[Megathread] Skyrim Discussion

[Lizbeth]

Huh?

Download ASIS, follow readme. Open patcher, check the box "Make NPC use new spells", run patcher. Tada. NPC now shoots crazy stuffs at you rather htan just backpedaling with Flames and ... that Ice one.

Really? I guess I was expecting having to change their AI, scripts, mana (so they'd have enough) etc. Going to give it a try then.. but I guess they still wont use the spells effectively or use combos. Spamming the dots or debuffs on me would make them rather weak..:P But lets see what happens..

Doesn't seem to work though. I riled up the college:P But they still only cast apprentice and novice vanilla spells only..

[Fhi]

Really? I guess I was expecting having to change their AI, scripts, mana (so they'd have enough) etc. Going to give it a try then.. but I guess they still wont use the spells effectively or use combos. Spamming the dots or debuffs on me would make them rather weak..:P But lets see what happens..

Doesn't seem to work though. I riled up the college:P But they still only cast apprentice and novice vanilla spells only..

Do you use Skyre still? ASIS' Automatic Spells does not work with Skyre - Enemies.esp (it does work with Apocalypse) - that causes ASIS to fail to generate the proper plugin. You can see the list of plugins that don't work with ASIS (called exclusions) in the ASIS.ini file. It's one of my biggest reason for staying away from SkyRE, too much incompatibility with others, and is only good if you use Skyre and only the complete Skyre.

[Lizbeth]

Do you use Skyre still? ASIS' Automatic Spells does not work with Skyre - Enemies.esp (it does work with Apocalypse) - that causes ASIS to fail to generate the proper plugin. You can see the list of plugins that don't work with ASIS (called exclusions) in the ASIS.ini file. It's one of my biggest reason for staying away from SkyRE, too much incompatibility with others, and is only good if you use Skyre and only the complete Skyre.

Really? I tried it without the enemy mod too.. even rerun the patcher. No change. Cant fully uninstall Skyre because it will crash without the main module. Still, I guess I just have to live with it or wait for a Skyre compatibility mod. Doubt the enemies can actually use the new spells intelligently anyway and they work just fine (although some are slightly OP and scale too well) for me.

[aikoyamamato]

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18436

Not sure how this slipped my radar, with all the endorsements...I watch mods pretty closely, or so I thought!
Thanks for this, I've been playing around and while it seems to conflict with some mods I was able to get it working with Wrye Bash.

[Yakobro]

Backpacks are cool
3.5mb img, mobile users be warned.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11163

[rainiothon]

We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?

Never noticed that before, interesting theory.

[Lizbeth]

Backpacks are cool
3.5mb img, mobile users be warned.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11163

Nice find.. although this will be the final game changing mod for me! Only updates and cosmetic ones from now on:P If I have to start over one more time, I dont know what I'll do:P

I set it to 0.1 exposure though for best immersion as I use 3x timescale and it doesn't make any sense when a nord freezes to death in slightly chilly weather in 20 minutes.. besides, I just want it for immersion not to be a distraction and hinderance all the time.

I still feeling Im missing something...

Does anyone know a good mod thats customizable and makes stuff take time? For example training per skill rank takes 1 hour or more, smithing items takes time, making potions etc. even eating.

[Fhi]

Does anyone know a good mod thats customizable and makes stuff take time? For example training per skill rank takes 1 hour or more, smithing items takes time, making potions etc. even eating.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16195
I considered it, but two issues - 1) it hasn't been updated for a long time 2) it's good for the occasional crafting, but if you want your skills to increase at any reasonable rate, it'll take months of in-game time. 6 hours to cook food or make potions. Not customizable.

This is something else you might be interested in, from the same author:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17559

Personally, I just use the wait function. My character is currently working in Riverwood at the sawmill and learning how to craft stuffs from Alvor. 4-6 hours for smithing seems reasonable, so I usually craft a couple of things (after using the wood chopping money to buy the ores from him) and it's night time. As for reading, I wait an hour for every 3 books that I read.

