View Poll Results: Blizzard's favorite class this expansion?

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  • Death Knight

    106 8.37%
  • Druids

    19 1.50%
  • Hunter

    57 4.50%
  • Mage

    896 70.77%
  • Paladin

    37 2.92%
  • Priest

    18 1.42%
  • Rogue

    24 1.90%
  • Shaman

    27 2.13%
  • Warlock

    17 1.34%
  • Warrior

    65 5.13%
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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRetnolds View Post
    Frost Mages do very well in PvP, but they are quite weak in a raiding scenario.
    I've raided with a frost mage who was able to put out 16-17k dps. While I know that's not 'the best' damage (in a raiding sense) by any means, it's still good and very viable for raiding.

    Maybe he got a bunch of critical hits in that fight? *shrug*

  2. #122
    It would take a lot of denial to say that mages aren't both in a good place, and are receiving a ton of developer attention at the same time.

    They have 3 viable PvE specs, many quality of life abilities, and cool factor to spare.

    I'm not sure how anybody can refute that they are on top of the pile at the moment. Not claiming they are OP, simply that as a class they certainly have life better then most, if not all. On top if it, they seem to be getting the lion's share of dev love as well.

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  3. #123
    Lawl, you only say mage because frost is op in pvp.
    My dmg in raids are the same as hunters.

  4. #124
    Add 'in PVP' to topic title. Right now the discussion and the poll results are only considering this part.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaplaceNoMa View Post
    PvP most favored: mage
    PvP least favored: hunter

    PvE most favored: hunter
    PvE least favored: mage

    Funny, isn't it
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Senaelanna View Post
    Mage/Paladin. I wish I had my class reworked into broken OPness every expansion like Paladins.
    Really hope you're not talking about pvp, because Paladins are by far the shittiest healers right now. They were the best at the beginning of the expansion, and the best healers and were pretty much all the way through Wrath, but In BC, paladins were barely used, except for 5s. Shamans are the best healers right now by far followed by priests and druids a little behind, that will change with the coming patch though.

    Quote Originally Posted by PineappleDude View Post
    Mage by far. And shaman are the forgotten one by blizzard
    I really hope you're not talking about resto shamans in pvp because if you are you're a complete idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varyk View Post
    It's mages or hunters. Shadow Priests are also up there. The rest (dks) aren't rly even close.
    Quote Originally Posted by Asotcha View Post
    all i know is its not rogues or shamans ...both the classes i play rofls
    My class isn't op because i play it. Both (resto) shaman and rogue are really good right now, so i don't know what you're complaining about. If you're talking about elemental shamans, i feel your pain


    Quote Originally Posted by Psilo View Post
    People forget that for all of T11 up until patch 4.1, Mages had 1 viable PvE spec out of 3.

    THAT is why all the buffs came in. They were PvE buffs. But, whatever... people will interpret things however they see fit.
    They really need to come up with a new system so balancing pve abilities doesn't affect pvp abilities. I really think they should just split off the abilities into 2 different things like they do X for pve and Y for pvp that way they can balance each class a lot easier without ruining a different part of the game.
    Last edited by Creptius; 2011-05-26 at 06:30 AM.
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  6. #126
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    I voted mage, and I play a mage, I think its true to be honest, and I like it ^^

  7. #127
    Confirmed: Anyone who didn't pick mage is a mage.
    (Joking, it's all in good fun friends!)

  8. #128
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    HmmmmmmmmmmMage

    LOL at people who picked Paladins. You don't know.

  9. #129
    I honestly thought blood DKs because of thier heals and thier mastery
    But it is definely not paladin I play them and they are like Blizzard's abused children and thats why I play gmod more now... Blizzard you games needs to be fixed the fuck beyond belief
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  10. #130
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    Kek at the poll numbers.

    P.S Mages of course.

    P.P.S Damn mages!

  11. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dramanie View Post
    Lawl, you only say mage because frost is op in pvp.
    My dmg in raids are the same as hunters.
    Read a little closer, Captain Defensive. No one's saying you need a nerf, we're saying they've received the most positive attention of all of the classes in this expansion, which is just fact.

    Just because you're not effortlessly topping meters on every fight in every raid on every moonphase doesn't mean you aren't in a really good spot. Soak it up.
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  12. #132
    Something that I think needs to be said...

    I can't speak for everybody, and Elune knows on the forums it's even more skewed, but most people don't think mages need tuned down, they want to feel as tho their class is as good.

    I see mages as a design success. I hope to see them used as the model going forward with class design. I don't wan't to see you guys nerfed, I want to see the same love and attention you have gotten. I want all classes to have 3 viable specs, and frills, and cool factor.

