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  1. #541
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    I can taste the DK Q.Q already..... >:9
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  2. #542
    As an Elemental Shaman, I say God bless Blizzard and anyone else who wants nerf DKs. Pls beat the shit out of DKs with the nerfbat.

  3. #543
    Love the DKs who are upset because (1) they can't solo heroic dungeon bosses any more or (2) they can't win 1 v. 2 anymore. Welcome to being balanced. If you want to self heal, roll blood spec and presence and you will still heal like a truck. I can solo ozruk heroic in blood spec and pres. Tell me another tank that can do that.

  4. #544
    http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/05...-a-hero-class/
    This is the reason really. Blame Tirion and Alexstrasza.

  5. #545
    You can see too that the 1.5s cast on Hungering Cold is still there for DK, but still no casting time for Ring of Frost.
    Damn, those Whinny Mages are really
    are u stupid ? ring of frost doesnt freeze asap. it takes x seconds to START freeze

  6. #546
    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksterjim View Post
    Love the DKs who are upset because (1) they can't solo heroic dungeon bosses any more or (2) they can't win 1 v. 2 anymore. Welcome to being balanced. If you want to self heal, roll blood spec and presence and you will still heal like a truck. I can solo ozruk heroic in blood spec and pres. Tell me another tank that can do that.
    Tell me a tank that sucks as hard at tanking adds.

    Quote Originally Posted by dotoni View Post
    are u stupid ? ring of frost doesnt freeze asap. it takes x seconds to START freeze
    and doesn't require you to stand in the middle of the battle with no escape tool.

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    the whole game is a perpetual balancing act.. constantly.. the beginning of xpac ppl had to level up to 85 and start in blues and greens. its why they are balancing again. because players are now geared and coming into more raids, more prepared than at start. So blizz AGAIN has to balance this. Its a constant see-saw balancing act. Blizz balances classes in relation to the gear and content, and progression through it; What is available and what is coming out.

    Beginning of xpac toons needed to be a little OP to get geared up without too much grief. Once they are geared up and more content is on its way, blizz swings the balance back a bit, to account for ppl already being geared and used to their new rotations..

    its hard to believe that so many ppl don't catch on to this.. and label everything buffs and nerfs without taking into consideration the context or environment they are currently playing in and what is on the horizon of being released......

  8. #548
    Quote Originally Posted by mupto View Post
    the whole game is a perpetual balancing act.. constantly.. the beginning of xpac ppl had to level up to 85 and start in blues and greens. its why they are balancing again. because players are now geared and coming into more raids, more prepared than at start. So blizz AGAIN has to balance this. Its a constant see-saw balancing act. Blizz balances classes in relation to the gear and content, and progression through it; What is available and what is coming out.

    Beginning of xpac toons needed to be a little OP to get geared up without too much grief. Once they are geared up and more content is on its way, blizz swings the balance back a bit, to account for ppl already being geared and used to their new rotations..

    its hard to believe that so many ppl don't catch on to this.. and label everything buffs and nerfs without taking into consideration the context or environment they are currently playing in and what is on the horizon of being released......
    Yeah sure...because blizzard proofed always to be so ahead of the balancing curve. Despite the fact that I totally fail to see the connection between "what's on the horizon" read what raids are coming up next and the class nerfs discussed in here especially considering that dk's are probably the last class to have some hidden omg scaling is too powerful talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoranzone View Post
    Yeah sure...because blizzard proofed always to be so ahead of the balancing curve. Despite the fact that I totally fail to see the connection between "what's on the horizon" read what raids are coming up next and the class nerfs discussed in here.
    i would advise you to get a job for blizzard since your incredible insight is somehow being overlooked by the blizzard development team. how could they not hire such talent right under their nose.. unless...