[Lizbeth]

This is something else you might be interested in, from the same author:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17559

Personally, I just use the wait function. My character is currently working in Riverwood at the sawmill and learning how to craft stuffs from Alvor. 4-6 hours for smithing seems reasonable, so I usually craft a couple of things (after using the wood chopping money to buy the ores from him) and it's night time. As for reading, I wait an hour for every 3 books that I read.

Good find, thanks! And yea, I actually did try that mod when I bought Skyrim soon after it came out. The times there are way too long. I use wait too at the moment and trying to guess how long this or that would take, like training 1 hour per skill, making potions 1 hour per type (cause you can make an entire cauldron, it would be stupid to boil and prepare each vial) and so on.

But I wish someone made that mod to be honest. There are mods that make you fatter or thinner based on calories in food you eat so this seems like a huge overlook.

[jermo22]

Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.

[Gouky]

Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.

use Player.additem itemID number of items. Helped me allot

[Lizbeth]

Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.

The timer starts counting from last visit. So if you go check after 3 days, then 10, then 15 etc. and the timer is 45 days, it never respawns.

[Yakobro]

Orc places often have eboy ore.
Now... where to find moonstone/quicksilver :|

[jermo22]

I did revert to old saves after i checked 10 and 30 and 45 days so that way the timer never reset . So idk whats wrong... do i need to clear out the whole mine or should that not matter? The color is back on the ore vein it just wont let me mine it.

[raist474]

Just read that post and I was like "WTF why have I not thought about the possibility that the Dragonborn is in fact TALOS"

You know kinda like the Nerevarine was Indoril Nerevar reborn. What if the Dovakhiin we play is the Avatar of Talos or shit even Talos himself?

We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?

So I bet on a DLC in which our Dragonborn discovers that he indeed is Talos reborn or a Avatar of him. The Nerevarine did not know about that either and Nerevar was some sort of god among the Dunmer much like Talos.

I could sort of see that. Its the only way the Thalmor have a chance of destroying him and fulfilling their long term goals, as well as a guaranteed way to revitalize the Empire. He's already more influential than most beings of his power.

[Flaks]

I don't know about the other game but it seems that in each game your character is waaaay more than meets the eye. I don't know if the Nerevarine storyarc was the main one for Morrowind but in Oblivion, the Champion of Cyrodiil ended up becoming Sheogorath himself which wasn't even directly part of the Oblivion main quest. Similarly I can see the Dragonborn "ascending" once again after you find out that your character truly is Talos and that would completely obliterate the White-Gold Concordat especially for the Nords.

[Lizbeth]

Just read that post and I was like "WTF why have I not thought about the possibility that the Dragonborn is in fact TALOS"

You know kinda like the Nerevarine was Indoril Nerevar reborn. What if the Dovakhiin we play is the Avatar of Talos or shit even Talos himself?

We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?

So I bet on a DLC in which our Dragonborn discovers that he indeed is Talos reborn or a Avatar of him. The Nerevarine did not know about that either and Nerevar was some sort of god among the Dunmer much like Talos.

Dragonborn DLC has already been out for over a month, just not for PC. So I doubt thats the case. I havent read about whats going to happen in detail there so I wouldnt spoil it for myself when I get it but.. Im pretty sure its about killing some old draugr dragonborn and has nothing to do with Talos or Thalmor. Also, Ysmir is just a title for dragonborns, I think but in any case, the graybeards don't know anything about that so it doesn't matter what they call you.

So if anything is going to be revealed, it's going to be either in some upcoming DLCs or in a next game. However, I don't think your character is Talos for too many reasons. 1. Thalmor vs Empire war - I just don't see it happening in Skyrim and it is unlikely they make a large enough DLC for it. 2. If the war is going to be in TES 6, your old character would be history and I doubt they let you play a (new) dragonborn again 3. Divines don't intervene, daedra do, they might not even be "real"(in the TES universe). Nerevarine wasn't a god but Vivecs friend or something like that who remained loyal to Azura so she brought him back and created the prophesy to put the Tribunal in their place for playing god.

