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  1. #81
    Lemme see...

    Caster DPS gear for each classes...
    2 Tank rings, one relic, one trinket, one wrist...

    8 bs plans vs 2 engi plans, 2 lw, 1 tailor...

    Absolutely no stuff for healing priests.

    I don't know, who planning rewards at Blizzard, but I hate him anyway.

  2. #82
    Another thing is, do these npcs require 125 marks each or 125 together, cause with the quality of rewards, dont think its even worth the time for this if its 375 you need in total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andaja View Post
    Another thing is, do these npcs require 125 marks each or 125 together, cause with the quality of rewards, dont think its even worth the time for this if its 375 you need in total.
    125 each.

    In total its 695 as you need to collect 300 for the shadow wardens and Druids of talon and 20 at the start.

    When you complete them all you get the flaming hippogryph. I need 16 on ptr for it
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  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    Basically yeah. These are progression for players doing heroics and questing, not for raiders. It is exactly the same as the epics you could buy at the argent tournament... No raiders were looking at those weapons licking their lips. By the time you can get these rewards, most guilds will have 4 or 5 weeks of Firelands raiding done.

    Blizzard would never give BIS, or even top iLevel items from daily quests. These are items that are meant for progression for players who are not raiding. It´s kinda like the reverse argument when you see people saying ´why do casuals need tier items if they aren´t raiding´.. the answer here is ´why do raiders think they can get BIS raid items from questing´.

    These are items that will be used to augment the new VP gear and to give none raiders further gear progression. Remember, most players do not raid... this is their progrssion.
    Well, as far as doing normal raids count as raiding, these items are not justified to be as is whatsoever.

    Surely I'm butthurt at a disc MS holy OS priest seeing the ilvl365 items without a single point of spirit. Just like when I saw the lame tailoring epic legs without spirit either. Ye I know, reforge, still not remotely the same.

    However, are you suggesting that casuals don't need spirit or hit? Guess that shouldn't be that way... then again, I have to grind all these dailies for some mounts vanity pets or recipes etc etc? Awesome motivation right there.

    Imo, these items should be well itemized, with stats between somewhere under the tier 12 items - a good boost for the early raids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andaja View Post
    Another thing is, do these npcs require 125 marks each or 125 together, cause with the quality of rewards, dont think its even worth the time for this if its 375 you need in total.

    You need to earn 695 marks in total, which if I calculate correctly will take you somewhere between 48 and 56 days. Nice two months of grinding


    (Used wowpedia page for questreward and handin amounts)

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    DLC is 1 week old, new one is #290.

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    No craftable weapons for Enhancement Shamans .... ZzZzzZZ ... and stupid haste on every piece of mail ... yay, already looking forward to this crap (that was sarcasm)
    Last edited by myrddinde; 2011-05-30 at 11:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khymar View Post
    You need to earn 695 marks in total, which if I calculate correctly will take you somewhere between 48 and 56 days. Nice two months of grinding


    (Used wowpedia page for questreward and handin amounts)
    This depends on the combo of dailies you get each day. They arent always the same and some give 2 and some only give one.

    I have earned 679 marks since PTR starting (i.e. 16 left from getting mount) and have completed 377 dailies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khymar View Post
    You need to earn 695 marks in total, which if I calculate correctly will take you somewhere between 48 and 56 days. Nice two months of grinding


    (Used wowpedia page for questreward and handin amounts)
    Souds "awe-inspiring". It's only probably really worth to do the grind till all BS recipes on a BS char. There is some profit in these weapons. Otherwise it's a timesink for the sake of timesink.
    I mean when it is even remotely entertaining to do any dailies more than 2-3 times???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airath View Post
    Souds "awe-inspiring". It's only probably really worth to do the grind till all BS recipes on a BS char. There is some profit in these weapons. Otherwise it's a timesink for the sake of timesink.
    I mean when it is even remotely entertaining to do any dailies more than 2-3 times???
    They're actually fun and as I've said a few times now you get a mount at the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geomatician View Post
    They're actually fun and as I've said a few times now you get a mount at the end of it.
    Giving you a mount for 60* days of grinding the same quests is not really an adequate reward, or well it's accepted in WoW for whatever reason. After having 120+ mounts already I could't give a shit about one additional mount for which I have to endure repeating quests.

