Last edited by Tradu; 2012-12-19 at 07:47 AM.
Well, the istari are ainur and have a "real" name that was used among them. Gandalf's real name is for example Olórin, Saruman's is Curumo and Radagast's is Aiwendil. Alatar and Pallando are the such names of the blue wizards.
Morinehtar and Rómestámo are probably the names they have "acquired" after they arrived in Middle-Earth (such as Mithrandir, or Gandalf, or Curunír).
Ah, but only probably. It's never specified what's their real name, or if Tolkien decided to change their names. He apparantly had a thing for giving characters and places names and suddenly changing them. ..To be fair, I actually never thought about what you Said before, only thing that crossed my mind was new names. It's nice to get opinions from others who knows their lore.
I thought Curunir was his real name.. I really should get around to reading those books!
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Saw it last night, IMAX 3D. Bloody brilliant film, the frame rate was a non-issue and the film was fantastic. Just make sure to get the right seat if you go to an IMAX to see it. I was seated near the right side of the theatre near the back, but there were issues with the offset frames to the far left of the screen just because of the size of it.
I'd imagine if you were seat dead centre, this wouldn't be a problem at all.
EDIT: The only real bugbear with me was Azog. Not that he was added at all or anything like that, but the fact that the CGI was so obvious for him more than any of the other fauna of middle earth. I just wished they'd used a real human actor for him and just got prosethetics to do what worked so well in the LOTR.
Last edited by mmoc18c6ab442b; 2012-12-19 at 10:39 AM.
Can I possibly get an idea of where in the book it says that? I don't think that is exactly right. I mean the whole point of the Uruk-hai (aside from just in general being stronger than orcs) was they could travel and fight by day with no problems.
That bothered me as well. I really wish they had done that as well. The way they meshed miniatures, real actors, and CGI was part of what made the LotR movies so impressive to me. Now it feels like they are relying on CGI too much.
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/GoblinsHaldir tells the Fellowship that Orcs will pursue enemies for long distances, even during the day, to avenge the death of a chieftain.
It implies that Orcs (otherwise known as goblins) have some kind of difficulty in the sun. This is obviously not from The Hobbit, though, but from FotR
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Can never say these things are 100%, but I could almost guarentee the Silmarillion will never be made into a movie. I love the book, but the scope is just too massive to be made into a movie of any length.
The book in general is too vague (The valar's assault on Angand? The sundering of Beleriand), yet there are sections that are massively detailed (ungoliant and her deal with morgoth to snuff out the lights) .
Unless they used material from the Histories of middle earth, a movie would be too light. If they did use material from said histories, the movie would be ridiculous.
Also, it's really not the type of material I think Peter Jackson would be comfortable with adapting. For the type of movie as I think it would be, Ang Lee would be the best choice, the guy has just got a vision for challenges no-one else wants to (Life of Pi is AMAZINGGGGG!)
If you want the Silmarillion in another format, you should look up the Album 'Nightfall in Middle Earth' by Blind Guardian. It's a frigging fantastic concept album covering the Silmarillion to the sound of some of the only Power Metal I can stand
I had completely forgotten about that. Very good point. Though I think PJ did it in LOTR too didn't he? Considering the other things he's changed, ignoring the Orc/Goblins "disdain" for sunlight is probably pretty minor though.
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Pretty much the same thing.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Orc
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It really stands out when you compare pictures of Azog to Bolg. Bolg is just as obviously not CGI as Azog obviously is. It doesn't ruin the movie but it throws speed bumps in front of you that didn't need to be there.
Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.
Fili and Thorin look like Nicolas Cage
Well in LotR you have the Uruk-hai who were bread to be able to be out in the daylight without suffering any ill effects. However, now that I think about it more the Uruk-hai do meet up with the Mordor Orcs (which is why they get into a fight about where to take the ring). I think in the movie they met-up during the daytime (but didn't get into the fight until night), but I am not sure. I am also not sure exactly how all that happened in the book either. If Tolkien did have it happen during daytime though that would be interesting. I'll have to take a look at stuff when I get home tonight and see.
That's pretty much it. As soon as I saw him I immediately thought "oh they completely CGI'ed him" which took me out of the movie for a moment.
Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.