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    Desperate Prayer mandatory for PvP?

    Due to the new patch and the nerfing of warriors. Is it still an essential to have this talent for disc pvp?
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    Last edited by Kelesti; 2011-04-27 at 11:15 PM.

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    I am pretty sure, anyone that took said spell, didn't JUST on the chance they fought a warrior.

    As it has saved my ass on many occasions when getting jumped by 2 or more people while waiting for backup

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    were warriors actually nerfed to begin with?

    DP isn't mandatory, but it sure helps a bit since it's been buffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacrypheyes View Post
    were warriors actually nerfed to begin with?

    DP isn't mandatory, but it sure helps a bit since it's been buffed.
    Colossus Smash had it's armor reduction reduced by 50% against players.
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    @Krethos I am mainly talking about arena so at the most i will have 2 people on me.

    @sacrypheyes Warriors got thier colossus smash percentage taken down from 100% to 50%, this means thier burst is less.

    I only ask because maybe going into the shadow tree would be more benificial. no need for hit which means more int/spirit. 4 seconds off the cooldown off fear which makes faster CC. Maybe having inner focus is enough to survive agains burst rather than a 30% heal.

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    Did a bunch of arena last night and Warriors don't feel any different. They just had their damage shifted around a bit to reduce the chance of getting global'd but they still have a ton of burst and totally tear through priests/mages/etc like nothing else.

    If you thought DP was mandatory before, nothing has changed.

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    Ignoring 100% of armor was too OP in pvp, 50% is more fair.

    Desperate Prayer is always mandatory because an instant heal for 30% of your HP is always helpful and may even be the reason you won an arena.

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    It's definitely saved me a few times when a double DPS team can't take down my partner and quick switch to me. I combine my 16k HP trinket with a macro to my DP. Not sure cause I haven't tested it yet, but if you pop the trinket before you DP, then you get 16k HP added to your total health for DP % heal.

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    They need to scale DP to 45% just like lock candies.

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    I wouldn't say it is mandatory... but it sure is nice.

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    Warrior damage was only really nerfed on high armor targets.

    With the additional global cooldowns they have because of rend/MS/Imp-hamstring changes..

    PS, desperate prayer #1

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    imp. hamstring, yea man saves loots of globals... over 2 years maybe <.<'

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    Quote Originally Posted by trollBoogey View Post
    They need to scale DP to 45% just like lock candies.
    30% of TOTAL health > 45% of BASE health by the way.

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