No, it's definitely Sauron. It's been a while since I've read the books, but I am 100% certain the Necromancer was Sauron.I'm pretty sure it was the witch-king not Sauron himself
why did rotten tomatoes give the hobbit 65%? i mean they gave all the lotro movies 90+%
Milk was a bad choice.
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Good film, but im getting old and My bum was aching , really needed 5/10 minute recess with these longer films
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Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.
Obviously not the case if I read a book without a movie adaption though.
(who is also sauron).
Side note, anyone else concerned about Cumberbunch (no idea how to spell his name) being the voice of smaug? I mean I get everyone loves him and stuff, he just doesn't have a very dragonish voice imo.
I didn't read the book (nor every page in this long thread), but I was wondering if some people could clear some stuff up for me.
The 13 dwarves in this movie, is that all that remain from the orginial kingdom in the mountain? The rest were either killed by Smaug or died in that war with the Orcs?
Speaking of this war, I was confused as what the purpose of this was? What were they fighting for? A new homeland they had found?
The Heart of the Mountain, is this gem what Smaug truly wanted? Is the gem still resting with him in the city in the mountain?
Finally a timeline, is this accurate? Smaug takes over city --> King Oakenshield behead, Thrain lost in war with Orcs --> Bilbo and 13 begin journey to take home city back. This is now 60 years after Smaug has taken over the city, which is why they assume he is no longer there? I guess Dwarves age very well since Thorin looks exactly the same 60 years later? :P
Thanks for the help
Anybody worried about Benedict Cumberbatch's Voice for Smaug should realize there is a thing called Voice Acting.
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Heart of the mountain is still with Smaug, he took the mountian because Dragons just like gold.
its been 200 years since Smaug took the mountain, and yes Thorin Oakenshield looks similar because Dwarves live a long time so he is still a Youngish Dwarf
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077687/ Richard Boone was the voice of smaug and was brilliant. I'd search for a clip of it on youtube to show you but I can't see youtube at work
I also think that Keith David's would have been great for smaug. For mean I think a voice needs to have a deep and large quality to it.
Benedict Cumberbatch (i looked it up :P ) seems like he can definitely do the arrogant part, but the over powering awe inducing aspect.... idk. I am also incredibly curious what he will look like exactly. Sad we didn't see more of him in the first movie
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