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  1. #1041
    Oh well, you guys have fun doing what you're doing. I am going to go happily play WoW. But just think about what you're complaining about. You are complaining that a business is creating a product, placing it on the market, and charging you for it? How absurd! How dare a business make you pay for their products and services.

  2. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by Chazle View Post
    Loved it until I got to the premium part. If i'm paying extra for this, paying extra for guild chat/ah use, paying extra for mounts...what am I paying $15 for? Ya, I know I don't need to pay for all of these things, but come on now...what is our $15 getting us? Having to pay for every little development they make is a pain in the ass. Will I have to start paying for new tiers of raiding?
    Well you see that everything past the subscription fee is "extra" and does not hinder game play.

  3. #1043
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeleena View Post
    If I was going to stick it out and support Blizzard in this screwed up pay + microtransactions for play feature, you can bet to hell that I'd be charging people cash money to my paypal account to tank for them.
    I think this is the money people aren't understanding here. I sure as hell would accept money from people on other servers if I was some super-geared tank or a tank/healer combo that could farm achievements, runs, JP, etc. And there are people out there that will gladly shell out the money to get those things.

    Not being able to trade in-game gold is of little consequence when Blizzard gives you the tools to accept money IRL, untracable, for runs and such. Hurry up and let us cross-realm raid with RealID friends! Top guilds would finally reap the benefits IRL from being 'lazy no-lifers'. rofl
    Quote Originally Posted by Oajng View Post
    This is the way I see it. Everyone has human rights, and should respect everyone else's human rights. If you consciously hurt anyone you concede your human rights from what you have done. Think of it like pvp flagging.
    I find it so hilarious when people take pure neutrality and a flat tone as anger, hate, or rage.

  4. #1044
    Community is blind. It's a very small minority of people who need this feature, who have many real ID friends on other servers.

    Therefore, to put all the work into it (for the small minority) and get any of the investment of resources back, they need to charge for it.

  5. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by creb99 View Post
    I wonder what is more complex to develop - this new feature or x-realms BoA gear mailing?

    I am willing to bet my boss' right arm that making this x-realms friends grouping work is a lot more complex that than mailing heirlooms. But Blizzard obviously have their own priorities, or they are paving the way for a premium x-realm mailing feature.
    The code to pull people from different realms into the same party already exists. There is a function in the code base right now that pulls people in a list (the random dungeon queue) and puts them into the same party. However the player has no control over this at the moment other than through entering the dungeon finder queue.

    What this "new" feature basically does is (probably) put a new menu item in your friend list that calls the above function directly from the game client as opposed to leaving it in the hands of the server.

    I hate to re-use material but when Blizzard says this is complicated, the only people they're fooling are the people that think source code is a movie.

  6. #1046
    I feel everything strictly ingame should be free, which includes this service. All extra services are out of game, like the AH or guildchat on your phone or buying pets in the store and should remain so. Before you know it, we'll be paying to enter Firelands, as it wasn't included in the expansion and is a premium...

  7. #1047
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugglebug View Post
    Ranor is team leader of the Blizzard Defence Force, right?
    Maybe he is GhostCrawler
    Why?

    Who let the dog's out?! Whooo!!!

  8. #1048
    When I saw the news posted on MMO-C. I knew this will be interesting reading. When I saw 1k+ counter on comments, I was 100% it will be full of angry people shouting at Blizzard. I was right.

    It is definitely exciting feature that might allow you to play with people on other realms. I dont have problem that Blizzard wants to pay for it as long as it is reasonable fee. My idea would be either small monthly fee or better yet one-time charge that would be roughly 1/2 of what you pay for cross-realm transfer.

