1. #6121
    Quote Originally Posted by jeremynative View Post
    has anyone found out how to make skyrim get past the actual bethesda logo screen with a lot of addons? i have dozens of addons and it seems like nothing ever works to prevent CTD
    your load order is fucked up then. when it does that, it's conflicting. i have 81 addons right now and any CTD means something is wrong.
    i'm not going to explain how to deal with it because people have been writing how-tos for this since oblivion came out. use BOSS (better oblivion sorting software, yes, it's for skyrim) to automatically sort your shit and it will also tell you if you got conflicting addons, will tell you to remove this, delete that esp, etc

    if that isn't the problem, you have something left over from another mod that shouldn't be there, clean out your DATA folder

    if that isn't it, you are missing something a mod needs, may just need to be checked/ticked in the mod manager

    i'd use nexus mod manager, i'd only download shit from skyrim nexus (steam is fine, but a LOT of steam addons are fakes and copies, aren't supported because of that, or modified by people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground)

    with the right tools (boss, nmm, proper install/uninstall procedurs) you won't have problems

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-01 at 02:43 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by jeremynative View Post
    i used boss to check the load order and for errors and it says its all fine but it really isnt -,-
    you use ASIS?
    post the link to the boss page that you get when you sort them
    Last edited by fizzbob; 2012-12-01 at 08:46 AM.

  2. #6122
    Quote Originally Posted by fizzbob View Post
    your load order is fucked up then. when it does that, it's conflicting. i have 81 addons right now and any CTD means something is wrong.
    i'm not going to explain how to deal with it because people have been writing how-tos for this since oblivion came out. use BOSS (better oblivion sorting software, yes, it's for skyrim) to automatically sort your shit and it will also tell you if you got conflicting addons, will tell you to remove this, delete that esp, etc

    if that isn't the problem, you have something left over from another mod that shouldn't be there, clean out your DATA folder

    if that isn't it, you are missing something a mod needs, may just need to be checked/ticked in the mod manager

    i'd use nexus mod manager, i'd only download shit from skyrim nexus (steam is fine, but a LOT of steam addons are fakes and copies, aren't supported because of that, or modified by people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground)

    with the right tools (boss, nmm, proper install/uninstall procedurs) you won't have problems

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-01 at 02:43 AM ----------



    you use ASIS?
    i dont know what asis is. I have a lot of addons from steam though mixed with nexus mods, maybe i will just uninstall all the steam mods and uninstall the game and try again with just nexus mods. Im sad -- i had so many mods for followers and game enhancements now i have to find them all =P
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  3. #6123
    Quote Originally Posted by jeremynative View Post
    i dont know what asis is. I have a lot of addons from steam though mixed with nexus mods, maybe i will just uninstall all the steam mods and uninstall the game and try again with just nexus mods. Im sad -- i had so many mods for followers and game enhancements now i have to find them all =P
    don't do that, just post your boss link (it's a webpage that it shows you all the shit on)

  4. #6124
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    it seems like the biggest error is the UFO Ultimate follower overhaul plugin but i tried disabling and it still happens
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  5. #6125
    Quote Originally Posted by fizzbob View Post
    setstage CWFortSiegeFort 10
    (starts the fort greenwall quests, this is what legate rikke is supposed to give you)
    First thing I tried. nothing happens.

  6. #6126
    This is just your punishment for playing Imperials.

  7. #6127
    Quote Originally Posted by jeremynative View Post
    it seems like the biggest error is the UFO Ultimate follower overhaul plugin but i tried disabling and it still happens
    you can't just disable UFO and it's working fine, updated yesterday and i've been using it the whole time. you need the dawnguard patch with it too

    make sure skyrim is using the 1.8 patch (newest one), updates via steam automatically when steam is online

    here is what i'd do, i'd start a 100% fresh clean game. i'm 99.9% sure you have a dirty save that's causing issues that you may not even be noticing, but you got a lot of old outdated mods, mods that change the same shit, etc. if you can possibly do without a current save, i'd just start fresh and save myself a headache

    just delete all your mods and never use the workshop again. it will just be easier and more convenient to go to the skyrim nexus for all your mods and if it isn't there, 10 replacements are. it's just managed better, regulated better and more active and the mod manager makes most installs fool proof

    delete everything from your skyrim game folder (where data, tesv.exe, etc is) except the DATA folder, ARCHIVE.EXE, CREATIONKIT.EXE (if you have it, if not, don't worry about it), if you are using ENB keep the d3d9.dll and any of the ENBbloom, effects, etc files, skyrimlauncher. exe and tesv.exe. delete the rest of it, it's important you'll get it back in a minute automatically.

    go into that data folder folder you kept and delete everything except the skyrim - whatever .bsa (sounds, shaders, textures, etc) and the update.esm/bsa and dawnguard.esm/bsa. delete the other shit, you just want the official skyrim/update/dawnguard bsa and esm

    now, your folder should be clean as fuck. all those other folders inside data and inside skyrim EXCEPT FOR DATA should be gone.

    open steam, go to all games, right click skyrim, properties, local files, verify integrity of game cache and it will check what files you need that are missing, automatically download and install them and you're back to square one.

