1. #6241
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    When does objectivity change to nostalgy? And what exactly nostalgy has to do with it? Or save whoring? I only save when I quit in any game except linear FPS maps (Which usually auto save every five step anyway).
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.

  2. #6242
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge. And I'm imagining it, without really having any sort of emotion of that in one way to another. So what now?

    In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC back again if necessary.

    Besides, you didn't answer anything, only tried to ask silly things. Why? You don't have answers.
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  3. #6243
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge.
    http://uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Shum_gro-Yarug

  4. #6244
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Now imagine that important NPC falls of the bridge and dies,

    oops, I saved 6 hours ago.
    Yeah ... sometimes the game glitches and your follower falls through the map. Had that happen to me at least 3 times. Shadowmere died twice because it suddenly died with no enemy around and no damage recieved.

    If there were no essential characters you could basically destroy your whole game if a dragon attacks a major town for example.

  5. #6245
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Yeah ... sometimes the game glitches and your follower falls through the map. Had that happen to me at least 3 times. Shadowmere died twice because it suddenly died with no enemy around and no damage recieved.

    If there were no essential characters you could basically destroy your whole game if a dragon attacks a major town for example.
    I already responed to those.

    "In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC/item/whatever back again if necessary."
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  6. #6246
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I have yet to see anyone just randomly dropping off the bridge. And I'm imagining it, without really having any sort of emotion of that in one way to another. So what now?

    In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC back again if necessary.

    Besides, you didn't answer anything, only tried to ask silly things. Why? You don't have answers.
    1. Not everyone likes to mess with save edits and stuff.

    2. Not everyone plays Skyrim on the PC.

    So yeah as I already said Aela should be essential.

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-13 at 11:06 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I already responed to those.

    "In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC/item/whatever back again if necessary."
    So you think that everyone plays on the PC??? You think that NPCs shouldn´t be essential because you can spawn them again?

  7. #6247
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    1. Not everyone likes to mess with save edits and stuff.

    2. Not everyone plays Skyrim on the PC.

    So yeah as I already said Aela should be essential.
    I didn't claim anything opposite, only stated my opinion on the subject which you two started arguing against as "wrong" or "nostalgic" (wherever that came from) and I responded accordingly.
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  8. #6248
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I didn't claim anything opposite, only stated my opinion on the subject which you two started arguing against as "wrong" or "nostalgic" (wherever that came from) and I responded accordingly.
    Yeah but I only said that I dislike that she is not essential and you then claimed that no NPC should be essential because you can respawn them anyway, which is kinda stupid.

    I am glad that the xbox gamers got something for their lack of messing with the save-files.

  9. #6249
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    Yeah but I only said that I dislike that she is not essential and you then claimed that no NPC should be essential because you can respawn them anyway, which is kinda stupid.

    I am glad that the xbox gamers got something for their lack of messing with the save-files.
    MMO Champion, the forum where one has to type "In my opinion," infront of every sentence just so people understand that yes, it is in fact my opinion when I say something.
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  10. #6250
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    First time posting in this thread despite spending an obscene amount of time in the game (237 hrs according to Steam!). I'm sure half of that time was spent grinding my bloody Smithing skill to be able to craft Daedric though!! ¬_¬

    Anyway, I wanted to share a screeny to demonstrate how awesome Serana looks in theRoadstrokers Rogue Sorceress Outfit:



    Also, thought I'd post a screeny of my character at their best-looking (she has since become a grizzly, old dude, but I still have the save files). This is Vesha Iceglance, the vampire hunter:



    (Main mods on; ApachiiSkyHair, Triss armour recolour, Daedric katana, scarves & cloaks and Bandanas)

    Pumped for the 'Dragonborn' DLC getting to the PC. Looks interesting to say the least!

    Also, cannot freaking wait for Skywind to be released! (The dudes who made Morroblivion are porting Morrowind into the Skyrim engine! )
    Looks so good: http://morroblivion.com/category/ima...l-overhaul-wip
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  11. #6251
    Still waiting on them to allow me to marry Serana.