    People saying that they would rather pay for transfer are not realizing that not all of your friends, relatives or colleagues are on the same realm. This feature will let you play in 5-man instances with as many friends from different servers as you can fit in. This is complementary service to LFD and cross-realm transfers. It is not necessary to play the game nor it diminishes game value from what it was when you bought it.
    You are not entitled to anything Blizzard develops for their games. It may be a bad business approach in your eyes and you have perfect way of responding to it, cancel your subscription and be gone. It is win-win situation for you.
    Last edited by Baron01; 2011-05-18 at 09:42 AM. Reason: "Complimentary" should have been "Complementary". One letter, big difference..

  9. #1049
    Quote Originally Posted by hogomojojo View Post
    yeah I realize that, and thats hardly any money. I hope hoarding your money helps you achieve happiness. Also, my mother does not pay for anything of mine, in fact I am much more financially stable than her.
    So you're basically saying your fine with doubling your sub fee? You must have no principles.

    Hoarding our money? You sure know all of us. Blizzard is not some charity, please stop talking fanboy.

  10. #1050
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    I do not understand all the "Blizzard is charging for services other games offer for free." or "this service should have been included for free from the beginning." argument. What other MMO's allow you to play with any other player regardless of the server/realm they are on?

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    All the people that are suddenly remember their friends why they don't play on the same realm in the first place?
    Or why they didn't got a transfer if it is such a big deal for them to play with their friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    It is going to backfire trust me without a doubt. Kiss your server economies goodbye. If I was a RMT seller this would be a gold mine. Only way to make this work without horribly back firing is to make it so you can not trade in instances?
    You can't trade gold xrealm.


    The argument "Blizzard is charging monthly fee for playing why i should pay for that" is sad but to be honest i didn't expect more than an average MMO poster.

    The monthly fee is set since the day you scroll down and aggree on the terms, nowhere is written that Blizzard should give for free the X feature added later, it's like buying a BMW now and when the next model release you start complaining about BMW charging for the GPS system that yours don't have, is this make any sense?

    The only valid concern is that this feature will probably pull players from the LFD tool degrading the quality of it even more the rest is the classic whining fro everything Blizzard do.
    Last edited by Keosen; 2011-05-18 at 07:21 AM.

  12. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron01 View Post
    This is complimentary service to LFD and cross-realm transfers.
    You do realize that complimentary basically means free, right? Like, complimentary breakfast when you pay for one night at a Motel 8 or whatever. If it was complimentary, then you would have already paid for it when you paid your sub/bought the expansion. That's why it's called a 'premium service'. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Oajng View Post
    This is the way I see it. Everyone has human rights, and should respect everyone else's human rights. If you consciously hurt anyone you concede your human rights from what you have done. Think of it like pvp flagging.
    I find it so hilarious when people take pure neutrality and a flat tone as anger, hate, or rage.

  13. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzit View Post
    I do not understand all the "Blizzard is charging for services other games offer for free." or "this service should have been included for free from the beginning." argument. What other MMO's allow you to play with any other player regardless of the server/realm they are on?
    Besides the obvious rerolling to said server, realize this isn't playing with any other player, its running dungeons with any other player.

  14. #1054
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    I really don't see why so many people complain about this server.

    You lot weren't playing together with your friends on other realms before, now you finally get the chance (probably for a small fee) to do that and you complain about this.

    I might pay for the premium feature, but either I play horde and my gf is on her ally (other realm) or I play ally and some mates play horde (different realms) :P So it'll depend on how things work out and what the fee is like.

    If they'd make this free, yay! But for a small fee, it might be worth it.

    TL;DR version: You ain't playing with your friends now, soon you might be able to! Stop complaining!

  15. #1055
    Quote Originally Posted by A J Rimmer View Post
    Yeah would be easy 'HC geared tank selling runs. Just use the global message thing to advertise to anyone who's added you - need 3 dps for HC 200g per spot'

    Tanks would quite literally be able to buy gold lol.
    except you cant trade anything other then conjured items to cross realm players, iirc.

    How would they get the gold?

  16. #1056
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron01 View Post
    When I saw the news posted on MMO-C. I knew this will be interesting reading. When I saw 1k+ counter on comments, I was 100% it will be full of angry people shouting at Blizzard. I was right.

