Can someone explain why? (Avenging Wrath)

[Deleted]

Why does every talent tree have 'must get' talents to reduce avenging wraths cd by 1 minute...?

[apepi]

Why not?:}

[t3hj0j0]

I asked blizz before, but the thread was deleted. Still not sure, because by the time you get AW... you can have the talents that reduce the CD, and every spec always takes those talents, so it's not even a trade off. Just a silly littly thing I guess.

[jenseits]

Cause instead of them having to come up with something rather unique it allots them an easy way out. Nobody in their right mind would pass on it, and it's obviously intended to be taken, so why not just cut the BS and make it base CD of 2 min? Then you can throw in an actual unique and beneficial affect for each tree on top of what it already does

[DaGhostDS]

its to make us think we get something out of our talents and if they made it baseline they would have to create something new.
You know how bad they are at that, right?

[Unferth]

Blizz fucked up badly with Paladins in Cata.
They tried to do this whole balancing thing, and they fell flat on their faces like idiots.

I honestly believe Ghostcrawler needs to be fired, and they need to bring in new blood. GC fucked up paladins, handed the game to mages and warriors on a silver plate. He is also in charge of professions, and he fucked them up too.

[Dmchomerun]

Well...obviously you need to be a certain level to have enough points to put them into the AW talent...so maybe it is a thing for lowbies using it in low-level BGs or something. But, at the same time, it is pointless.

Edit: Sounded weird

[Deleted]

i noticed this months ago:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...e-else-notice-...

[notasgudasyou]

I wouldnt mind Ret getting cd reduction for Herp of Ancient Derp, to be honest.
It is a cool spell infact, especially after a few tweaks, it started to act like it has at least half a brain.

you mean it acted like 80% of ret paladins that play this game?

[Deleted]

The would have to invent something new

[Deleted]

Well...obviously you need to be a certain level to have enough points to put them into the AW talent...so maybe it is a thing for lowbies using it in low-level BGs or something. But, at the same time, it is pointless.

Edit: Sounded weird

Nah, I'm very sure that this isn't it, because so far low level balance simply doesn't exist.

[MorphexEU]

The would have to invent something new

Both prot and holy have 2 min CD too

And a few posts above mmo_lol posted a link to another post about this

[Deleted]

it would make so much sence to have this talent do different things for different tree's
holy change 20% damadge 20% healing done intp pure 30% healing done
Prot change 20% damadge 20% healing done into 20% damadge 20% Healing TAKEN
Ret change 20% damadge 20% healing done into 20% damadge and each hammer of wrath cast reduces the CD on GoaK by 5 secs which would reduce goak cd bu 30~ secs depending on dp procs during your aw.

[Rivenda]

Blizz fucked up badly with Paladins in Cata.
They tried to do this whole balancing thing, and they fell flat on their faces like idiots.

I honestly believe Ghostcrawler needs to be fired, and they need to bring in new blood. GC fucked up paladins, handed the game to mages and warriors on a silver plate. He is also in charge of professions, and he fucked them up too.

The fuck are you talking about? Paladins are awesome. Holy paladin with AE heals now. Prot Pala, is no longer LOL AD! Retri is no longer spam everything that's off CD. Holy power is brilliant idea. I like the new paladins alot better than the old ones. You now have a choice, heal yourself with WoG, or hope a healer save you.

[archangelz]

Retri is no longer spam everything that's off CD. Holy power is brilliant idea. .

You're right, it's way better now. Spam crusader strike whenever it's up, Inq/TV when at 3 HP. It's way harder now.
/sarcasm

[Deleted]

easy way to create unique talents for each spec.

Baseline: 2min CD 20% dmg and 20% more Heal
Holy: 20% more heal 20% haste (think of priests 20% haste 20% lower mana costs)
Ret: 20% dmg 20% crit.
Prot: 20% dmg 20% more aggro

just fast thinking

[Deleted]

easy way to create unique talents for each spec.

Baseline: 2min CD 20% dmg and 20% more Heal
Holy: 20% more heal 20% haste (think of priests 20% haste 20% lower mana costs)
Ret: 20% dmg 20% crit.
Prot: 20% dmg 20% more aggro

just fast thinking

might as well create 3 new classes then, if every spell is going to do something different.