepare for raids, I actually want to raid.

    In GW1, if i wanted to pvp, I made a pvp character of the class I want and started immediately, fully geared and ready to go.
    If I wanted to pvp, I took the character that I could get from lvl 1 to max lvl dungeon ready in about 5 hours max.

    It looks like they do this again in GW2,no "preparing" to have fun, but just having fun. which is why I love arenanet

    If my post is hard to read, I'm sorry, I'm not really sober
    Well you might be in luck on the SWTOR side of things. While yes they will have raiding, they have said that they fully expect people to be able to do normal raids without voice communication like vent or some such. They've also said that they fully expect people to be able to get into raiding without grinding heroic flashpoints like one has to grind heroic dungeons in WoW. Also there is the loot containers that are supposed to drop beneficial things for you.

    Here is a link to an article discussing the current design philosophy of SWTOR's raids.
    http://darthhater.com/2011/07/29/pc-...on-operations/

    It sounds like SWTOR is aiming for the more casual raiders with this. They have said there are going to be more difficulty modes though for those who want more of the challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothhive View Post
    Is it just me, or has the GW2Guru link disappeared from the curse bar at the top of the screen?
    Hmm that's odd, maybe Curse is going to change the bar to add more stuff to it. I know Curse has acquired the DarthHater site for the SWTOR fans and since it's acquisition it has yet to appear on the Curse bar, so maybe they are going to change it to add these things and just had to take something off for now for a rearrangement.

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    Question 1 to 20 in 5 hours, and dungeon ready to boot?

    Quote Originally Posted by jvbastel View Post

    If I wanted to pvp, I took the character that I could get from lvl 1 to max lvl dungeon ready in about 5 hours max.
    I think it is supposed to be pve instead of pvp.

    I'm new to GW, so I just gotta ask if this 1 to 20 in 5 hours, and dungeon ready to boot, is for real. And if so then how is this done?

    My plan is to quit 3 WoW accounts, (have 8 kids and we all have a blast playing mmos together), start 3 in GW, get 30 points in HoM for each so we can spice up 3 GW2 accounts next year, then either play GW casually until GW2 comes out. Or take a nice long break from MMO type games so GW2 will be fresh.

    The quit 3 WoW and start 3 in GW is done, now just looking at different paths to the 3x30 points...
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    did some searching and found a few answers at: wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Power_leveling
    still have the 1-85 grind in my thoughts of 'reaching max level', need to readjust to the nicer GW thinking...

    not sure on how to get dungeon ready though, grind items for lvl 20 collectors?
    Last edited by kaylestes; 2011-10-12 at 10:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaylestes View Post
    I'm new to GW, so I just gotta ask if this 1 to 20 in 5 hours, and dungeon ready to boot, is for real. And if so then how is this done?
    "Dungeon ready" in GW1 is basically being max level, in max armor, with max skill points (i.e., ascended then done the two +15 attribute quests by campaign), and have at least one elite skill for your class. This is easily done if you can stand a solid grind, especially starting in Nightfall and immediately transitioning to Eye of the North at lvl 10.
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    Ah, I see...

    Thank you.

    My WoW main had 50 reputations maxed, about 120 mounts, over 150 companions (miniatures), Loremaster, etc.
    Actually looking forward to moving my collector/completest/ocd self to GW.

    I can "stand a solid grind" no sweat, just need to go find out where/when...
    Last edited by kaylestes; 2011-10-13 at 05:12 AM.

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    If you enjoy the gameplay in GW then it's not too bad of a "grind". If you are a masochist you could try to get GWAMM though (that title will transfer over to GW2 as well).

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    To be honest, now that you mention it, I was planing to try to get The Legendary Defender of Ascalon title on my first char to make GWAMM just a little easier for a GW virgin to get. I thought it might be a bit cocky to mention that someone brand new to GW would try to get GWAMM, one of the hardest objectives in the game.

    I didn't know it would transfer over to GW2 though, now I have to try for it.

    I imagine we have 4,6,8 months 'til GW2? So plenty of time to mix enjoyable casual days with enjoyable grindy days.
    Can always get it later if GW2 comes earlier.

    So much for taking a nice long break from MMOs...

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    I don't want to start up a new topic for a question.. but where are the Margonites now? How many is known from them? I'm trying to find information but there's not much known about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodhunter View Post
    I don't want to start up a new topic for a question.. but where are the Margonites now? How many is known from them? I'm trying to find information but there's not much known about it.
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Margonite ?

    From the little info that is there, they sound interesting, but they are currently MIA as far as the article is concerned.

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    Yea I've read that part, but there's no information if they are gone, still in Elona and their bonds with the Luxons. I'm just curious about these epic beings.

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