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  1. #501
    Looks pretty good. The trailer has a good adventurous feel. But i cant remember Galadrial from the book.
    And is that Radagast with the hedgehog? First i thought they had written Bombadil in due to lack of appereance in Lotr - but i can se Radagast is creditet so i guess that would be him - with his own rabbit(?)sledge? And Dol Guldur on top of Mirkwood.
    Prolly shouldnt expect it to be completely by the book, lol.

  2. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by verdamte View Post
    Looks pretty good. The trailer has a good adventurous feel. But i cant remember Galadrial from the book.
    And is that Radagast with the hedgehog? First i thought they had written Bombadil in due to lack of appereance in Lotr - but i can se Radagast is creditet so i guess that would be him - with his own rabbit(?)sledge? And Dol Guldur on top of Mirkwood.
    Prolly shouldnt expect it to be completely by the book, lol.
    We know in The Hobbit that Gandalf left the group to fight the Necromancer. We know in LotR that Gandalf did that with the White Council in which there was Saruman, Radagast, Elrond and Galadriel. Dol Guldur was the Necromancer's stronghold in southern Mirkwood. Radagast's rabbits are not in any books as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verdamte View Post
    Looks pretty good. The trailer has a good adventurous feel. But i cant remember Galadrial from the book.
    And is that Radagast with the hedgehog? First i thought they had written Bombadil in due to lack of appereance in Lotr - but i can se Radagast is creditet so i guess that would be him - with his own rabbit(?)sledge? And Dol Guldur on top of Mirkwood.
    Prolly shouldnt expect it to be completely by the book, lol.
    I would *think* it's trying to fill in the details as to what Gandalf does behind the scenes that aren't in the book, which I'm sure somewhere out there is described in detail. I don't see anything wrong with that myself, in fact I think it may make the story clearer as to the purpose of it.

  4. #504
    With the prequel trilogy format, this is almost begging for comparison with the Star Wars prequels...

    Although while The Hobbit is inherently more kid-friendly and lighthearted than LOTR, hopefully PJ succeeds where Lucas failed, in keeping just the right amount of drama and seriousness to not have it feel completely alien from the original movies. Adding behind-the-scenes ties and connections with the LOTR plot, via Gandalf, could make that work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzak View Post
    With the prequel trilogy format, this is almost begging for comparison with the Star Wars prequels...

    Although while The Hobbit is inherently more kid-friendly and lighthearted than LOTR, hopefully PJ succeeds where Lucas failed, in keeping just the right amount of drama and seriousness to not have it feel completely alien from the original movies. Adding behind-the-scenes ties and connections with the LOTR plot, via Gandalf, could make that work.
    Very true, but what I think will help make the Hobbit Trilogy worlds better than the star wars prequals is they're based on good material the Hobbit is a fantastic book and as long as PJ doesn't mess with it too much (and after how he handles LoTR we have no reason to assume he will) then it's a guarenteed winner.

    Compare this to the Star Wars prequels which GL seemingly made up as he was going along, with only the barest thought to thinks like story, or character development and instead decided to just drown the whole thing in CGI
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  6. #506
    While I wait for this movie released like the rising sun, I'm rather miffed with the whole "make it a trilogy" cash cow.

    While I know they add some extra stuff around it to fleshen out the story beyond what Hobbit told, still the book + all the extra writing around that timeframe is only roughly the length of Fellowship of a Ring (give or take 10-20 pages) and should be easily fitted to two movies considering they got all 3 LotR books to fit in 3 movies and they were much larger in scale.
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    The only reason LoTR is so long is because of the way tolkien(sp)described stuff in it I remember him describing bag end at the start of fellowship of the ring its about a 3 page long description were as in the hobbit he describes bag end in half a page. If he went into the same kind of detail i doubt it would of been a big success seeing as he was aiming it at kids but then again i think it has a better storyline or well it holds you in better than LoTR took me 3 attempts to full read that read the hobbit ina day first time round couldn't put it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    While I wait for this movie released like the rising sun, I'm rather miffed with the whole "make it a trilogy" cash cow.

    While I know they add some extra stuff around it to fleshen out the story beyond what Hobbit told, still the book + all the extra writing around that timeframe is only roughly the length of Fellowship of a Ring (give or take 10-20 pages) and should be easily fitted to two movies considering they got all 3 LotR books to fit in 3 movies and they were much larger in scale.
    There's a shortage of good fantasy movies with production value on the level of the LOTR movies. As long as the quality stays at that level I personally have no problem with them milking it, there's plenty of lore that Tolkien wrote, and as long as they stick to the source material I would watch a Silmarillion movie or something based on Hurin or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xylophone View Post
    There's a shortage of good fantasy movies with production value on the level of the LOTR movies. As long as the quality stays at that level I personally have no problem with them milking it, there's plenty of lore that Tolkien wrote, and as long as they stick to the source material I would watch a Silmarillion movie or something based on Hurin or whatever.
    I'd vote for Beren and Luthien first. There is action, two good vilains (Sauron and Morgoth) and romance comparable to Tristan and Iseult. And a talking dog. What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    I'd vote for Beren and Luthien first. There is action, two good vilains (Sauron and Morgoth) and romance comparable to Tristan and Iseult. And a talking dog. What's not to like?
    Isn't there a reference to it in Fellowship as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
    ^^^ Wells using an analogy

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    Quote Originally Posted by xylophone View Post
    Isn't there a reference to it in Fellowship as well?
    I believe Aragorn mentions the tale to the hobbits when they are camping at Amon Sul. I believe he tells an abridged version though. I can't quite remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    I believe Aragorn mentions the tale to the hobbits when they are camping at Amon Sul. I believe he tells an abridged version though. I can't quite remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    I believe Aragorn mentions the tale to the hobbits when they are camping at Amon Sul. I believe he tells an abridged version though. I can't quite remember.
    IIRC, he was singing a song that told the story and Frodo asked him who the lady he was singing about was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
    ^^^ Wells using an analogy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    I'd vote for Beren and Luthien first. There is action, two good vilains (Sauron and Morgoth) and romance comparable to Tristan and Iseult. And a talking dog. What's not to like?
    That would be great, but I think the movie going audience needs to learn more about the Silmarils, and that is alone 2 movies worth before you get to Beren.

    A great starting point IMO would be the fall of Numenor. It directly ties into LOTR, so the audience would be somewhat familiar, it's almost like a direct prequel, ending with the battle of Dagorlad
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  15. #515
    We shall see how the movie turns out to be. So far it looks positive and looking forward to it.

  16. #516
    Am I the only wait that don't like much the flashback story? :S

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    If you play a Dwarf in WOW..You will probably feel at home with the Hobbit


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    Tolkien single handledly created fantasy dwarf type, even tvtropes makes fun of it
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  19. #519
    Dwarves with short beards still looks kind of off.

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    Thorin is so badass. That epic 'pose' on that tree of some sort was more than just epic.
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