    If the quests would be different it's a different story, which could be easily done, but instead of questing for one week i.e. 7 or 14 days of fresh quests each day, they decided people should die a little each of those 60* days doing the same quests over and over.

    I'll do them, but asap as I unlock everything this shit daily zone wont see me again like with all the previous daily zones and daily quests in general. I do not know if non-raiders enjoy the game by doing the same quests over and over for a year or two, but I guess they don't so forcing everyone in a 60* day long grind is kinda missed.

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    LOL! What's a wand?

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by deemer2150 View Post
    Well, as far as doing normal raids count as raiding, these items are not justified to be as is whatsoever.

    Surely I'm butthurt at a disc MS holy OS priest seeing the ilvl365 items without a single point of spirit. Just like when I saw the lame tailoring epic legs without spirit either. Ye I know, reforge, still not remotely the same.

    However, are you suggesting that casuals don't need spirit or hit? Guess that shouldn't be that way... then again, I have to grind all these dailies for some mounts vanity pets or recipes etc etc? Awesome motivation right there.

    Imo, these items should be well itemized, with stats between somewhere under the tier 12 items - a good boost for the early raids.
    No, they do not require hit, or even the spirit beyond what they can get from other pieces or can reforge these pieces to. Remember, their mana pools will be going up drastically with this gear, as will their crit, which makes healing more efficient. There is also that big change coming where heal crits are at 200% now. I think you are applying rules for progressive raiding that do not apply to the people this gear is intended for. We will be getting this gear many weeks after 4.2 hits, which means most players will have a few pieces of 378 bought with VP, will probably have every piece of 359 bought with JP.... that type if ilvl will put you absurdly over the gear needed to heal troll heroics and T11. My main healer is also Disc, and I fully expect to be doing mostly smite-healing in the troll heroics, similar to what I am doing now in the normal heroics when I go for satchels.

  14. #94
    There are some things noticed after the moonwell completed:

    1. There are some fruits useful near the moonwell and they won't consumed. http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=70927

    2. The daily quest "The Protectors of Hyjal" http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=29128 will gone. That means you will lose 2marks per day.
    I don't sure if it's a bug or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Minus View Post
    Giving you a mount for 60* days of grinding the same quests is not really an adequate reward, or well it's accepted in WoW for whatever reason. After having 120+ mounts already I could't give a shit about one additional mount for which I have to endure repeating quests.

    If the quests would be different it's a different story, which could be easily done, but instead of questing for one week i.e. 7 or 14 days of fresh quests each day, they decided people should die a little each of those 60* days doing the same quests over and over.

    I'll do them, but asap as I unlock everything this shit daily zone wont see me again like with all the previous daily zones and daily quests in general. I do not know if non-raiders enjoy the game by doing the same quests over and over for a year or two, but I guess they don't so forcing everyone in a 60* day long grind is kinda missed.
    Begs the question of what the hell you're doing still playing the game or caring about anything outside of raids or pvp if you hate quests/dailies so much.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Geomatician View Post
    Begs the question of what the hell you're doing still playing the game or caring about anything outside of raids or pvp if you hate quests/dailies so much.
    He probably only cares about raiding and there is very little for raiders this patch compared to the casuals.

  17. #97
    ilevel 365? HAHAAHAH

    so basically anyone who has raided or done arena has no need for these items already.

    anyone who hasn't can get equivalent items in a week of farming heroics, faster than farming gated dailies for a month rofl rofl rofl

    blizzard are so dumb it's ridiculous sometimes

    by the way this place is gank city on the PTR pity no one will go there on live except for badly geared noobs and far better geared world pvp starved arena players who will camp the living daylights out of them

    GL WITH THAT
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    Jesus Christ, do people forget this is the PTR? That it is not yet FINISHED?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWildmann View Post
    Jesus Christ, do people forget this is the PTR? That it is not yet FINISHED?
    Yup you're completely correct.
    Blizzard still has time to tune down the collection rates of the Marks so that this grind will take 4 months.

    That's how Blizzard works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by methus View Post
    On ptr trinkets do have mentioned states/procs etc. Just fyi for people who think stats are not right.
    Checked it again today and Moonwell still has 1700mastery not intellect as the proc.

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