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They aren't hard.
I fucked around laughing with guildies and pulling bosses with healers AFK and got every quest and achievement done in ZG within two hours. On the second ZA run we got a bear after learning the differences from 10 man to 5 man (Nalorakk having that charge debuff mainly). I don't understand what people are complaining about.
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2011-05-02, 04:40 PM #1High Overlord
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The New Heroics
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2011-05-02, 04:47 PM #2Deleted
Nice to know.
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2011-05-02, 04:50 PM #3Deleted
Fitting user-name.
EDIT:
To clarify, I don't find the new instances extremely difficult either like some of the posts want you to believe, but those same posts also testament how difficult they actually are for the average PuG'er.
No, they're not hard if you do everything properly and outgear it.
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2011-05-02, 04:59 PM #4Scarab Lord
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Well guild runs and pugs are really alot different and what kinda gear do you guys have?
I agree that they are fine really, i enjoy running them
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2011-05-02, 04:59 PM #5The Insane
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Are you supposed to be successful if you constantly fuck up and are undergeared?
Originally Posted by AlysonMeyer
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2011-05-02, 05:23 PM #6Banned
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they are not hard.
green is bad mkay
dead raptor needs to stay dead mkay
kill the panthers first mkay 1.... 1 pack at a time mkay
blue potion for berserkers green for poison, red for tank mkay
kill the chains.... let the big guys break the sheilds.... mkay
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2011-05-02, 05:25 PM #7High Overlord
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Green has a 50/50 chance of healing you though! Originally Posted by GennGreymane
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2011-05-02, 05:27 PM #8Corgi Princess
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My guild decided to wing that one and we didn't think we could pull the panthers without the boss so we decided to go for it. Was pretty hilarious when all the panthers came at once and mauled our faces off... was a good laugh. Originally Posted by GennGreymane
They are only hard of people have trouble with the mechanics and/or anyone (especially the healer or tank) is really undergeared.
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2011-05-02, 05:32 PM #9The Patient
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hahaha Pretty much do exactly what this guy says and you will not board the failboat. Originally Posted by GennGreymane
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2011-05-02, 06:42 PM #10The Patient
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Average pug tank here, these places are easy, with the possible exception of RNG and people failing, like not killing birds or not cycling through bear charges or standing too close together, etc. I went into a pug group on my tank in ZA and we got the third tribute chest. A PUG. Third. Tribute chest! My old guild in BC couldnt even get to ONE tribute chest (they sucked too bad). I am a little underwhelmed at this "tier 2" dungeons. The step from ToC to ICC dungeons was MUCH steeper than this, and this is meant to be the hard expansion. Haven't yet run with guild, but I'm sure we'll get a bear if we bearly (HA) put in an effort.
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2011-05-02, 07:24 PM #11High Overlord
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The 15% you get from pugs easily lets you push ZA's shit in. In our guild run that averages some of the highest DPS on a progressive raiding server we only beat the timer by under two minutes each time, and that's with lust.
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2011-05-02, 07:27 PM #12Warchief
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Comparing the ease with doing it with guildies in vent to a pug... yeah night and day. If people say it's hard I guarantee they're pugging it, in that case for the most part i'd agree, I see so much pvp gear and people stepping in there with no clue even though there is plenty of literature out there to read up on.
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2011-05-02, 07:28 PM #13Brewmaster
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The only thing taht is hard right now is in ZA IF you have the Archeology buff on the bird boss the little bears stack the debuff and you will wipe. Its a stupid bug I hope they fix. But it is why some people are going on and on about how hard that one is to heal and others are saying what a cakewalk he is.
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2011-05-02, 09:59 PM #14DeletedAhh, mystery solved! Originally Posted by coldfiredragon
I think the instances are okish. I do overgear them by a fair margin, but Ive completed both in pugs, 2 wipes in ZA to trash, 4 wipes on Venoxis and 2 on Jindo. Just stay calm and explain the tactics for tough bosses, and suggest cc for tough trash.
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2011-05-02, 10:01 PM #15Deleted
Of course they're not hard. Just people need to learn not to stand in the fire and crowd control.
You're in a guild so its unsurprising you did well ;D
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2011-05-02, 10:02 PM #16The Unstoppable Force
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People expect themselves to be spoon fed with gear -.- they refuse to learn and continue to complain
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2011-05-02, 10:04 PM #17Deletedbut i want my fr33 purplz naw! Originally Posted by resentful
people expect themselves to be spoon fed with gear -.- they refuse to learn and continue to complain
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2011-05-02, 10:05 PM #18Pandaren Monk
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Still surprises me how many retards you get that stand in the green. Just from 10 pugs (yeah, pugs, I know...) this weekend, I managed to kill 1 boss. Ever since, it's a minimum 4/5 guild group, healer included.
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