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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Darts View Post
    The Only Boss that really deserve a 10/10 could be Sinestra... Otherwise no moar than 7.5
    Really? I do mostly 10-man and I was told that AC/Al'Akir are more difficult than Sinestra. Am I wrong? For those who killed her in 10 man: How is she compared to let's say Cho'Gall/Al'Akir/Nef?
    Last edited by mmoc4a1158ae20; 2011-06-04 at 04:24 PM.

  2. #22
    Halfus 3/10
    V&T 5/10
    AC 9/10
    Chogall 7/10
    Sinestra 7/10

    Magmaw 3/10
    ODS 4/10
    Chimaeron 2/10
    Atramedes 2/10
    Maloriak 4/10
    Nef 6/10

    Conclave 4/10
    Alakir 8/10

    done only 25man, cant rly say about 10man, but ive heard alakir is ridiculously hard in 10s

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by klaps_05 View Post
    Halfus 3/10
    V&T 5/10
    AC 9/10
    Chogall 7/10
    Sinestra 7/10

    Magmaw 3/10
    ODS 4/10
    Chimaeron 2/10
    Atramedes 2/10
    Maloriak 4/10
    Nef 6/10

    Conclave 4/10
    Alakir 8/10

    done only 25man, cant rly say about 10man, but ive heard alakir is ridiculously hard in 10s
    Unlikely, we downed Al'akir in 3 hours on a offday (25 man guild) with a relatively bad setup. It's very very easy now

  4. #24
    Halfus - 1/10
    VNT - 4/10
    AC - 7/10
    Chogall - 7.5/10

    Magmaw - 4/10
    Omno - 5/10
    Chimearon - 1/10
    Atramedes - 3/10
    Maloriak - 3.5/10
    Nefarian - 5/10

    Conclave - 3/10
    Alakir - 7/10

    Sinestra - 7.5/10
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinn View Post
    Really? I do mostly 10-man and I was told that AC/Al'Akir are more difficult than Sinestra. Am I wrong? For those who killed her in 10 man: How is she compared to let's say Cho'Gall/Al'Akir/Nef?
    From a healer's perspective, this: Sinestra >> AC >> Al'Akir > Nefarian > Cho'gall

    Sinestra is a very stressful fight for a healer, seeing as there are only 2 of us, not only healing but also doing the dispels. AC is easy once you pick static positions for phase 3, whence Al'Akir only requires enough repetition in phase 1 for people to understand the mechanics properly. Once that's done, it becomes a relatively easy fight. Cho and Nef don't really deserve a mention, as on both fights you know exactly when the damage bursts are about to hit, making healing very easy.
    Last edited by mmoced9c7f72b6; 2011-06-04 at 05:10 PM.

  6. #26
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    The main probems with Ascendant Council is getting the Gravity Cores, Swirling winds and Flame Strikes in the worst places at the worst times.

    Like having both of them on top of each other so as soon as you get one buff you get forced into the other and the horrible placement of Flamestrikes with Swirling Winds/Gravity Cores right next to them with a Frost Orb chasing you.

    Or when a Frost Orb starts chasing you and the Flame Strike spawns behind it so you have to run all the way around the room just to reach it.

    Or having 2 Frost Orbs on you in a row then the Swirling Winds despawns just as you get near it meaning you never had the chance to get the right buff and you die to Earthquake..

  7. #27
    Halfus - 1/10
    V&T - 5/10
    TAC - 10/10
    Cho'gall - 6/10

    Magmaw - 3/10
    ODS - 3/10
    Chim - 1/10
    Atra - 1.5/10
    Mal - 3/10
    Nef - 7/10

    Conclave - 6/10
    AA - 9/10

    Sinestra - 10/10
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  8. #28
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    25 Man Heroic:

    Halfus - 1/10
    V&T - 4.5/10
    Ascendant Council - 7/10
    Cho'gall - 6/10
    Sinestra - 7/10

    Magmaw - 3/10
    Ommotron Defense System - 5/10
    Chimaeron - 3/10
    Atramedes - 1/10
    Maloriak - 2/10
    Nefarian - 6/10

    Conclave of the Four Winds - 5/10
    Al'akir - 8/10
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  9. #29
    What we need to do is gather all the opinions of 13/13 raiders we can find, have them rate the hardmodes, separate them into 25 and 10, do some sort of compiling and post the average difficulties in a sticky, then make these threads a bannable offense.

    imo

  10. #30
    25 man hc 7/13. Lock perspective.

