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    Quote Originally Posted by Neeshka View Post
    It's an action rpg where every quest involves - kill everything in crypt/dwemer ruin/cave; collect item at the end; return for a 100g reward (lulz).
    The main quests encourages you to become a more powerful dragonborn and get ready to fight big dragons.
    The large side quest chains make you do exactly the same.

    "Creative" ways of playing like going for a naked drunken elven brawler putting points into speech and illusion magic doesn't seem that intuitive to me at least.
    There's nothing forcing you to do any of those quests though. Nothing. Nothing at all. On my mage I got to the whiterun stables then immediately bought a ride to the winterhold college. No dragon shouts or souls yet at all. On my next character, I'll go pure thief and only do thieves guild quests and focus on thieflike skills. This game doesn't force you to do anything. At all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbatim View Post
    Random question, but this is the thread to do it in after all:

    I've been playing Skyrim since release, but have only now come around to getting my poor Nord infected with vampirism. Thing is though, from screenshots, I can tell that vampires get black eyes and slightly emaciated faces. I recieved the latter, but her eyes are still normal.. which arguably removes one of the relatively few cool visuals, attached to the condition.

    Is this a known bug, or am I going wrong somewhere?
    Does it say under magic effects that you have Prophyric Hemophilia (or Vampires Disease) and have you gone to sleep at all? If you haven't gone to sleep you should be able to cure it at an altar or with potions/ spells
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    lost all of my save files on ps3 for some reason. dont even want to start over again. feelsbadman.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blznsmri View Post
    Does it say under magic effects that you have Prophyric Hemophilia (or Vampires Disease) and have you gone to sleep at all? If you haven't gone to sleep you should be able to cure it at an altar or with potions/ spells
    Prophyric Hemophilia was in Oblivion: what you want to be looking for is Sanguinare Vampiris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    Prophyric Hemophilia was in Oblivion: what you want to be looking for is Sanguinare Vampiris.
    Ah, I've only contracted it once very early in my first playthough and cured it right away, was unsure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcrow View Post
    lost all of my save files on ps3 for some reason. dont even want to start over again. feelsbadman.jpg
    Unless your files got corrupted, I've never heard of PS3 files vanishing. Maybe you are on the wrong account? I would worry about the hard drive going bad and running your PS3 in safe mode to see if any thing else is corrupt. Also, might want to investe in PS+. Automatic online file storage. Online storage saves almost too well. If you don't keep up with it you have things in there you though you got rid of a long time ago.

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    Decide to check out a dragon symbol on my map last night that wasn't "Cleared"...

    Turns out there was a named dragon priest and an Ancient Dragon there. As soon as the screen loads, ice to the face and fire to the ass. Luckily I had an invincible companion. I had to kite the priest while watching for dragon strafing attacks which would pretty much kill me if I sat in them. My companion grabs aggro on the dragon and kites him down the mountain as I go dual wielding and execute the dragon priest.

    As soon as I kill the priest my companion goes down and the dragon dives towards with a blue streak coming out of its mouth. I find a 2 ft wide pillar to hide behind, this is the only thing keeping the dragon from making me a Popsicle. I pull out my bow and pop shots at the dragon from behind the pillar. He adapts and lands, now he is slowing walking towards me. I thinking its all over because Im corned between the dragon, a pillar, and the mountain to my backside. Then I see a fireball shoot up from below.

    My companions is back from her "nap" and ready to go toe to toe with dragon. She screams taunts at the dragon and the dragon immediately takes flight to chase her. The dragon lands right in front of her and I think she is done for, again. I run to the edge of the small rise I am on and see the most epic scene. My companion has equipped her dragon shield and glass sword in full glass armor looking right in the face of the dragon. The dragon bites at her and she is blocking every attempt by it to rip her head off. I take the opportunity to take out my bow and finish off the dragon. The dragon is conflicted, shoot breathes at me the one doing damage or let my companion keep slapping him in the face. Every time he would turn his head to breathe at me, my companion would slap him in the face and yell more taunts at him. The dragon was about 5 normal bow hits from death when he backs up and attempts for flee. I ready my bow and my companion rushed him with an overhand power strike. **Crit sound**, right as the dragon attempts to take flight I nail him right in the back of the head and he goes down. At the same time my companion executed her power attack. We split the loot and venture into the frozen tundra for more adventures. Random encounters are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Decide to check out a dragon symbol on my map last night that wasn't "Cleared"...

