[4.2] Shopping list? (SP)

[Vargur]

It will only include vendor (purchasable with any currency) and crafted items.

Anything else to add at this point?
edit: Tier will be added when more info will become available.

VP Vendor

Wand - 700 - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71151/glowing-ember-wand/
Bracers - 1250 - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71266/f...l-wristguards/
Necklace - 1250 - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71213/firemind-necklace/
Ring 1 - 1250 - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71211/s...mstone-circle/
Ring 2 - 1250 - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71210/c...rimstone-ring/

Avengers of Hyjal

Back - friendly - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71230/r...mewrath-cloak/
Waist - honored - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71258/embereye-belt/
Trinket 1 - revered - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68998/m...-the-firelord/
Trinket 2 - revered - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69000/fiery-quintessence/
Ring 1 - exalted - i391 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71217/i...-the-avengers/
Ring 2 - exalted - i391 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71237/q...-the-avengers/

Crafted

Feet - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69975/p...dream-walkers/
Hands (Tier if possible) - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69965/p...tered-reality/
Main-hand - i365 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70167/p...um-spellblade/

Mark of the World Tree Rewards

Hands - NPC 1 - i365 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70118/widows-clutches/
Off-hand - NPC 2 - i365 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70112/globe-of-moonlight/
Trinket 1 - NPC 2 - i365 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70142/moonwell-chalice/
Ring 1 - NPC 3 - i365 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70124/s...fragment-band/

Auction House (drops from raid)

Staff - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71360/s...-scarlet-pain/
Main-hand - i378 - http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71359/c...lized-scalpel/

Not covered yet

Head
Shoulders - vendor token?
Chest - tier vendor
Legs - tier vendor or drop from BH

[egrus]

Add crafted feet and gloves

[zsun]

Aside from the Bracers and the Wand, I cant say I like the itemizations of the other VP pieces. But then again I can't really be picky at the start of the tier...

[Vargur]

Aside from the Bracers and the Wand, I cant say I like the itemizations of the other VP pieces. But then again I can't really be picky at the start of the tier...

Well, the less mastery the better. We're just fortunate to be able to use spirit items as well.
Will add crafted.

edit: not sure if the trinkets share CD!

[Kayona]

edit: not sure if the trinkets share CD!

If it don't get added in, one trinket should force a 15/25sec CD on the other trinket that you can't use both together (2,4k INT would be too hard in a burst phase. Imagine it with DA and heroism + potion and power torrent = +30% haste + ~4k INT; get a disc for PI and I imagine HUGE crits/ticks :] ).
If they share a cooldown we will most likely only pick the trinket with spirit and reforge it to haste because of the 25sec proc instead of the 15sec proc on the trinket with crit.


Add as 2H staff the legendary or the first model. The requirements are "only" 25 of the new primordial saronites (Living Embers) and maybe one or two quests outside the raid, if I remember correct.
It will be expensive but a good weapon even if you don't get it to the "legendary" point with the proc.

Edit: On top of the Living Embers, three Sands of Time, 3k each, are needed.

[Vargur]

Add as 2H staff the legendary or the first model. The requirements are "only" 25 of the new primordial saronites and maybe one or two quests outside the raid, if I remember correct.
It will be expensive but a good weapon even if you don't get it to the "legendary" point with the proc.

No, no, no.. it's not a BiS list. You can't actually buy the legendary with any kind of currency, so I'm not gonna add it.

[Kayona]

No, no, no.. it's not a BiS list. You can't actually buy the legendary with any kind of currency, so I'm not gonna add it.

I don't mean the legendary itself. The first part of it should be buyable. It will be VERY expensive but it is possible. I guess it will be similar to the first part of Shadowmourne. Pretty good until you hit the hardmodes and later in 4.2 you can buy it for twinks due to the lower costs of Living Embers if most peaple got what they wanted.
But the rewards for each quest aren't released so I may be wrong.

QUESTLINE SPOILER

[Roosky]

This is not a BiS list, stop adding random loot to a list that you think is BiS, Volcano Card is still BiS in 4.2 until heroic baleroc trinket, otherwise you will be using the baleroc normal + volcano card, it just looks like you added any loot available that had intellect on it to the list.

[Vargur]

This is not a BiS list, stop adding random loot to a list that you think is BiS, Volcano Card is still BiS in 4.2 until heroic baleroc trinket, otherwise you will be using the baleroc normal + volcano card, it just looks like you added any loot available that had intellect on it to the list.

Nobody said it is a BiS/random list. It is what it says it is, if you care to read.

[Skyve]

This is not a BiS list, stop adding random loot to a list that you think is BiS, Volcano Card is still BiS in 4.2 until heroic baleroc trinket, otherwise you will be using the baleroc normal + volcano card, it just looks like you added any loot available that had intellect on it to the list.

I wonder how so many people are able to write, yet still lack the most basic reading skills.

