1. #6241
    it's not a medicinal cure, even though normal vampires are just diseased. you have to use a filled black soul gem, and by the things he says in the chant, i'd say it's one of the daedra cures it. but i still think vampire lords should be harder to cure, something like molag bal stopping the cure all together, and you having to seek stronger methods. like direct contact with meridia or possibly azura.

  2. #6242
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcstunner View Post
    it's not a medicinal cure, even though normal vampires are just diseased. you have to use a filled black soul gem, and by the things he says in the chant, i'd say it's one of the daedra cures it. but i still think vampire lords should be harder to cure, something like molag bal stopping the cure all together, and you having to seek stronger methods. like direct contact with meridia or possibly azura.
    It's still stupid. Curing vampire of vampirism is like curing human from being a human.
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  3. #6243
    well, you're working with gods. i'd say a god could cure anything it wants to of whatever it wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    It's still stupid. Curing vampire of vampirism is like curing human from being a human.
    You know what is way more stupid than curing vampirism? That the only character that can turn you in a werewolf after finishing the companions quest-line is not marked as essential after that.

    Seriously on the character I play the most I had Aela as my follower and there was this ork NPC at level 25 that hit like a truck and somehow he killed her. I noticed that when it was too late to load that save so I ended up with a dead Aela.

    Later I cured lycanthropy with that hagraven heads. So then Dawnguard is released and you can suddenly turn into a werewolf again after being cured. However the only character that can infect you again is AELA !!!

    Vampire lord is cooler than werewolf anyway but I wanted that achievement for 11 werewolf talents. Had to start a new save because of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    You know what is way more stupid than curing vampirism? That the only character that can turn you in a werewolf after finishing the companions quest-line is not marked as essential after that.

    Seriously on the character I play the most I had Aela as my follower and there was this ork NPC at level 25 that hit like a truck and somehow he killed her. I noticed that when it was too late to load that save so I ended up with a dead Aela.

    Later I cured lycanthropy with that hagraven heads. So then Dawnguard is released and you can suddenly turn into a werewolf again after being cured. However the only character that can infect you again is AELA !!!

    Vampire lord is cooler than werewolf anyway but I wanted that achievement for 11 werewolf talents. Had to start a new save because of that
    I don't see anything wrong with this. The only wrong thing is that there are NPCs marked as "essentials" that are unkillable in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with this. The only wrong thing is that there are NPCs marked as "essentials" that are unkillable in the first place.
    What would you say if Serana is not essential and can be killed permanently rendering you unable to contact the Vampire-Lord form ? Aela should be essential too.

  8. #6248
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    What would you say if Serana is not essential and can be killed permanently rendering you unable to contact the Vampire-Lord form ? Aela should be essential too.
    He is nostalgic, he finds it fun to save-whore.

  9. #6249
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    What would you say if Serana is not essential and can be killed permanently rendering you unable to contact the Vampire-Lord form ? Aela should be essential too.
    It would be a real consequence for my actions.

    What would you say if Serana is not essential and can be killed permanently rendering you unable to contact the Vampire-Lord form ? Aela should be essential too.
    When does objectivity change to nostalgy? And what exactly nostalgy has to do with it? Or save whoring? I only save when I quit in any game except linear FPS maps (Which usually auto save every five step anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    When does objectivity change to nostalgy? And what exactly nostalgy has to do with it? Or save whoring? I only save when I quit in any game except linear FPS maps (Which usually auto save every five step anyway).
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge. And I'm imagining it, without really having any sort of emotion of that in one way to another. So what now?

    In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC back again if necessary.

    Besides, you didn't answer anything, only tried to ask silly things. Why? You don't have answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.
    Yeah ... sometimes the game glitches and your follower falls through the map. Had that happen to me at least 3 times. Shadowmere died twice because it suddenly died with no enemy around and no damage recieved.

    If there were no essential characters you could basically destroy your whole game if a dragon attacks a major town for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Yeah ... sometimes the game glitches and your follower falls through the map. Had that happen to me at least 3 times. Shadowmere died twice because it suddenly died with no enemy around and no damage recieved.

    If there were no essential characters you could basically destroy your whole game if a dragon attacks a major town for example.
    I already responed to those.

    "In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC/item/whatever back again if necessary."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge. And I'm imagining it, without really having any sort of emotion of that in one way to another. So what now?

    In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC back again if necessary.

    Besides, you didn't answer anything, only tried to ask silly things. Why? You don't have answers.
    1. Not everyone likes to mess with save edits and stuff.

    2. Not everyone plays Skyrim on the PC.

    So yeah as I already said Aela should be essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I already responed to those.

    "In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC/item/whatever back again if necessary."
    So you think that everyone plays on the PC??? You think that NPCs shouldn´t be essential because you can spawn them again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    1. Not everyone likes to mess with save edits and stuff.

    2. Not everyone plays Skyrim on the PC.

    So yeah as I already said Aela should be essential.
    I didn't claim anything opposite, only stated my opinion on the subject which you two started arguing against as "wrong" or "nostalgic" (wherever that came from) and I responded accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I didn't claim anything opposite, only stated my opinion on the subject which you two started arguing against as "wrong" or "nostalgic" (wherever that came from) and I responded accordingly.
    Yeah but I only said that I dislike that she is not essential and you then claimed that no NPC should be essential because you can respawn them anyway, which is kinda stupid.

    I am glad that the xbox gamers got something for their lack of messing with the save-files.

  18. #6258
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    Yeah but I only said that I dislike that she is not essential and you then claimed that no NPC should be essential because you can respawn them anyway, which is kinda stupid.

    I am glad that the xbox gamers got something for their lack of messing with the save-files.
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    First time posting in this thread despite spending an obscene amount of time in the game (237 hrs according to Steam!). I'm sure half of that time was spent grinding my bloody Smithing skill to be able to craft Daedric though!! ¬_¬

    Anyway, I wanted to share a screeny to demonstrate how awesome Serana looks in theRoadstrokers Rogue Sorceress Outfit:



    Also, thought I'd post a screeny of my character at their best-looking (she has since become a grizzly, old dude, but I still have the save files). This is Vesha Iceglance, the vampire hunter:



    (Main mods on; ApachiiSkyHair, Triss armour recolour, Daedric katana, scarves & cloaks and Bandanas)

    Pumped for the 'Dragonborn' DLC getting to the PC. Looks interesting to say the least!

    Also, cannot freaking wait for Skywind to be released! (The dudes who made Morroblivion are porting Morrowind into the Skyrim engine! )
    Looks so good: http://morroblivion.com/category/ima...l-overhaul-wip
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    Still waiting on them to allow me to marry Serana.

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