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  • Thorin Oakenshield

    52 33.77%
  • Balin

    21 13.64%
  • Bifur

    4 2.60%
  • Bofur

    7 4.55%
  • Bombur

    18 11.69%
  • Dori

    1 0.65%
  • Dwalin

    16 10.39%
  • Fili

    5 3.25%
  • Kili

    19 12.34%
  • Gloin

    8 5.19%
  • Nori

    1 0.65%
  • Oin

    0 0%
  • Ori

    2 1.30%
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  1. #1341
    I was dissapointed by it. I didn't read the book, but from previous experience, theres alot of story butchering that goes on when a book gets filmed.

    It all came to easy for them, its like everytime there was a problem, a Deus Ex Machina happened.
    Moments like the Mountain Giant fights couldv easily been left out, it was unneeded and again they escape such a thing without a scratch.

    There were some funny moments, the Troll part comes to mind, but i was overall dissapointed, and i'm a huge fan of the LotR trilogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powell View Post
    I was dissapointed by it. I didn't read the book, but from previous experience, theres alot of story butchering that goes on when a book gets filmed.

    It all came to easy for them, its like everytime there was a problem, a Deus Ex Machina happened.
    Moments like the Mountain Giant fights couldv easily been left out, it was unneeded and again they escape such a thing without a scratch.

    There were some funny moments, the Troll part comes to mind, but i was overall dissapointed, and i'm a huge fan of the LotR trilogy.
    The majority of that movie happened in the book. Even the mountain giants. As for the Deus Ex Machina comment: Kinda like in Lord of the Rings? Where the humans are getting pounded hard and about to lose, then lo and behold! Deus Ex Machina comes riding along on thousands of horses! Helm's Deep: Defenders are getting pounded hard (even in the ass, in a way), and here comes Deus Ex Machina riding in with Gandalf and the Rohirrim to save the day! Pelenor Fields: Gondor is getting pounded relentlessly by tens of thousands of orcs, and here comes Deus Ex Machina riding in with Theoden and his Rohirrim barrelling into the orcs. But what's that? The oliphant riders with their pachiderms standing hundred feet high come and flatten the Rohirrim. Lo! Deus Ex Machina comes sailing along with Aragorn and his dead traitors to save the day.

    Why are people surprised about this? Tolkien seems to have loved Deus Ex Machina. A theme of the Hobbit is: Dwarves get caught, Bilbo saves them. Sometimes Bilbo gets caught as well, in which case Gandalf saves them. It's a running theme of the whole movies/book. Just like what I mentioned about Lord of the Rings. A giant force appears at just the right convenient time to save the day.

  3. #1343
    After having seen the film in Imax 3D, I'd have to say it's pretty much excellent. I liked almost everything about it, the goofiness in parts was a tad excessive, but after the quieter sections, I can only assume it's to help keep the kids under control, especially if watching such a long film. I would say that the dwarves introduction was fairly necessary. A lot of people have suggested it wasn't needed, but I disagree. It gave weight and value to their plight and instantly strung together a cohesive narrative for what was to follow.

    The 3D usage in the film was excellent. There were no major 'IN YOUR FACE' kind of moments, just a brief bit that I recall with one of the burning pinecones flying at the camera. The rest of the time, the 3D was simply used to increase the perceivable depth, much like in Prometheus. The backgrounds were expansive and fantastically designed, characters located at varying points in the fore-background regions to show it off. The scale of the areas became clear with the subtle usage. Fights were dynamic and multi-layered, switching back and forth between different heights and ranges, the camera often panning and casually diving to show more and more interesting angles. The battle between the giants was a specifically amazing part, both due to the effects in general and the layering usage of the 3D.

    Potentially, if anything was wrong with the film, is that it may have been over long for some. I myself was not bothered by the film's length, however, I can easily see it having a dragging effect for those who were expecting something a lot more action heavy. However, I often think that the journey should be half the story of any Tolkien work - the time taken for things to happen is relevant.