[fuds]

*rubs hands*
cant wait for new ilvl gear

[Vargur]

I'm thinking the new stats will allow us to reach hit cap with a much greater ease.

Looks like "Ayla Shadowstorm - Filling the Moonwell" would be an ideal first choice, from my point of view, for the Firelands dailies (although engineers would rush for the new schematics, and possibly BS priests as well)

[Shartadin]

I'm thinking the new stats will allow us to reach hit cap with a much greater ease.

Looks like "Ayla Shadowstorm - Filling the Moonwell" would be an ideal first choice, from my point of view, for the Firelands dailies (although engineers would rush for the new schematics, and possibly BS priests as well)

I can't play PTR yet, but can anyone tell me if they have raised the hit cap? I know there was a mention of it at one point in the distant past by a Blue... and it makes sense to do it eventually (maybe not for this tier since its such a struggle for certain classes to itemize well and hit cap). Since I haven't heard anything, I'm guessing its unchanged on the PTR so far? If it is, then stat inflation will make it trivial to hit cap as a spriest at least (thanks to greater selection, plus I see LOTS of hit/haste items out their from various sources... good stuff). I have a feeling the value of hit could go up a bit, as well, though its just my feeling with no math to back it up. Mind blast, SW, and even mind flay which I believe all rely on hit more than dots do, doing more damage could raise the value of hit.

On a second note, I agree with you, and that trinket from the dailies looks verrrry nice. If I'm not mistaken, if it's hit on cooldown its PP value is technically higher than H:TM. Due to the abuse of the proc on TM and not wanting to actually hit the daily trinket on cooldown every time (i.e., right before a burn phase), it may not actually be better, but it appears to smash the living hell out of DMC:V. Am I right on this? On the same token, though, int with int proc seems OP. I almost expect a change, as it seems too good.

[Milkshake86]

If it don't get added in, one trinket should force a 15/25sec CD on the other trinket that you can't use both together (2,4k INT would be too hard in a burst phase. Imagine it with DA and heroism + potion and power torrent = +30% haste + ~4k INT; get a disc for PI and I imagine HUGE crits/ticks :] ).
If they share a cooldown we will most likely only pick the trinket with spirit and reforge it to haste because of the 25sec proc instead of the 15sec proc on the trinket with crit.


Add as 2H staff the legendary or the first model. The requirements are "only" 25 of the new primordial saronites (Living Embers) and maybe one or two quests outside the raid, if I remember correct.
It will be expensive but a good weapon even if you don't get it to the "legendary" point with the proc.

Edit: On top of the Living Embers, three Sands of Time, 3k each, are needed.

imagine if lust and PI stacked

[Vargur]

Updated with Auction House.

[Shartadin]

I feel like a prophet (not really, it was obviously coming) - the dailies trinket was changed from int on click to mastery on click. However, this is not actually a very bad thing - it's like a TM with a proc YOU control. I'm still very happy with that. It should still be much better than DMC:V.

Edit: Source http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=70142

MMO's ptr dbase is outdated on this item. Wowhead shows the mastery click. Very good trinket nonetheless.

[Kayona]

I feel like a prophet (not really, it was obviously coming) - the dailies trinket was changed from int on click to mastery on click. However, this is not actually a very bad thing - it's like a TM with a proc YOU control. I'm still very happy with that. It should still be much better than DMC:V.

Edit: Source http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=70142

MMO's ptr dbase is outdated on this item. Wowhead shows the mastery click. Very good trinket nonetheless.

Well that let it become a "mirror 2.0" without the problem of a procchance of only 10(or 20?)%
We sould be able to "abuse" the use effect better then the proc (3orb MB with AA or with heroism)!

[Shartadin]

Well that let it become a "mirror 2.0" without the problem of a procchance of only 10(or 20?)%
We sould be able to "abuse" the use effect better then the proc (3orb MB with AA or with heroism)!

Pretty much. For this particular type of trinket, I'd say use > proc. For int or other secondary stat procs, I'd normally rather a proc and worry about other things.

[spiralout]

I feel like a prophet (not really, it was obviously coming) - the dailies trinket was changed from int on click to mastery on click. However, this is not actually a very bad thing - it's like a TM with a proc YOU control. I'm still very happy with that. It should still be much better than DMC:V.

I agree that the on use mastery will be more useful than the proc on Mirror, but the PP of this trinket is almost exactly the same as the 359 version of Mirror. This isn't going to "be much better than DMC:V". Not even close.

[Shartadin]

I agree that the on use mastery will be more useful than the proc on Mirror, but the PP of this trinket is almost exactly the same as the 359 version of Mirror. This isn't going to "be much better than DMC:V". Not even close.

Yeah, my mistake. I derped. For some reason forgot to reevaluate that part of my evaluation. It is a nice upgrade to TM non-heroic.