    It is definitely exciting feature that might allow you to play with people on other realms. I dont have problem that Blizzard wants to pay for it as long as it is reasonable fee. My idea would be either small monthly fee or better yet one-time charge that would be roughly 1/2 of what you pay for cross-realm transfer.

    People saying that they would rather pay for transfer are not realizing that not all of your friends, relatives or colleagues are on the same realm. This feature will let you play in 5-man instances with as many friends from different servers as you can fit in. This is complimentary service to LFD and cross-realm transfers. It is not necessary to play the game nor it diminishes game value from what it was when you bought it.
    You are not entitled to anything Blizzard develops for their games. It may be a bad business approach in your eyes and you have perfect way of responding to it, cancel your subscription and be gone. It is win-win situation for you.

    People scream about the *Premium naming* Wich would mean blizzard would look down to people who dont use it the seperation from premium to normal account...Our accoutns wasn't called premium when we used migration. When suddenly u put this so called *premium* service u start seperate accounts...And people like u are the reason others cancel subscription logging in a forum to troll people who say their opinion...
    Why?

    Who let the dog's out?! Whooo!!!

  17. #1057
    blizzards keep losing subs and yet they keep releasing this premium shit. seriously?

  18. #1058
    I dont have friends on other servers, ive stopped doing lol-5mans a few months ago. I dont give a rat's *ss about this premium thingy. Life is fantastic.

  19. #1059
    I'll gladly be the team leader of the Blizzard Defense Force. I'm not ashamed of it. At least I'm not being irrational and screaming SKY IS FALLING I HATE YOU BLIZZARD UR THE WORST PERSON EVER I HOPE YOU DIE because the company is adding a feature that won't do anything to change my gameplay.

    The WoW community is one of the most spoiled communities I've ever seen in every aspect of the game. Nothing is ever good enough for people. Blizzard buffs their class? THIS BUFF ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH I WANT MORE. Blizzard nerfs their class? BLIZZARD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MY CLASS I'M QUITTING WoW! Blizzard adds a new free feature? OMG PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME TO MY HOUSE EVEN THOUGH THE ONLY WAY TO GET MY INFORMATION IS IF I PERSONALLY ADD THEM! Blizzard adds a paid service? GIMMEGIMMEGIMME.

    I mean. It's kind of funny, really. People don't see how ridiculous they're being. The sad reality of this situation is many people probably would've paid for this service because they legitimately would like to run a few dungeons with their pals on another server, but at the rate this is going, it'll get scrapped and NOBODY will get it.

    This isn't a precursor to some great gaming disaster. It's just another optional feature that does nothing to change your life. And with that, I'm off to dreamland. Enjoy your nerdrage.

  20. #1060
    That argument is the oldest in the book, Hogomojojo. They can sell all the mounts and pets in the world, but a feature like this, a HUGE feature of RealID (which is something they kept going on and on about how it would change the way people play games, for a good while leading up to it's implementation) should be free. They get our subs every single month, they use that money to develop a feature like this, which yes I'm sure was incredibly difficult for the massively talented people who work at Blizzard, and then they tell us about it and it sounds awesome. But wait! You're going to need to pay more for it, because it was a lot of hard work and the profits from subscriptions didn't quite cover it! Blizzard is incredibly lucky in that they're one of the few developers who can get away with pulling this crap, time and time again and the playerbase just suck it up. Just to re-iterate. You pay a sub, you buy expansions and now you can buy a feature to let you play with friends cross realm.

    I'm not saying everything should be free. Quite the opposite, faction transfers, server transfers should definitely have a cost associated with them. Mounts and pets in a store I'm fine with, I don't care about collecting them. Mobile auction house and guild chat, fine. Paying for a FEATURE that really, really should be part of a content patch, whilst also paying a subscription is pushing it a little too far, and judging from the overwhelmingly negative responses so far I'd say people agree. For the record, if I wasn't already paying a sub, I'd be fine with this.

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