    Turns out there was a named dragon priest and an Ancient Dragon there. As soon as the screen loads, ice to the face and fire to the ass. Luckily I had an invincible companion. I had to kite the priest while watching for dragon strafing attacks which would pretty much kill me if I sat in them. My companion grabs aggro on the dragon and kites him down the mountain as I go dual wielding and execute the dragon priest.
    You're talking about Krosis aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blznsmri View Post
    You're talking about Krosis aren't you?
    Yup.

    Probably didn't help that I waiting to go their until my game was spawning Ancient Dragons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Yup.

    Probably didn't help that I waiting to go their until my game was spawning Ancient Dragons.
    Yeah, I accidentally ran into him as well... Luckily it was just a blood dragon and Krosis, though I made damn sure not to aggro Krosis until after I killed the dragon the second time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    i would consider that you basically have to powerlevel blacksmithing with iron daggers and leather bracers a design issue. I would also consider that you are pretty much forced into powerleveling enchanting by only using petty soul gems as a design issue as well. I would further consider the ability to then sell those enchanted daggers to make easy gold as another design issue. these issues are further compounded by the fact that the best gear is easily crafted and enchanted by you. I never left the area around whiterun, never visited another hold and yet somehow i was running around in the best gear.

    Clearly I'm at fault here when i notice during my first playthrough that all crafted gear was available to me if i choose to craft iron daggers and leather bracers for efficent skill points in blacksmithing. Again i must have been the one at fault to notice how easy it was to get petty soul gems (or really any soul gem other than grand, because enchanting gear you wear with anything other than a grand soul is stupid), then fill them and use them to make enchanted daggers to make gold with. The piss poor design is not at fault nor the people who made the system but didn't bother to put any thought into it.

    i don't think anyone disputes that you can get enjoyment out of playing the game, i certainly have. however, i don't think the game is worth all the accolades that everyone seems to be so willing to throw upon it. before you go off calling it the perfect game, try brawling someone or picking a lock.
    I've picked countless locks.. what's wrong with them? Ever played fallout or oblivion? You decided to grind professions and it's your fault lol. I chose NOT to do the things you did, and am enjoying the game at a steady pace. I'm not underpowered nor overpowered. I upgrade my armor with BS and didn't bother with enchanting however I may take it up at some point. If you actually played the game instead of grinding professions in whiterun maybe you would have had a better experience.

    It's not piss poor design, it's just options. Elder Scrolls always has that sense of freedom, even more so in skyrim.. yet it's obvious to me now that people can't handle it, abuse it, and blame the developers. How silly. This WoW community mentality is driving me insane. "I don't like this, WAHHHHHHHHHHH" then don't do it "BUT, BUT... WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

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    It's not piss poor design, it's just options. Elder Scrolls always has that sense of freedom, even more so in skyrim.. yet it's obvious to me now that people can't handle it, abuse it, and blame the developers. How silly. This WoW community mentality is driving me insane. "I don't like this, WAHHHHHHHHHHH" then don't do it "BUT, BUT... WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
    Yes it is piss poor design, this isnt minecraft where you need to create challenge for yourself, a lot of things in the game are done with balance in mind, and some of those things worked out, the things that other poster posted didnt work out. How he couldve known whats gonna be overpowered and what isnt? He was just trying to play effectively and just went the obvious path, he couldnt have known what would be the result. I know its a bad comparison, and it is singleplayer game, but you wouldnt really get any noticable advantage by having max crafting skill in wow, and as wow players its not a surprise we would have similar mindset in another rpg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neeshka View Post
    Anyway what do you consider a "normal" set of skills to level if you dislike the broken and underpowered magic system ? Please let us know.
    Personally, I'm currently going with one-hand/heavy armor/block/archery. Doing just fine so far.

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  12. #4072
    Quote Originally Posted by Neeshka View Post
    it's a sandbox rpg. on top of that the magic system is so horribly broken there is little point even going that route. Being able to do "whatever you want" is a heavily marketed feature but I really don't get this concept at all. You do the main quests; a number of non-radiant quest chains, and clear out most of the interesting dungeons and that's it.
    And this is where you're wrong... You choose to do "the main quests; a number of non-radiant quest chains, and clear out most of the interesting dungeons and that's it."... There's so much more that you can elect to do, the game is what you make it, especially when you've got console commands at your disposal (for example, the large scale battles or rolling 2500 cheese wheels down a mountain).