[raist474]

I don't know about the other game but it seems that in each game your character is waaaay more than meets the eye. I don't know if the Nerevarine storyarc was the main one for Morrowind but in Oblivion, the Champion of Cyrodiil ended up becoming Sheogorath himself which wasn't even directly part of the Oblivion main quest. Similarly I can see the Dragonborn "ascending" once again after you find out that your character truly is Talos and that would completely obliterate the White-Gold Concordat especially for the Nords.

Talos could at any moment wipe out the Dominion if he chose to just as effortlessly as he "retconned" the Rainforests of Cyrodiil. He's just like Vivec, so he can't be truly killed unless he does it himself.

Just because you have "cheat codes" doesn't mean you have to use them, neither does Talos or Vivec have to.

[The Illusive Man]

Dragonborn DLC has already been out for over a month, just not for PC. So I doubt thats the case. I havent read about whats going to happen in detail there so I wouldnt spoil it for myself when I get it but.. Im pretty sure its about killing some old draugr dragonborn and has nothing to do with Talos or Thalmor. Also, Ysmir is just a title for dragonborns, I think but in any case, the graybeards don't know anything about that so it doesn't matter what they call you.

So if anything is going to be revealed, it's going to be either in some upcoming DLCs or in a next game. However, I don't think your character is Talos for too many reasons. 1. Thalmor vs Empire war - I just don't see it happening in Skyrim and it is unlikely they make a large enough DLC for it. 2. If the war is going to be in TES 6, your old character would be history and I doubt they let you play a (new) dragonborn again 3. Divines don't intervene, daedra do, they might not even be "real"(in the TES universe). Nerevarine wasn't a god but Vivecs friend or something like that who remained loyal to Azura so she brought him back and created the prophesy to put the Tribunal in their place for playing god.

I know that the Dragonborn DLC is about killing Miraak (the first Dragonborn) as I already play it since 1 month I meant the DLC after that one.

Wouldn´t it be perfect? The Thalmor want to forbid Talos worship and our Dragonborn is Talos? That could be an interesting situation.

Mabye they would want to kill him once they discover it.

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I could sort of see that. Its the only way the Thalmor have a chance of destroying him and fulfilling their long term goals, as well as a guaranteed way to revitalize the Empire. He's already more influential than most beings of his power.

Yeah that would make an interesting plot. The Thalmor would definately want to defeat him or banish him back or something.

Talos on the other hand would not be too amused about the fact that they want to forbid the worship of him so he prolly wants to teach them a lession.

He cannot die after all much like Vivec because they both are gods. I still think that Vivec is out there somewhere.

[Lizbeth]

I know that the Dragonborn DLC is about killing Miraak (the first Dragonborn) as I already play it since 1 month I meant the DLC after that one.

Wouldn´t it be perfect? The Thalmor want to forbid Talos worship and our Dragonborn is Talos? That could be an interesting situation.

Mabye they would want to kill him once they discover it.

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Yeah that would make an interesting plot. The Thalmor would definately want to defeat him or banish him back or something.

Talos on the other hand would not be too amused about the fact that they want to forbid the worship of him so he prolly wants to teach them a lession.

He cannot die after all much like Vivec because they both are gods. I still think that Vivec is out there somewhere.

Your character in Skyrim is not Talos. There are just too many reasons why he/she can't be. The dragonborn "gift" comes from Akatosh, not Talos, not only that but Talos would know if he is Talos. Would be kinda stupid to wipe your own memory and all skills so you could be killed by random bandits and wolves? Nerevarine didn't know about it because it was all Azura's doing, Nerever wasn't a god, he was just some dark elf who stayed loyal to Azura before she started .. intervening. The player didn't become a god in Morrowind either, just immortal (as in didn't age) and quite powerful.