    then, go to the skyrim nexus, get the mod manager (nexus mod manager or NMM, free, download and install) and find what you want to install

    read the page and the comments. if people say it's dead, don't fuck with it. if it hasn't been updated since august, it's probably dead unless it's an armor file or something, they require fewer updates. just make sure what you're getting is worth getting

    read the descriptions, read what it is and isn't compatible with (if they have it)

    i WOULD NOT use alternate start, it causes a default script to forever look for the trigger that you skip when you use this mod and it does cause issues in the background. i only got papyrus lag spikes from hell (a stutter here and there) and while that's normal, this was a bad one and it would CTD occasionally as well. just start the old fashioned way and save yourself the trouble. i recently quit using it too.

    use the "top files" and also sort through mods by category and sort each category by ENDORSEMENTS to find the good shit. when shit is down around 100 or fewer endorsements, it's something VERY specific that you can do without unless you're looking for it in the first place, or it's just not a popular mod (usually don't find much at that point worth having unless it's a day old)

    make sure each mod you download isn't fucking with another mod you have/want and that it has everything it needs to work

    you'll probably need SKSE (google and download from their page and install instructions are in the readme), MIGHT need scriptdragon (i don't) and you should start off fresh in teh right direction.

    it shouldn't take but 10 mins to download all the files you deleted, most of them were text files and aren't that big. you kept the big shit

    now, when you get a mod that uses a script, that script doesn't disappear and stop running usually unless you stop the quest associated with it (quest as in how it talks to the game, how you put it into the game when you make the mod, not a normal quest IN the game, if it's relevant the mod will tell you how to stop it)

    here is my mod list, it's a lot of shit and it all plays well together and it's a great start at the very least.

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    skyre is great and the armor mod that is set up to work specifically with it has a ton of shit

  8. #6128
    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbane View Post
    This is just your punishment for playing Imperials.
    I played for the stormcloaks on my first character, and ever since them I've found myself unable to fight for Jarl Adolfric Stormhitler again.

  9. #6129
    Quote Originally Posted by Valenhil View Post
    I played for the stormcloaks on my first character, and ever since them I've found myself unable to fight for Jarl Adolfric Stormhitler again.
    Ulfric is awesome. You're mucking about. And the Empire's racist and fascist too. The Stormcloaks aren't the latter, though. They're just a nationalistic monarchy. The Empire wants to replace every other culture with their own.
    Last edited by Frostbane; 2012-12-01 at 12:24 PM.

  10. #6130
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    Are we going to start a political debate?

    I'm with Imperials. I love Thalmor and I cannot bare Nord accents so it was a no brainer for me

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  11. #6131
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Are we going to start a political debate?

    I'm with Imperials. I love Thalmor and I cannot bare Nord accents so it was a no brainer for me
    Anyone who claims Ulfric as Adolf Hitler should really look closely and compare the two. You don't like Ulfric? Fine. But don't make incorrect comparisons. And it's 'bear'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbane View Post
    Anyone who claims Ulfric as Adolf Hitler should really look closely and compare the two. You don't like Ulfric? Fine. But don't make incorrect comparisons.
    ... I didn't compare them
    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbane View Post
    And it's 'bear'.
    derp typo :<

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  13. #6133
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    ... I didn't compare them

    derp typo :<
    I was referring to the first guy I was talking to.

  14. #6134
    Maybe someone here can help me. The quest Escaped Criminal is bugged for me. Namely I got no quest marker. Finding and killing the criminal without a marker didn't progress the quest (and was quite frustrating). Neither does using setstage to finish the quest. Or using the method suggested in the ES wiki i.e.

    "This can be bypassed through console commands, by accepting and completing one of the other companion radiant quests. The following commands will assign Animal Extermination as a new quest and complete it. Afterwards, you can accept new radiant quests from the companion leaders.

    setstage cr01 10
    setstage cr01 20
    setstage cr01 100

    In case this doesn´t work, using cr02 instead of cr01 worked. In addition it may happen that you can only get a quest from Aela after using this bypass. Completing the Quest from Aela (in my case: Totems of Hircine) seemed to reset the other quests, so I can now again take quests from the other leaders, including Vilkas."

    None of these fixes do anything for me. Which is pretty bad because my last save before accepting the quest is ~30 hours old.

  15. #6135
    On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage CR07 stage, where stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages, but it is possible to clear all stages of the quest using resetquest CR07.

    From the much superior Uesp.net wiki. I don't understand a word of it, but maybe it helps.

  16. #6136
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Are we going to start a political debate?

    I'm with Imperials. I love Thalmor and I cannot bare Nord accents so it was a no brainer for me
    I went Imperials to for the first playthrough but I have absolutely no love for the Thalmor and can't wait for the day they get their asses handed to them. The white gold concordat will not last.

  17. #6137
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    I went Imperials to for the first playthrough but I have absolutely no love for the Thalmor and can't wait for the day they get their asses handed to them. The white gold concordat will not last.
    You'd be surprised how long these things can last when most of the nobility conspire to murder their leader.

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    I like the Imperial's uniforms a lot more than Stormcloaks too. I hope the Empire wins

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  19. #6139
    What is the console command for flushing out the memory used.

    Now that I've progressed further into the game and done tons of shit the game just seems to fill up my RAM really fast after few location switches.
    Modern gaming apologist: I once tasted diarrhea so shit is fine.

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  20. #6140
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    I like the Imperial's uniforms a lot more than Stormcloaks too. I hope the Empire wins
    Seriously? They're wearing skirts.

    The way this'll go though, is that it'll probably depend on your save or they'll do a dragon break (again).

    Imperials need to get out of Skyrim, I've always wanted that place independent from Morrowind onwards.

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