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    I have one question for those who have finished the main quest.

    I know the blades ask you to kill Paarthurnax which I don't want to do but it would leave an unfinished quest in the journal as well as locking me out from interacting with the blades. But I've read this quest will go away on it's own after finishing the main questline and you can talk to blades again and get their services, is that true? I'm asking it because there's a mod that makes this quest go away but I'd rather not get it if there's an "official" way to deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    I have one question for those who have finished the main quest.

    I know the blades ask you to kill Paarthurnax which I don't want to do but it would leave an unfinished quest in the journal as well as locking me out from interacting with the blades. But I've read this quest will go away on it's own after finishing the main questline and you can talk to blades again and get their services, is that true? I'm asking it because there's a mod that makes this quest go away but I'd rather not get it if there's an "official" way to deal with it.
    The mod shouldn't interfere with the main quest chain. Unless of course the mods intends to. In that case that information should be included in the description on the mod page. Either way, there are console commands that you can use to change your progress on quests so you wont lock yourself in.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/C...mands_(Skyrim)

    Just go under the "Quest commands" tab and you get all the info you need
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    I have one question for those who have finished the main quest.

    I know the blades ask you to kill Paarthurnax which I don't want to do but it would leave an unfinished quest in the journal as well as locking me out from interacting with the blades. But I've read this quest will go away on it's own after finishing the main questline and you can talk to blades again and get their services, is that true? I'm asking it because there's a mod that makes this quest go away but I'd rather not get it if there's an "official" way to deal with it.
    If it's the mod I think it is, grab it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    If it's the mod I think it is, grab it.

    Putting Delphine in her place was awesome, even if her responses aren't voiced.
    Yea, it is:P

    I'm just a bit obsessed with whats canon and normally don't use any mods that alter lore or add not lore friendly weapons, armor, NPCs etc. So if it actually goes away on it's own and the blades return to talking to you and give the usual benefits, quests etc. it would be the best.

    That said, putting Delphine in her place is not exactly against the lore. I wouldn't get a mod that teaches the dark brotherhood to love for example but aren't the blades supposed to serve the dragonborn, not visa versa? It doesnt make sense that they just tell you to get out and not come back until the job is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    I'm just a bit obsessed with whats canon and normally don't use any mods that alter lore or add not lore friendly weapons, armor, NPCs etc.
    That reminds me of a question I have. I've been wondering about the "lore-ity" (this is now a word) of armors like Ebony, Glass, Daedric etc. I almost never see anyone wear them. How would I know how to craft them? Wikia doesn't have any lore-related info about these pieces.

    I ask because I like to have a reason to put perk into their smithing, not just "Oh, here, you're level 20, suddenly you know how to craft Orcish armor." For Dwarven, I plan to only put point into it once I visit Markath, where I learnt how to craft dwarven armor. Orcish armor, only once I am friendly with an orcish stronghold (I remember being able to interact with orcs, but I don't remember how).

    Where is ebony and glass from? And do elves other than high elves wear elven armor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    (I remember being able to interact with orcs, but I don't remember how).
    Talk to either of the orc smiths in Markarth and they should direct you to an orc stronghold nearby.

    Can't help you with the other stuff. Not really an Elder Scrolls lore buff.
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    I don't think there are any official lore on them. Personally I believe that ebony armor originates from the Altmers (High elves) same as with glass armor. From a bit of googling it appears that ebony is a form of volcanic meteoric metal. Glass(Malachite) is also a volcanic material, it would make sense that the High elves would use similar compounds to craft their armor and weapons.
    Also, both glass and ebony armor are very similar in design so I'm almost certain it's Elvish craftsmanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    That reminds me of a question I have. I've been wondering about the "lore-ity" (this is now a word) of armors like Ebony, Glass, Daedric etc. I almost never see anyone wear them. How would I know how to craft them? Wikia doesn't have any lore-related info about these pieces.

    I ask because I like to have a reason to put perk into their smithing, not just "Oh, here, you're level 20, suddenly you know how to craft Orcish armor." For Dwarven, I plan to only put point into it once I visit Markath, where I learnt how to craft dwarven armor. Orcish armor, only once I am friendly with an orcish stronghold (I remember being able to interact with orcs, but I don't remember how).

    Where is ebony and glass from? And do elves other than high elves wear elven armor?
    Well, there are smithing books about it. I know I found one that teaches to temper glass and another about making daedric armor. So I guess you could read them first. I had a much bigger problem with something similar though. It was so super easy to become master at some schools of magic as well as crafting. Just cast some spells at the wall, do a few easy quests and enchant a few boots and you're the best possible illusionist and enchanter there can be as well as get to be the archmage in just a few days after joining the college.

