Patch 4.2 Valor Points Rewards, Firelands Ragnaros Video, Blue Posts, Artworks

[Jasper Kazai]

That Draenei's knees look diseased in that last piece of art... Hard to unsee.

[Deleted]

Is there a blue post somewhere saying if the Living Embers will be available for Valor points or not, please ?

[crsh1976]

I honestly wonder why it took Blizzard that many years to add a simple anti-ninjaing such as the one they're putting in.

[good diu bro]

So all my Valor will be justice when patch comes?

So if i have 2000 Valor, its 2000 justice?

You mean if you have 2000 valor and justice, you get 4000 justice or capped at 3000?

[woxingma]

Add need for MS and OS buttons and "unique item"-like mechanic, that would prevent people from rolling need for MS on item if they already have the same or better one in slot. And don't say that "tank isn't my main spec, but I like to go to dung as tank cuz I don't want to wait at 40 min queue - so I'll roll dps gear". MS in that case - is a spec you specify when queuing to LFD. And yes, I think ppl who queued as specific spec to LFD has a priority to roll on "their" type of gear. And only if they don't need this item - only then other specs may roll for OS.

FYI, this is the very suggestion that he was replying to.

[Dawnseven]

Tanks rolling on dps gear makes it harder for dps to gear up and dps rolling on tank gear makes it harder for tanks to gear up.

Lets say you kill a raid boss and a tank item drops, who deserves it more? The mage, the rogue, the other dps or the tank?

Thats why only tanks should be allowed to roll on tank gear and dps on dps gear, if the tank hits greed/disenchant/pass, then and only then would the need button unlock for the other plate-wearing dpsers.

I think all the needing is a byproduct of the disenchant option coming into play. Need if need, greed for offspec, worked pretty well. Now if you don't need it there's a 80% change you're going to watch it turn to dust/essence/shards for someone else. With gogogogogogo there isn't time to stop and have a conversation about it.

[VanishO2]

as said earlier if they were to put in a staff it would have to be a hunter only staff because it would be up for grabs for feral druids, which would make it unfair for the rest of the classes

2H wayyyyys better than a tiny Relic.

The choose to put relics as emblem items so they don't need to spread it trough bosses. It's a small item only used by a few classes that need too much itemization and became useless drop most of the time in Ulduar (or for some ppl, ridiculous hard to upgrade for never dropping the correct relic). They even transform all of them in universal Relics (used to be Idol, Librams and Sigils and totems if I'm not mistaken).

[Dawnseven]

Would like a definitive answer on what happens to current JPs when 4.2 drops. Are your current VPs converted and *added* to your current JPs? Or do your VPs become JPs and your JPs converted to gold or something?

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Anti Ninja Loot System
If only tanks can roll on tank gear, then it becomes really hard for anyone else to build up the gear they need to be able to tank.

Tanks rolling on dps gear makes it harder for dps to gear up and dps rolling on tank gear makes it harder for tanks to gear up.

Lets say you kill a raid boss and a tank item drops, who deserves it more? The mage, the rogue, the other dps or the tank?

Thats why only tanks should be allowed to roll on tank gear and dps on dps gear, if the tank hits greed/disenchant/pass, then and only then would the need button unlock for the other plate-wearing dpsers.

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its so true. i mentioned this before on official site but i c there was more "i want my tank gearz now" then logic..

once a warrDPS needed a tankthingy in BRC normal, i was in gearing progress on my bloodDK, he pulled 500dps throughout the instance and won it.

[Sinister Knight]

RE: warrs taking Abil pieces, yes it does make them tards. There are pleny of Str ranged wpns avail to them for use tanking and dpsing. It just takes a little work, and if you're that impatient that you'd rather buy an agility ranged weapon, you make the rest of the Warrior nation wish you'd reroll. Proper stats far > taking an agil item just for the ilvl. 4 2v2 arena wins at 0 rating = thrown wpn with str on it that's nearly identical to the BoE Carbine gun. It's like when I see people in Zul Pugs asking if they can need on leather (as a hunter) or cloth (as a druid), which would mean breaking their armor bonus for their class. Makes no sense at all, some people just see purple and marginally higher ilvl and get stupid.

RE: VP conversion making your JP go over the 4k cap: I hope they do this, but at the same time if you're planning on buying things with JP that you can get with VP, you might as well buy them with VP now because the cost won't change. And if you are hoping to buy tradeskill mats or something, it's really not worth saving 4k VP just for a few stacks of herbs or ore or what have you, it would take you far less time to farm the mats than it did to get the VP. And if you've already purchased everything you could possibly want with VP for MS and OS's, well then you probably don't care if the conversion goes over cap or not.

[Deleted]

So all my Valor will be justice when patch comes?

So if i have 2000 Valor, its 2000 justice?

Yes.
But there's 4000 cap on Valor.
So if you have, let's say 6000 Valor you will only get 4000 justice, everything above 4000 is gone.

[Bizarro55]

Wrong, there is no cap on Valor, only justice.

[thunderdragon2]

Wrong, there is no cap on Valor, only justice.

wrong theres is a valor cap only that its per week and its 1250 per

and dont the items seem kinda cheap to anyone else?

[Deleted]

Like someone said already, Ragnaros looks quite bad and dull from the waist down.

lvl 60 Raggy had a better swirl around him.

[ClavellBC]

What? No nerdrage on needing on BoE's making the item soulbound if you win it in 4.2?

[Confessor Kahlan]

???

Full T9 and t10 was available in wrath through emblems, what are you talking about?

Tiers 9 and 10 also had 3 different item levels, where 7 8 and 11, all have 2.

[Spammeister]

What? No nerdrage on needing on BoE's making the item soulbound if you win it in 4.2?

The only people who would whine about it are the people who would /need on anything and everything anyways. They don't have an argument.

[Daedius]

It's kind of stupid that they keep doing this. EVERYBODY gets a relic/ranged slot from valor points! Except hunters.

Yeah... I'm sure we use them for a direct improvement on DPS [aka, a weapon]... right?

[Kromtar]

For the people asking about whether any T12 will be buyable with valor, in the Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14179 post farther down on the item list you can see that all 5 slots have a token, with 2 slots having a second type of token. This would be the same as T11 where head/shoulders have a reg and heroic token and everything else has a heroic token, so it should be the same system as T11 with 3 pieces via valor on reg.

[Madcaptn]

what will be the amount of valor points possible per week? 7 bosses + 7 5mans + 7 zandalaries per week = ??