  10. #550
    i like this nerf means i actually stand a chance killing a dk now in pvp <3

  11. #551
    Quote Originally Posted by mupto View Post
    i would advise you to get a job for blizzard since your incredible insight is somehow being overlooked by the blizzard development team. how could they not hire such talent right under their nose.. unless...
    Sorry I hardly believe they can effort me and I also believe that there are more suitable candidates in the community already which they just could ask for advice. You know just like they ask for advice on balancing their other big game....perhaps you heard of it. Starcraft
    Last edited by cFortyfive; 2011-06-05 at 04:52 PM.

  12. #552
    Quote Originally Posted by dotoni View Post
    are u stupid ? ring of frost doesnt freeze asap. it takes x seconds to START freeze
    Why don't just make it instant and broken by every damage? Oh noes that'd be too harsh.
    It's funny now to watch DKs wreck healers, ignore casters or even disarms (being melee class themselfs), and still getting their T2 weapons.
    Obviously this stuff has been over the top, and if they implement "Scourge strike" solution for Frost spec, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

  13. #553
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanda View Post
    Nerfbat doesn't stop.

    I have to admit it was a bit necessary
    So... what was the point of this thread...?
    It's LeviOsa, not LeviosAR!

  14. #554
    Quote Originally Posted by Symby View Post
    so if you see them making a class change a buff or a nerf that means they know what they are doing, they have skilled emplyees that are specially trained for such things(ppl that are balancing the game mechanics)! in case one of the changes they made is a verry big nerf or a verry big buff,they will obviously change it in a hotfix!

    Lmfao @ Bolded.

    They have no clue, and never have had any clue, when it comes to Death Knight balance.

    And I think what you mean to say, is if one of the changes they made is a "verry big nerf" they will nerf it EVEN MORE in a hotfix 3 days later. (Unholy anybody?)

  15. #555
    Quote Originally Posted by AFK-Champion View Post
    Why don't just make it instant and broken by every damage? Oh noes that'd be too harsh.
    It's funny now to watch DKs wreck healers, ignore casters or even disarms (being melee class themselfs), and still getting their T2 weapons.
    Obviously this stuff has been over the top, and if they implement "Scourge strike" solution for Frost spec, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
    And the scourge strike solution being dealing 2k damage froststrikes to pvp targets...yeah I can see how you think that this would be great.

  16. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by Dilbert View Post
    This thread has done wonders for my ignore list. If anything is a positive change about these nerfs, that's it!

    And who are you? And why would anybody in this thread care if you ignored them or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breyers View Post
    And who are you? And why would anybody in this thread care if you ignored them or not?
    This is quoted for truth!
    Epic!

  18. #558
    I can never understand what the hell they think theyre doing when they did this and the Death Gate Glyph? They coulda just as easily made the glyph "do absolutely nothing but fill an empty glyph spot in your spell book".

  19. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by tyggyr View Post
    Basically it makes it like the warrior's victory rush, or the paladin's crusade-talented +300% holy light after a kill.

    In other words, good for solo work, but not OP for PvP - but hardly useless.
    Victory Rush is retardedly OP for Battlegrounds. Takes a warrior from almost dead to 50%. It stupid bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breyers View Post
    Lmfao @ Bolded.
    They have no clue, and never have had any clue, when it comes to Death Knight balance.
    And I think what you mean to say, is if one of the changes they made is a "verry big nerf" they will nerf it EVEN MORE in a hotfix 3 days later. (Unholy anybody?)
    QFT. The Devs have no clue what they are doing. They make changes, and then they collect data for a month to see what happens. I'm not being sarcastic, this is what they actually do.
    Last edited by Unferth; 2011-06-06 at 03:13 AM.

  20. #560
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
    I can never understand what the hell they think theyre doing when they did this and the Death Gate Glyph? They coulda just as easily made the glyph "do absolutely nothing but fill an empty glyph spot in your spell book".
    Glyph of Glyphs: Makes all your other glyphs more shiny.
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    @Wingwraith: You can haz a point too, but only because you admit you're a tool!

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