    So I just got a mod and tuned the exp rates really down, 2-10 times depending on a skill as well as made crafting stuff take time (so I cant just spam 100 potions in an instant) and together with needs mod, which makes me want to eat, drink and sleep it's actually challenging to get crafting up now and bad idea to make 100s of iron daggers or craft some useless potion over and over. It's surprising how well it turned out. Paying for training suddenly became really important and more importantly found items are actually much more needed and I can keep playing the style I like most and still advance in it as well as having time to try every spell.
    This also solved any lore problems I had.. more or less. After spending 2 months ingame, taking lessons and smithing stuff at the Riften Blacksmith, I think it's more than reasonable that I can now craft orcish armor and even improve magical items

    Vanilla experience was just bad for me. Breeze through levels even at master.. 100 in all crafting in a few hours as well as maxed main skills. Everything below ebony, daedric and dragonhide armor became useless by then as well as all rewards and artifacts because enchanting items yourself was just so much better. Now Im actually still using my trusty old dwarven dagger (true, it still 1-2 shots almost everything from sneak and I've improved it quite a bit:P) and Nightingale bow after maybe 100 hours or more and I havent even finished 1/3 of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeavline View Post
    I don't think there are any official lore on them. Personally I believe that ebony armor originates from the Altmers (High elves) same as with glass armor. From a bit of googling it appears that ebony is a form of volcanic meteoric metal. Glass(Malachite) is also a volcanic material, it would make sense that the High elves would use similar compounds to craft their armor and weapons.
    Also, both glass and ebony armor are very similar in design so I'm almost certain it's Elvish craftsmanship.

    I'm sure there's some clues in winterhold library, hidden away in some long forgotten book
    "ebony" exists in real life too, it's a vulcanic glass and american natives made weapons from it:P It has a different name but it's still black and hard.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    "ebony" exists in real life too, it's a vulcanic glass and american natives made weapons from it:P It has a different name but it's still black and hard.
    Hah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    "ebony" exists in real life too, it's a vulcanic glass and american natives made weapons from it:P It has a different name but it's still black and hard.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian
    Oh I misread the article then. As you said, it's still black and hard so doesn't matter xD
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    Hah
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    We were all thinking it.

    Still no news on PC Dragonborn...
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    Love the Uncapper. My game is so difficult it's making me cherish every advancement in level. Entire camps aggro if I attack one of them and they didn't die. I'm forced to bring two followers - I could bring more to make things easier, but I like the number two and makes me feel like an ME squad. XD

    Still deciding on who to bring though. I like Farkas, so I take him along. Haven't really gotten many followers yet. Jenassa seems pretty strong, but I wonder how she stacks up against Aela.

    Also, thanks for the info on ebony et al. Just surprised I almost never seen anyone wear those armor. Elven armor is the highest grade I've seen enemies wear - and only by Thalmor scums.

    Btw, if anyone is curious, I'm done with ENBs. They just don't fit my playstyle and I've wasted 4 days tweaking them. >.>

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  13. #6493
    Does anyone know a mod that changes the graphics of wielding spells? Instead of those silly orbs, have fiery,icy,crackling hands, maybe something else?

    And is there any mod that allows the casting of spells while still wielding the weapon, using the weapon of choice as a means to cast the spell? I want to cast lightning through my twohanded axe, or dagger, or hell, staff. I've always felt the whole casting thing is off by a mile. Equip spells? Come ooon.

    So if anyone has any similar mods or even conversions, let me know. Looking forward to it.

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    I started playing after a few months, downloaded some mods and the game has improved a lot.
    Did they reduce the number of random dragon encounters? I'm with 8 hours playtime on my current character and didn't found a single random dragon.

    I'm on the quest ''Diplomatic Immunity'', and using these mods:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdecker View Post
    I started playing after a few months, downloaded some mods and the game has improved a lot.
    Did they reduce the number of random dragon encounters? I'm with 8 hours playtime on my current character and didn't found a single random dragon.
    Same here. I am level 17, got Fus Ro Dah, and never saw a single dragon after the first one (outside of dragon lairs, I mean).

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    So I was thinking of actually grabbing this game on steam (used to have it on my old PC), and was wondering, has there been anything new added from the first 2-3 patches other then hotfixes/updates to bugs? Onlt thing I really know is that you can't spam daggers to max BS anymore. Also, any recommended mods, graphical/content?
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    very informative, thank you

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    Some questions to Skyrim Redone users

    Is it worth getting? There's a lot of changes there that I don't like and some that I hate but there's a lot that I like as well. Fortunately the bad changes are all in the main module so would getting the rest be worth it?

    Im more or less happy with vanilla perks and skills with the exception of lockpicking and pickpocket obviously but since there are so many bad changes and I cant get it without adding non-vanilla weapons (which Im adamant about not getting). Well, in any case, is this mod good and would it still work and be worth it without the main module? I already fixed all the cheat loops anyway with other mods.

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    I still haven't gotten TK dodge to work but it looks like TK's done it again and this time hopefully it'll be easier to make work: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/29137/

    Can't wait to get home and try it out.

    Also I want to start an unarmed character but with skyre. But I don't want to level from scratch and I don't want to have to scrap the character when Dragonborn comes out until tendos updates skyre. What do?

    P.S. How do I update SKSE without uninstalling and reinstalling an update version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    I still haven't gotten TK dodge to work but it looks like TK's done it again and this time hopefully it'll be easier to make work: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/29137/

    Can't wait to get home and try it out.

    Also I want to start an unarmed character but with skyre. But I don't want to level from scratch and I don't want to have to scrap the character when Dragonborn comes out until tendos updates skyre. What do?

    P.S. How do I update SKSE without uninstalling and reinstalling an update version?
    open the console, type - help "respec"
    then - player.additem respecpotionidcode noofpotions

    Think there's a line in the skse ini for auto updating

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