  12. #6252
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    I already responed to those.

    "In cases of bugs I can use the console to spawn the NPC/item/whatever back again if necessary."
    Then use console to remove essential tags and bugger off.

  13. #6253
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Then use console to remove essential tags and bugger off.
    Nah, I rather discuss about things in FORUM. You know, the place meant for discussing! I know, it's a tough concept to begin with but let me present you another right away. Be prepared though, this one might be hard to swallow. Sometimes discussions might have differing opinions on the subject!

    I'm sorry if this somehow burst the bubble of circlejerking you so obviously lived in but the truth had to come out one way or another. Besides, it's you who should've buggered off in the first place as your comments from the very beginning were hostile and belittleing, reeking of arrogance. Just like now.
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  14. #6254
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Nah, I rather discuss about things in FORUM. You know, the place meant for discussing! I know, it's a tough concept to begin with but let me present you another right away. Be prepared though, this one might be hard to swallow. Sometimes discussions might have differing opinions on the subject!

    I'm sorry if this somehow burst the bubble of circlejerking you so obviously lived in but the truth had to come out one way or another. Besides, it's you who should've buggered off in the first place as your comments from the very beginning were hostile and belittleing, reeking of arrogance. Just like now.
    You say discussing, but I've yet to see you considering anyone else's experience in the game. What Megaira said is true, and I agree with Verdugo. If you can't accept any problems outside your own, bugger off.

  15. #6255
    The bickering is getting a little out of hand. Let's get back on topic and be excellent to one another.

  16. #6256
    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    All I can say is, browsing mods is so addicting.
    LOL So true. I love watching MXR's skyrim weekly channel. I've gotten to the point that I've already downloaded most of the mods before they are showcased in some videos but it's still fun watching MXR's take on things and he does bring out some hidden gems sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    I would say that Dragonborn is absolutely worth the price you pay for it (got at least 35 hours out of it so far)
    That's awesome. So subjectively speaking it IS to the magnitude of awesomeness of Shivering Isles. I never actually manged to finish SS for Oblivion because I got it like a week before Skyrim launched but it's great to know about Dragonborn.
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  17. #6257
    Does anyone know a mod that increases the number of perks in each tree in a balanced way but doesn't need over 100 skill? I'm using one right now that's decent but unfortunately you need up to level 300 skill for them which is kind of making my character too strong too fast. I already found a mod that slows down leveling (with vanilla, it's way too easy to get skills to 100 and it become boring after that if there's nowhere left to advance as well as making it better to train other skills to gain levels).

    I've already tried looking but most of the mods out there are just unbalanced, raise the caps above 100 (and when youre at 150-200 skill, everything dies in 1 hit even at master difficulty and no one sees you even if youre right under their nose when sneaking).

  18. #6258
    Stood in the Fire Rafax's Avatar
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    Skyrim Redone has teh best perk trees I have ever seen and it scales everything up including mobs to mach.

  19. #6259
    Is Skyrim worth the money, if I don't have the money to spend?

    Bored out of my mind, and want something free to play, can't find anything... >_<"

  20. #6260
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafax View Post
    Skyrim Redone has teh best perk trees I have ever seen and it scales everything up including mobs to mach.
    Looked it up and I might use but it's more of an entire overhaul with lots of things I don't like (for example including new weapons and armor just for me, Im going for immersion so things that dont really make sense from lore perspective or otherwise are out.)

    so Im mainly looking for mods that

    -allow greater specialization without making you a level 500 jack of all trades monster that can 1 shot dragons with 1 hand, burn them to a crisp with the other and then on top of than can make a town fight each other, smith the best items, craft potions with 5000 gold and so on.

    -ai improvements, tweaks, bugfixes etc.

    -immersion mods, already have one that makes me need food and sleep and Im mostly satisfied with it

    -some vampire mod that makes them more realistic if I choose to be one, as in harder to run around in daylight, more powerful than normal people, even if it's slight and feeding makes you stronger, not weaker (that doesnt really make sense at all:P TES vampires are weird)

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