The 2 hour kick debuff is a serious problem.
I now have more groups breaking than people being kicked simply because no1 can initiate one and the bastard won't leave
There has also been an influx of people going AFK simply to be spiteful, I have been unfortunate enough to encounter this multiple times (usually the tank...) and the group has simply disbanded because he couldn't be kicked.
Plain and simple, this rule punishes the good guys! (especially with the new guild run limitations)
What I've noticed in the heroic dungeons I've been to is that the party members wait for someone else to put up a vote kick so they won't get the penalty. They say "Lets kick him?", other people say "ok"... the person who suggested it doesn't do anything, I end up initiating it.
If Blizzard isn't going to remove the penalty completely, they should have some hidden system that'd recognise words in the reason box and only give penalty to reasons that are not in the list of accepted reasons, such as "wears plate".
Pretty easy problem to solve
everyone in group must agree to kick a player, alot of time most people click yes because they just want to complete their dungeon and dont care. if one dude says no then kick fails, if all people say yes then kick works
there will always be one good dude who wont kick for stupid reasons and almost everyone will kick when its a serious problem
although friends might prevent their bad friend getting kicked, this system would be better then it is now.
remove restriction on kicking but make the whole group agree is the best way. people kick too easy and when u need it then u cant use it hehe
if i say no to kick, my vote has no impact, blizzard should give more importance to the no vote since that indicates that the kick might not be needed.
I might be misunderstanding. Did you queue up and join straight at the boss or did you queue up and clear some trash packs with your friends up to the boss?
If it's the first one I can understand the Boomkin being AFK (as he was probably thinking it'd take 15 minutes to get a tank in). If it's the second one, kind of the same thing, only you should not have gotten the deserted debuff.
If I were in that situation I would still have killed the boss. If the Boomkin had rolled for loot (rather than letting it time out), I'd have opened a ticket about it and Blizzard could look into it and possibly punish the guy. They don't really tolerate such behavior from players, as it's not the intended purpose of LFD for 4 other players to carry 1, or 3 to carry 2, etc.
As to the second part of this post, even if you haven't initiated a kick, every time you press yes you get a 'mark'. So while you may have had the 2 hour kick wait, someone else could have, say, 30 seconds. Not always the case if your friends were your guild mates and you'd recently kicked someone else from a group (as guild groups are heavily penalized for using the kick system).
So, I'm sorry this happened to you, but Blizzard's got loopholes for players to jump through when put in tough situations like this because they don't want people abusing their system just as much as YOU don't want people abusing the system.
Actually, I would expect a large number of people to hit yes on that.
Next time you go to vote kick someone make your message
"You are in the queue for Alterac Valley Do you wish to enter the Battleground."
Some people hit Yes simply because it pops up on their screens. They don;t even read what the reason is.
Last edited by Cernunnos; 2011-05-01 at 11:13 AM.
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