    It is pretty obvious that a game like Skyrim is not your cup of tea, if you need a game to lay out your entertainment for you and tell you what to do, a sandbox RPG like Skyrim is likely not the way to go, I've seen too many people try to compare a game like Skyrim to a game like WoW... Please don't come here and pass off your opinion like it's fact. =/ You don't like the game, but a lot of people do...

    That being said, it does feel less balanced than Oblivion... It took me a day of playing Skyrim to do what it took me a week or more in Oblivion (i.e. getting the best possible armor with the best possible enchants), and even after I got it in Oblivion, I wasn't steamrolling stuff like I am in Skyrim. Even then, I'm still enjoying Skyrim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    Sorry but I think its impossible to rescue the greymane without killing them. There is just no way. Unless you got master stealth skills such as putting invis postions on you and keeping spells up at al times.
    Incorrect, you can complete "Missing in Action" without fighting all the Thrallmor in that dungeon. If you're dressed like an Imperial officer (or Thrallmor, I don't recall) you can request his release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beingmused View Post
    Thrallmor
    thats funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenkex View Post
    I know its a bad comparison, and it is singleplayer game, but you wouldnt really get any noticable advantage by having max crafting skill in wow, and as wow players its not a surprise we would have similar mindset in another rpg.
    I've played rpgs for a long time. I've actually played a few games longer than WoW. I don't start a new game expecting it to fall in line with some old one from a different company and a different genre without good reason. There is no good reason for that here. If you're doing that, you have only yourself to blame for your disappointment. Personally, by default I expect countless hours dedicated to crafting to yield me results comparable to whatever the best ____ in the game is. I expect this in most games because I'm doing it instead of playing the game itself.

    Discussion of what skills are obvious as if they are the same to everyone here is ridiculous. There are racial bonuses, loot, and enchantment options dedicated to unarmed combat. The unitiated are going to catch wind of that and consider making a brawler. The well versed looking for something different might do the same. People in the middle likely won't.

    It is easy to play the game with no concept of a main quest. First week I played I didn't touch what I thought was the main storyline. Sometimes I lost track of which it was. Its the central story in only the most arbitrary sense. You don't exactly get credits for beating that boss, do you. Skyrim is far from a perfect game, but they did do the sandbox thing well. I've gone through with several characters now. For some, the central story is more a nuisance and with a few I ignore it completely.

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    Has anyone attempted to level up all their skills to 100? And I mean all of them. I am seriously considering making this a goal in game
    I'm still thinking about it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by beingmused View Post
    Incorrect, you can complete "Missing in Action" without fighting all the Thrallmor in that dungeon. If you're dressed like an Imperial officer (or Thrallmor, I don't recall) you can request his release.
    Huh I'll have to try that next I do that quest! Thanks.

  18. #4078
    Quote Originally Posted by Erza View Post
    It's not piss poor design, it's just options. Elder Scrolls always has that sense of freedom, even more so in skyrim.. yet it's obvious to me now that people can't handle it, abuse it, and blame the developers. How silly. This WoW community mentality is driving me insane. "I don't like this, WAHHHHHHHHHHH" then don't do it "BUT, BUT... WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
    i don't get this, i'm arguing that the game should have been better, and you're arguing that i'm the problem with the game.

  19. #4079
    Quote Originally Posted by Neeshka View Post
    To be fair Skyrim is a superb hiking simulator; and exploring the continent and the occasional (but extremely rare) "pretty" dungeon is nice.
    Dude, we get it, you are disappointed by the game. Now kindly piss off and stop trying to bait people who actually enjoy the game into a flamewar every other page.

    Too many people just don't appreciate a single player sandbox RPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuqui-tuqui View Post
    Has anyone attempted to level up all their skills to 100? And I mean all of them. I am seriously considering making this a goal in game
    My conditions for "completing" this game are as follows:
    - Clearing every dungeon
    - Doing every available non-radiant quest (some are missible if you don't save the right person or kill the wrong person, hopefully I haven't screwed up any of those)
    - All skills to 100
    - A full collection of all books available in game (hopefully arrayed alphabetically in bookshelves).

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