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  • Thorin Oakenshield

    65 34.21%
  • Balin

    29 15.26%
  • Bifur

    4 2.11%
  • Bofur

    9 4.74%
  • Bombur

    20 10.53%
  • Dori

    2 1.05%
  • Dwalin

    20 10.53%
  • Fili

    8 4.21%
  • Kili

    22 11.58%
  • Gloin

    8 4.21%
  • Nori

    1 0.53%
  • Oin

    0 0%
  • Ori

    2 1.05%
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    I saw the Hobbit last week, and I enjoyed it immensely. I loved seeing Radaghast on screen after reading about him in the books, and I can't wait to see Beorn (one of my favourite characters) in part 2. I think they could have done it as two separate 3 hour movies like with the 3 LotR movies, but it just means there is more to look forward to in each December for the next couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dwarf Lover View Post
    I saw the Hobbit last week, and I enjoyed it immensely. I loved seeing Radaghast on screen after reading about him in the books, and I can't wait to see Beorn (one of my favourite characters) in part 2. I think they could have done it as two separate 3 hour movies like with the 3 LotR movies, but it just means there is more to look forward to in each December for the next couple years.
    December 2013 ... But then we only have to wait 6/7 months till June/July 2014... Man if I had to wait another year for the Battle of the Five Armies I'd pull my hair out. Movie 1 ended on a nice point to wait and continue when we get around to it, but Movie 2 is going to end of a massive Cliffhanger.

    And yea I'll agree with just about everyone who says it could have been done in 2 movies. They easily could have cut out the whole business with Azog, Radaghast and just left Movie 1 off perhaps at when they escape the Elves. But honestly, it's going to be so much better in 3 parts. It's going to allow for such a better connection with LOTR (even in the first movie we can already see the insane amount of foreshadowing) and allow for such a more perfect, rich and detailed adaptation.

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    Loved Bombur haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    i know the trolls are suppose to be stupid, i just dont think they fit with the rest of the film, but apart from that it was excellent.
    It's more like the rest of the film doesn't fit with the ogres, because IMO the ogres are the scene that is the most on par with the book. And still it was edited

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daverid View Post
    But honestly, it's going to be so much better in 3 parts. It's going to allow for such a better connection with LOTR (even in the first movie we can already see the insane amount of foreshadowing) and allow for such a more perfect, rich and detailed adaptation.
    Well, they did a good job so far.

    Having seen An Unexpected Journey and rewatching the Fellowship of the Ring, I finally get the reference "Darkness crept back into the forests of the world. Rumor grew of a shadow in the east. Whispers of a nameless fear."

    Maybe it was obvious to some, but I never made the connection because I only read the first half of The Hobbit. Now I realize it's about the Necromancer.

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    Dont know if anyone else noticed this but for a movie with a budget like this i just couldnt stop thinking about it.
    When thorin got pissed at fili and kili teasing bilbo about orcs and walked away and balin went to explain why thorin has the most reasons to hate orcs and the flashback of the battle infront of moria came Thrór was hitting some orcs with air just waving his shield around but not hitting any orc eventho they still hit the ground :P i found it to be very sloppy made by peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    Dont know if anyone else noticed this but for a movie with a budget like this i just couldnt stop thinking about it.
    When thorin got pissed at fili and kili teasing bilbo about orcs and walked away and balin went to explain why thorin has the most reasons to hate orcs and the flashback of the battle infront of moria came Thrór was hitting some orcs with air just waving his shield around but not hitting any orc eventho they still hit the ground :P i found it to be very sloppy made by peter
    o.o You've got a good eye, I just checked out that scene (I'll buy it for real when it's out!) and if you actually focus on Thrór it's very visible! >< I never really looked at a particular dwarf right there so I never saw it.
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    Well the reason i particulary focused on that dwarf is coz he is wearing a crown so knowning it was Thror i couldnt realy focus on anything else besides him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daverid View Post
    Eeeehhh ... Some things are opinion, and other things are fact. Fact is that this had better CGI then LOTR. It would be like comparing 'Return of the Jedi' with Revenge of the Sith' .... Opinion - Return of the Jedi is the far better movie ... Fact - Revenge of the Sith CGI is leaps and bounds better. (And if you say that's unfair then even Phantom Menace VS ROTJ, Phantom Menace would still win CGI-wise)

    I'll give you that moment though, when he's getting chased on the Sled and he like goes past 2 Outcrops and then the Sled does like a 'Flick' at the Camera and you see his cape kind of 'Pop out' in 3D. That was probably the one (And only) moment where I did cringe at the CGI. But Trolls in ROTK VS the 3 in The Hobbit? Smaug VS Felbeasts? Wargs VS Wargs? .. I could go on, but the CGI is most certainly better in The Hobbit.
    The problem I had with the CGI was that it was too clean for creatures like Trolls and Wargs, they're supposed to be dark, gritty and dirty, they looked pretty clean in this movie.