    The acting for the most part was top notch, from all of the cast. Sure, some of the dwarves don't have much time to express themselves and you may not remember their names, but you know how they'll act as they show up in another scene. The old guys sure are getting old though and it does show. Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee are both still brilliantly understated, regardless. And I would agree that Richard Armitage has carved himself a new cinematic Aragorn almost immediately, where as Martin Freeman is subtly comedic and instantly likeable in the roll of Bilbo. I'll be extremely fascinated to see Benedict Cumberbatch play out his rolls as both Necromancer and Smaug in the follow up.

    So over all, in my opinion, an excellent film. And the most important factor: Did I feel as though I'd been on a journey at the end of it?

    Yes, yes I did.

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    Was the awesome movie we saw in theatres considered the Extended Edition or is that only for the Blu-Ray/DVD releases?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northy View Post
    Was the awesome movie we saw in theatres considered the Extended Edition or is that only for the Blu-Ray/DVD releases?
    Im guessing its not the extended edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verazh View Post
    Im guessing its not the extended edition.
    Hmm what's the lengths of the EE for the Lotr movies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northy View Post
    Hmm what's the lengths of the EE for the Lotr movies?
    Every extended version is about 20-40 minutes longer than the normal version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northy View Post
    Hmm what's the lengths of the EE for the Lotr movies?
    Return of the king has 252 minuten extended
    The Two Towers has 235 minutes extended
    The fellowship of the ring has 228 min extended
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    See I don't agree with the "logic" of that at all. That was the whole point of Faramir's character... that he was one of the few people who were able resist the ring. In the book when I read that part my reaction wasn't "OMRG the ring is Weak" it was "wow, Faramir has a strong sense of self and is rather wise".
    For me, I loved how he was portrayed in the movie ... It wasn't so much the corruption of the Ring, but the Approval of his father which he desired above all else. He saw bringing The Ring back as a way to gain his fathers respect. So in essence he still was resistant to the power of the ring, but he couldn't resist that chance to gain favor in his father's eyes by bringing back the Ring. The Faramir part always gave me chills, because it made me realise that the Ring has power beyond just that of 'simple corruption', even if someone is completely resistant to it's 'evil power', there are other ways the Ring can still corrupt people.

    But of course everyone looks at things differently, and I can respect people having certain dislikes with certain parts of LOTR, or any film for that matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gsara View Post
    Did anyone else get chills when the they started singing Misty Mountains? Loved the movie.
    I sure as hell did, but I actually found that I preferred 'Blunt the Knives' (Of course they were both fucking amazing though), purely because the transition into the song was just seamless, whereas Misty Mountains they kind of had to put that transition in on purpose. When Bofur said, 'Oh you hear that lads? He says we'll blunt the knives' ... And then the song starts it was just fucking perfect.

    Seen the movie 3 times now, definitely would not going back to 24FPS, If I went to watch another time it would be nice to see it in Non-3D 48FPS, purely for comparison purposes. But alas, the movie is just beautiful and I so can't wait for Movies 2 and 3. Plus GIVE ME THE EXTENDED EDITION!!!!

    Edit: Also don't know if anyone else agreed, but I loved both Bofur's character and the actor. He got most of the lines out of all the Dwarves apart from Thorin, I loved the Actors Accent and he was such a cool character.
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    I went and saw this yesterday, wanted to see it opening day in Aus but stupid Christmas stuff kept me from doing so and I fucking loved it, I have always been iffy about movies that were originally books but peter jackson did an outstanding job, it actually really annoys me that we have to wait a whole year for movie 2 and then another for the third but hands down best movie I've seen this year and I can't wait to pick up the EE.