    Sure, some people are jealous and sour, but many of us are rational and don't want to take anything from you. We just want the same treatment.
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    Yes yes, I know, the sky just bonked you on the head, casuals are taking over the government, and some baddie just got a raid drop... I think you'll live.

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  13. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snes View Post
    Every time I see someone say Hello Kitty island Adventure I can't take them seriously. That's your life; WoW and South Park? Frost mages were a problem before 4.1 you know, btw.
    Every time I see someone reference a previous patch or some "pre-nerf" crap, I can't take them seriously, either. You know what else was a problem in 1v1? Warriors. Shamans. Druids. Paladins. Death Knights. Is that your life? Duels and unranked arena?

    cwutididthar?

    Mages are not OP by a long shot. What, we have three viable specs? Shit, son, we SHOULD have three viable specs. We can't tank or heal; what use would one or two extra specs be if they couldn't do anything? And when people say viable, they should really clarify. PVP viability is not the same as PVE, just like PVE viability is not the same as PVP. Take an arcane mage into an actual arena. Go ahead, queue up with your 3s team. I'll wait.

    Done? Dead? Probably the last one targeted once they saw you weren't rocking a water ele? Yeah, welcome to every mage spec ever besides frost since PVP was invented.

    Now, for a fun exercise, go raid as frost. Hell, go do a random heroic as frost. If you could take a time machine back to when Cat first dropped, I'd challenge you to do it as arcane, as well. Why? Because both specs did exactly jack and shit when it came to raiding. Only now has arcane been brought in line with fire as a viable spec, and that's after an entire expansion when fire was considered moderately more useful than letting your grandmother play your toon so you didn't have to poop-sock it. As for frost? You may as well bring in a holy pally and let him cast exorcism against everything as his main means of DPS.

    Mage specs have basically bounced around being somewhat decent to fairly terrible in past expansions, with arcane at the height of ICC being the only time where they could faceroll like a lot of other classes had the chance to do before. And right when arcane was getting good, what happens? Cataclysm drops, everyone goes lolfire, and hunters in greens out-damage epic-geared mages because of bad RNG and poor mechanics that take literally four years to get fixed. And even when they do get fixed, it isn't really a fix. It's like trying to neuter your cat, then deciding it costs too much and instead relying on spraying him with water whenever you see him try to mount his sister. It works as intended maybe fifty percent of the time.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Prothall View Post
    So, in order to have proper balance in 1v1 against a mage, you actually have to have 1v2.

    Am i reading that right?
    Yeah because if you let a match come down to your melee vs a Mage you fucked up your kill order it has nothing to do with blizz, has to do with you being bad

  15. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psilo View Post
    Being a Mage on MMO-Champion is like being Jewish in 1939 Germany.
    I wish we could Like posts on here sometimes. I really do.

  16. #136
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    Mage might have had most improvement lately, but i also remember that in several years they didn't get a thing where all other classes got improvement all the time.

  17. #137
    lol at the vote results... just shows how similar the mindset of the wow gaming community is to the dodos in cartoons, one random dodo gets an idea and shouts it out to the rest and volia you have a bunch of mindless drones following said dodo of the freakin cliff, chanting the same omg mages are so op song while falling to their inevitable death.

    The question now is how to get the brainless gaming dodos extinct just like the real ones?

  18. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Every time I see someone reference a previous patch or some "pre-nerf" crap, I can't take them seriously, either.
    Right, because previous patches in cataclysm aren't relevant to a thread that EXPLICITLY STATES that we are talking about things IN CATACLYSM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Mages are not OP by a long shot.
    Denial.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Take an arcane mage into an actual arena. Go ahead, queue up with your 3s team. I'll wait.
    Sure, just as soon as you qeue up in 3v3 with your combat rogue, holy priest, or destro lock, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Now, for a fun exercise, go raid as frost.
    Cool, I'll qeue up with your sub rogue! Deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Cataclysm drops, everyone goes lolfire, and hunters in greens out-damage epic-geared mages because of bad RNG and poor mechanics that take literally four years to get fixed. players that gem mastery for increased DoT damage.
    Fixed.

    I LOVE how defensive the mages here are getting; Astralvibe a prime example. "Wha, everyone hates mages! I guess EVERYONE IS A BRAINLESS SHEEP BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THE CLASS I PLAY ACTUALLY HAS AN ADVANTAGE!"
    Scream "mob mentality", "sheeple", or "dodos" all you want, it doesn't omit the fact that you are factually wrong. Sorry.
    Last edited by Snes; 2011-05-26 at 07:15 AM.

  19. #139
    lol'd @ poll

    couldnt agree more

    every patch notes seems to be some kind of mage buff

  20. #140
    I like that mages are here to rage at everyone, but the votes keep coming in for them.

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