I want it and I might be the World first to hold it.
I want it but I will have hurdles including commitment, time and guild issues..
I want it but I have no idea what it will take.
I want it but I have only have a level 1 caster.
I don't care about legendaries...
i want it but i often offspec heal in raids which makes the legendary useless when ill heal
so probally some herp derp pure dps will come with that claim and take it away from me
while there dps and role as interupter or what ever they do are way less significant then what i do
offspec as is in offspec to help out not really as i wanna heal and take a healer spot away
Considering that this legendary staff was designed FOR caster DPS and you're not DPS all the time, I see no reason for you to think it's unfair other than greed. Caster DPS haven't had a legendary since Aetish, which is no longer obtainable. Healers recently had Vala'nyr, which you can still grind for if it's just for bragging rights.
As for being less significant, no, DPS are not less worthy of respect and gear than you. Both roles are vital to any given fight, and just how crazy awesome each role has to be varies by fights. They are not comparable because they have different responsibilities and raid utility. You could be the best healer in the world, but if you have shitty DPS in your raid, you're never going to kill a progression raid boss. Vice versa. Having a self-entitled attitude doesn't mean you should be the priority for gear that won't benefit your raid for every fight you're involved in.
Last edited by Zuziza; 2011-05-06 at 06:05 AM. Reason: Grammar fail.
i top dps
its just that when there are no other decent healers in the guild online
that i get the spot to fill the last healer spot and get replaced with a lesser dpser
and all other hybrid dps are already swapped into a tank
most dps are pure dps classes in the guild
i could play stuborn and say i only can get legendary if i stay dps,
so get some 1 else to heal for you
as my main spec is SP not disc/holy
thought wonder how this works with attonemt disc as a side effect if i get it and they still ask to heal
(and i dont have to worry that much as all other dps are more or less non casters and the 1s that are do average dmg & arent there all time in raid)
anyway stage of getting it into legendary it still far from grasping & i think by time you are at P3 or something there are already other ppl behind you with P1 or/and P2
but from the reply im getting is kinda like only mages & warlocks can get the staff caus they are pure dps they cant help the guild out in any other way,
your sp to bad caus you might need to help out healing 1 day & make the staff useless
same aplys for druid & shaman
I never heal. Ever. Nor does the other Spriest in my guild.
Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.
Ya, I consider my "main" spec as shadow but I haven't gotten to play shadow (other than a select few bosses) for 2 months because we cannot field enough healers. As much as I'd love to have the staff I'm not going to take it over someone who will get 100% use out of it.
Although I may try to make the Atonement argument because I do actually use it quite a bit.
My priest's group (10man) is organized by me (shadow), a mage and a warlock. I have no idea who's getting it, but I want it...
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Sorry for the little rant. Just brings back memories of ICC where our 2 Smournes went to officers who weren't nearly as good as other dedicated members who were in the guild for 9+ months.
Retired Holy/Disc Priest: Summer of 2011
Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
1) The group I play with has known each other for years, whereas I joined a few months ago and there's been people slightly newer/older than me both ragequitting and sticking around. I wouldn't blame them for worrying I'd run off with it, but it would bum me out to be looked over for that reason.
2) I'm usually top DPS, but in the next 2-3 weeks, I won't be able to play as much. I'm certain I'll be back before firelands, but missing out on heroic gear and progression kills could mean other DPS will outgear me (and out DPS me) when they start making the decision of who gets the staff once we start working for it.
3) While they weren't as stubborn as other guilds I've heard about, I had to have a long talk about Spirit/Haste gear so they'd know that denying me spirit gear would mean I'd pull shit DPS. (Just look up gear that has both hit and haste on wowhead; there's 3 items.) They're good about taking stats into account for assigning gear through loot council, as well as how much of an upgrade it is, etc. If the staff doesn't have haste or if it has more crit/hit/mastery than haste, the others could argue that they benefit more from those stats (meaning it's a bigger upgrade) compared to the second BiS item in the tier than I would. If that turns out to be true, what could I possibly say to counter it?
When #2 and #3 on the charts are literally right behind me on meters (sometimes surpassing me depending on the fight), it's difficult to argue that 100-200 dps alone means I should get the staff when they bring other utility to the raid. Basing it off one reason alone is a red flag, but I'm just worried that the other factors coming into play will work against me. I'll be working hard to show that i deserve the staff, but I'm not as naive to say that because I'm top DPS most of the time that I'll definitely get it.
---------- Post added 2011-05-07 at 06:33 PM ----------
Well by blind chance i am the longest serveing caster (and officer) in my guild and so it decided that i will be the one to get it. Really looking forward to the quest line and hoping that being in a 10m guild wont effect our chances i.e. blizz gimp the drop the chances
That being said, let's say the final version does favor one class slightly over another, the decision to whom it should be granted should certainly factor in things such as tenure, attendance, skill, and ability to not DIAF.
I do know my guild will try to take those other factors into account, so I'll be working my ass off to prove I'm worth giving it to even if I haven't been in guild as long as the others.
One of the reasons that legendary items usually end up on officers hand (at least in my view as officer) is that the officers are required to be good players (you can't complain about someone doing bad DPS or standing in the fire if you are doing that too), so they are good options and they (probably) trust them. No one knows if Little John, that joined last week and has been topping the metters, will stick around after getting the item.
And trust me, it happens. My guild's first Shadowmourne wielder didn't even raid once with it with us and we though he was the right guy (he was with us since Ulduar). He simply stopped logging then he suddently left the guild and joined another one.
As for my current group... well, only the 3 of us are able to use it (we are ignoring the Resto druid for obvious reasons) so it will stay amoung one of us.