    Anyways, that has got to be the only complain I have with this movie, that and the Gollum-Bilbo riddle game went on a tad too long, everything else in this movie kicked maximum ass.

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    just saw the hobbit for the second time.

    heres some things that bother me

    - too much cgi
    - talking trolls and goblin king ruins the mystery aspect of middle earth. (can u imagine balrog talking to gandalf? that would've ruined the entire scene)
    - azog should have just stayed in the flash back and true to the book. didnt some other dwarf actually behead him?

    i think rotten tomatoes was pretty accurate in their review. i think a 65% makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    just saw the hobbit for the second time.

    heres some things that bother me

    - too much cgi
    - talking trolls and goblin king ruins the mystery aspect of middle earth. (can u imagine balrog talking to gandalf? that would've ruined the entire scene)
    - azog should have just stayed in the flash back and true to the book. didnt some other dwarf actually behead him?

    i think rotten tomatoes was pretty accurate in their review. i think a 65% makes sense.

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    Talking trolls and Great Goblin are part of the book, though.

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    One of the change I didn't like was Mirkwood. It was supposed to be already corrupted and called Mirkwood when the wizards arrived in Middle Earth about 2000 years before the story. It is even implied in the Silmarillion that the darkening of Greenwood-the-Great was what prompted the Valar to send the Istari in the first place.

    Same with the Ringwraiths. In the movie, it is said that the Witch King died in Angmar and was buried deep in a tomb locked by a spell. The White Council is surprised to learn he lives again and recognizes the blade Gandalf brought as a Blade of Morgul. It is implied the Necromancer brought him back from death. It goes against what we know of the Rings and their effects. The bearers of the Nine never died, but were turned into the Ringwraiths. The Witch King was already a Nazgûl when he was ruling over Angmar. He was then beaten by an army of Men and Elves and fled to Mordor, where he laid siege to Minas Ithil, which became known as Minas Morgul. If, in the movie, the Witch King was buried all this time, when did he take Minas Ithil where he could forge blades of Morgul?

    The Hobbit remains a great movie that I enjoyed. I just did not like these change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Talking trolls and Great Goblin are part of the book, though.
    i understand that, but i think it should have been changed for the movie. surprised peter jackson didn't realize what an impact it would have.
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    The talking trolls were one of the my favorite scenes, I'm happy he didn't change it. Same goes for the length of riddles in the dark, I was completely immersed in the movie during that.
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    watch the fellowship of the ring again and tell me the goblin king felt completely silly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    watch the fellowship of the ring again and tell me the goblin king felt completely silly
    I preferred the more rough and evil looking Goblins than the new ones.
    I found that the movie had too much CGI, make up from a decade ago looked better than that crap.

    The only thing I like about the movie was the little lore parts he added, like the fall of Erebor, Thranduil's host coming to the aid of Dwarves then leaving and Mounted Elven Lancers. Things like that made the movie, without that stuff I would have hated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    watch the fellowship of the ring again and tell me the goblin king felt completely silly
    Fellowship of the Ring is part of LotR, which is much darker and way more dramatic and serious than the children's book known as The Hobbit. The Goblin King didn't appear as a very serious character because he isn't really. But since the book got darker the longer they went, I'm expecting the upcoming movies to follow the trend, just like LotR did.

    They used much more CGI in The Hobbit than in LotR because of the the 48 fps-thing, apparently it would look very, very fake if it wasn't CGI. Or maybe it was because of the 3D thing and not the framerate, I can't remember. I too would like less CGI and more clever use of miniatures and camera angles, but I understand why they did what they did.
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    you honestly werent let down by the movie?

    i mean i still enjoyed it. but it didn't come anywhere close to lotro. it has nothing to do with the childrens vs dark aspect. its how the film was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    you honestly werent let down by the movie?

    i mean i still enjoyed it. but it didn't come anywhere close to lotro. it has nothing to do with the childrens vs dark aspect. its how the film was made.
    Well, The Hobbit overall was a significantly inferior book to lotr, in a number of areas. It wasn't even something that he meant to take seriously, and in fact went and changed one of the key scenes in it to fit into lord of the rings after his publisher turned down the sketches for the Silmarillion.
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    I honestly weren't let down by the movie, I went to see it 5 times. 3 times during the first day I expected a rather lighthearted version of LotR and that's what I feel I received. And I loved the additional lore from the appendices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badhairday View Post
    I honestly weren't let down by the movie, I went to see it 5 times. 3 times during the first day I expected a rather lighthearted version of LotR and that's what I feel I received. And I loved the additional lore from the appendices.
    I've seen it twice so far! And if I had the funds it would be even more than that... loved every bit of it.
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