    Halfus 1/10
    V&T 5/10
    Monst N/A
    Cho'gal N/a
    Sinestra N/a

    Magmaw 3/10
    Omno 7/10 (Just so damned random it's not even fun)
    Chim 3/10
    Atramedes 3/10
    Maloriak 2.5/10
    Neffy N/a

    Conclave 4.5/10
    al'akir N/a

  11. #31
    25 man:

    Halfus - 1/10
    VNT - 3/10
    AC - 10/10
    Chogall - 8/10
    Magmaw - 2/10
    Ommo - 5/10
    Chimearon - 1/10
    Atramedes - 1/10
    Maloriak - 2/10
    Nefarian - 7/10
    Conclave - 6/10
    Alakir - 10/10
    Sinestra - 9/10

    10 man:

    Halfus - 2/10
    VNT - 5/10
    AC - 9/10
    Chogall - 6/10
    Magmaw - 3/10
    Ommo - 7/10
    Chimearon - 3/10
    Atramedes - 1/10
    Maloriak - 2/10
    Nefarian - 8/10
    Conclave - 7/10
    Alakir - 10/10
    Sinestra - 10/10
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  12. #32
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    25 man HC- Holy Paladin pov

    Halfus 2/10
    V&T 5/10
    Council 9/10 (Not dead yet)
    Cho'gal 8/10
    Sinestra 3/10 (Some people say its hard but for some reason the only boss my guild killed faster than sinestra is halfus)

    Magmaw 4/10
    Omno 6/10
    Chim 2/10
    Atramedes 1/10
    Maloriak 5/10
    Nef 7/10

    Conclave 4/10
    Al'akir 10/10 (Only killed this on 10 man, phase 1 is such a bitch)
    Last edited by mmocaa84e3d5fa; 2011-06-05 at 01:24 AM.

  13. #33
    honestly i was thinking

    why is that halfus is such a joke compared to all the other bosses?

    i mean, look at magmaw in N comparing it to HC
    the difference is significant, yet both halfus and magmaw is a joke in normal

    but when u bring it to HC and compare, halfus is still a joke
    if you cant down halfus in 1 shot, your guild isnt ready to try other HC bosses, this is really a raid awareness check boss (along with a simple gear check for tank. heals. dps)

    ---------- Post added 2011-06-05 at 12:37 PM ----------

    Tot4W has almost no easily farmable HC boss
    BoT only has halfus as a joke
    BWD has the most jokers (Magmaw, chimearon, atramedes, maloriak)


  14. #34
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    25man experience 8/13

    Halfus 2/10
    V&T 6/10

    Magmaw 3/10
    ODS 6/10
    Maloriak 4/10
    Atramedes 3/10
    Chimaeron 2/10

    Conclave 5/10

    10 9/13

    Magmaw 2/10
    ODS 4/10
    Maloriak 3/10
    Atramedes 3/10
    Chimaeran 2/10

    Halfus 2/10
    V&T 6/10

    Conclave 5/10
    Al'Akir p1 7/10 p2+3 3/10

  15. #35
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    You guys all agree that heroic Maloriak, Atramedes and Chimareon are as easy as Halfus?

  16. #36
    My guild one shots everything except Omnotron and Al'akir.

    I think the people saying Sinestra is a 10 are -

    A: People who haven't actually done it
    B: 10 man guilds
    C: Exaggerating

    I really think AC/Al'akir are much more difficult fights than Sinestra is. (I'd almost call Nef/Cho'gall harder as well)

  17. #37
    From a purely 10-man perspective

    Halfus - 3/10
    V&T - 5/10
    Ascendant Council - 10/10
    Cho'gall - 7/10

    Magmaw - 5/10
    Ommotron Defense System - 6/10
    Chimaeron - 3/10
    Atramedes - 1/10
    Maloriak - 4/10
    Nefarian - 9/10

    Conclave of the Four Winds - 7/10
    Al'akir - 10/10

    Sinestra (Sintharia) - 10/10
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  18. #38
    From arcane mage perspective
    Halfus - 1/10
    VNT - 3/10 (ye, i gotta grp up and blink from meteors/move from flames)
    AC - (not tried, but must be the hardest one I guess since u can't ignore mechanics)
    Chogall - 5/10 (<3 interrupting, not)

    Magmaw - 2/10 (yes, i'm in mele range like pro)
    Ommo - 5/10 (hard to not break the shield with 400k arcane blasts)
    Chimearon - 1/10
    Atramedes - 3/10 (if only I could drop tracking)
    Maloriak - 3/10
    Nefarian - 2/10 (overaggro?)

    Conclave - 3/10 (Might be subjective coz on latest kills i've been on life->frost->life->frost - exclusively for ring of frost)
    Alakir - 10/10 (Not tried but they say p1 is tricky)

    Sinestra - 3/10 (Cutters? And yes, finger will hurt when fight ends)

    remember, its only arcane mage perspective.

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko031 View Post
    You guys all agree that heroic Maloriak, Atramedes and Chimareon are as easy as Halfus?
    Maloriak and Atramedes have been nerfed so much that they are as easy as Halfus or even easier. Can't say why people are rating 10 man Al'Akir as 10/10 as it is somewhat a kill once you make it to phase 2, and phase 1 isn't even hard at lasts 1min-2min.

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    Halfus - 3
    Valiona & Theralion - 6
    Ascendant Council - 10
    Cho'gall - 9
    Sinestra - 10

    Omnitron Defense System - 6
    Magmaw - 4
    Chimareon - 5
    Atramedes- 2
    Maloriak - 4
    Nefarian - 8

    Conclave of Wind - 5
    Al'akir - 9

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