    Just on a side note, have they got a soundtrack out for the movie? Every piece was amazing and gave me chills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daverid View Post
    For me, I loved how he was portrayed in the movie ... It wasn't so much the corruption of the Ring, but the Approval of his father which he desired above all else. He saw bringing The Ring back as a way to gain his fathers respect. So in essence he still was resistant to the power of the ring, but he couldn't resist that chance to gain favor in his father's eyes by bringing back the Ring. The Faramir part always gave me chills, because it made me realise that the Ring has power beyond just that of 'simple corruption', even if someone is completely resistant to it's 'evil power', there are other ways the Ring can still corrupt people.
    Actually that makes sense. If PJ had said that instead of the other I would have felt way better about it. But yes desire for his father's approval and how he had always been the less favored son (partially due to his thinking nature and friendship with Gandalf) was something that was made clear in the books as well. Either way the scene when he ride back out to Osgiliath was heartbreakingly well done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrogan View Post
    Just on a side note, have they got a soundtrack out for the movie? Every piece was amazing and gave me chills.
    Yep it is out. It is fantastic!
    http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Unexpec...bit+soundtrack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsara View Post
    Did anyone else get chills when the they started singing Misty Mountains? Loved the movie.
    Personally, outside of the lonely mountain scene, the dwarves singing that song was the best part of the movie for me.

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    Tbh for me to get a real opinion about this movie i need to have seen all 3 parts too realy give it a good rating as with the Tlotr when i say the fellowship i couldnt realy rate it as i didnt understand most of it and it wasnt till i saw TTT when i realy started too understand a lot thats why i cant wait for part 2 so i can give this movie a better view.
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    Beautiful, perfect movie. Picked up a copy of the soundtrack (Howard Shore is a master!)

    This one is my favourite, had it on repeat for the last several hours!
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    it appears to be blocked in my country (usa). Sad times

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    well.... that was interesting.

    just went to go and see it, film started at 12:15 , i got there a little late just before 12:15, and the guy at the counter said i was the only person who has turned up to watch it, he gave me 3d ticket for half price (£6 instead of £12) and a free bag of sweets with my coke i brought there, and then when i went inside he said i could sit on the premium seats (really comfortable!!) at the back as no one else was here. i was actually the only person in the entire cinema watching it. was good, like my own private cinema. i would go to the early viewing again. when i left there was another showing of it about to start, and it was packed, they were queueing up outside the door, all i could think was suckers!!

    anyhow, amazing film!!the only bit i didn't really like was the ogres, i think they made them a bit too silly, sounded more like they belong in a kids cartoon than this. and at the end could the eagles have dropped the dwarves off in anymore of an inconvienent location? there on top of a tall rock with no path down! loved golum, he actually sounded totally insane at times, a complete lunatic. loved the film, cant wait for part 2!!
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    only bit i didn't really like was the ogres, i think they made them a bit too silly, sounded more like they belong in a kids cartoon than this.
    They were exactly like that in the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    anyhow, amazing film!!the only bit i didn't really like was the ogres, i think they made them a bit too silly, sounded more like they belong in a kids cartoon than this. and at the end could the eagles have dropped the dwarves off in anymore of an inconvienent location? there on top of a tall rock with no path down! loved golum, he actually sounded totally insane at times, a complete lunatic. loved the film, cant wait for part 2!!
    The Hobbit is a kids cartoon.

    From what I've heard the rock that they got dropped off on is explained a lot more in the books and we might know more about it in the next film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    well.... that was interesting.

    just went to go and see it, film started at 12:15 , i got there a little late just before 12:15, and the guy at the counter said i was the only person who has turned up to watch it, he gave me 3d ticket for half price (£6 instead of £12) and a free bag of sweets with my coke i brought there, and then when i went inside he said i could sit on the premium seats (really comfortable!!) at the back as no one else was here. i was actually the only person in the entire cinema watching it. was good, like my own private cinema. i would go to the early viewing again. when i left there was another showing of it about to start, and it was packed, they were queueing up outside the door, all i could think was suckers!!

    anyhow, amazing film!!the only bit i didn't really like was the ogres, i think they made them a bit too silly, sounded more like they belong in a kids cartoon than this. and at the end could the eagles have dropped the dwarves off in anymore of an inconvienent location? there on top of a tall rock with no path down! loved golum, he actually sounded totally insane at times, a complete lunatic. loved the film, cant wait for part 2!!
    I kinda like the Highway trolls. Pretty close to how i imagined them (Tolkiens drawings looks abit different - but i think he would be pleased with Wetas trolls tbh).
    The Eagles didnt so much rescue the dwarfs to help them as to piss of the varges and orcs wich they hate. They are not friendly animals. They brought the party to the Lord of Eagles nest because he wants to speak with Gandalf.

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