1. #6941
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy Gecko View Post

    Achieve That is definitely one of the more interesting ones. This adds a bunch of custom achievements that give you various bonuses.
    Hah..this made me shake my head a bit there. Oh my god this game does not have achievements !? My life is over! hahahaha. /sigh. MMO's maken meer kapot dan je lief is. Sorry, no English translation for that one.

  2. #6942
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Hah..this made me shake my head a bit there. Oh my god this game does not have achievements !? My life is over! hahahaha. /sigh. MMO's maken meer kapot dan je lief is. Sorry, no English translation for that one.
    Actually the game does have achievements and in defence of the creator and people that may use it what exactly is wrong with it? It adds more to the game and gives you random things to do in-game I don't see how that can possibly be bad especially since it's free and doesn't cost a thing besides a small amount of bandwith.

  3. #6943
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyriok View Post
    Actually the game does have achievements and in defence of the creator and people that may use it what exactly is wrong with it? It adds more to the game and gives you random things to do in-game I don't see how that can possibly be bad especially since it's free and doesn't cost a thing besides a small amount of bandwith.
    It's the mindset that leads to the creation and desire of such a mod, not the application of the mod itself, that never ceases to amaze me. Achievements are filler content usually forced down your throat by a developer (one example being Blizzard) and people keep playing the game. Sometimes even just for those artificial achievements. But I never expected this silly addiction to be something that people would want to add to their games themselves...

    So what achievements are in? Jump from x height without dying?

  4. #6944
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    It's the mindset that leads to the creation and desire of such a mod, not the application of the mod itself, that never ceases to amaze me. Achievements are filler content usually forced down your throat by a developer (one example being Blizzard) and people keep playing the game. Sometimes even just for those artificial achievements. But I never expected this silly addiction to be something that people would want to add to their games themselves...

    So what achievements are in? Jump from x height without dying?
    As you said it keeps you playing the game, what exactly is wrong with a mod adding more to a single-player game? No I don't have it but as you said it's filler content people will be playing Skyrim more to get those extra achievements and in turn getting better value on the game they bought.

  5. #6945
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyriok View Post
    As you said it keeps you playing the game, what exactly is wrong with a mod adding more to a single-player game? No I don't have it but as you said it's filler content people will be playing Skyrim more to get those extra achievements and in turn getting better value on the game they bought.
    I find it funny when someone complains about something that "keeps people playing the game", when I thought that's the entire reason someone buys a game. To play it and keep playing it.

  6. #6946
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyriok View Post
    As you said it keeps you playing the game, what exactly is wrong with a mod adding more to a single-player game? No I don't have it but as you said it's filler content people will be playing Skyrim more to get those extra achievements and in turn getting better value on the game they bought.
    What I mean is, why do you need a mod that tells you how much of a good boy you are, in a single player game? There's thousands of mods that add value to your game. I play Skyrim very often with all kinds of different mods. I'm not complaining about "a random mod". Why do you need this semi-physical proof of the fact that you did something, when obviously, you know you did.

  7. #6947
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    What I mean is, why do you need a mod that tells you how much of a good boy you are, in a single player game? There's thousands of mods that add value to your game. I play Skyrim very often with all kinds of different mods. I'm not complaining about "a random mod". Why do you need this semi-physical proof of the fact that you did something, when obviously, you know you did.
    So I take it you didn't bother actually reading the mod description? Hell, even Lazy Gecko's brief blurb about it tells you that they give tangible rewards.
    Last edited by unholytestament; 2013-02-03 at 09:23 PM.

  8. #6948
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    So I take it you didn't bother actually reading the mod description? Hell, even Lacy Gecko's brief blurb about it tells you that they give tangible rewards.
    And? I can install a thousand mods that add reward to an event in-game. The thing about this, is the fact that I'm killing this man as my objective. I'm not killing him with the achievement as my objective. Adding reward (like flying mounts) to achievements makes the achievement more relevant? I think not. Adding rewards to a difficult encounter, that's relevant.

    Not some crazy "congratulations, here's your stroke of e-peen and here have a mount".

    So to summarize, why do you need achievements as a requirement for a reward, when the act itself should reward you. And the rest I said in the part you quoted.

  9. #6949
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    And? I can install a thousand mods that add reward to an event in-game. The thing about this, is the fact that I'm killing this man as my objective. I'm not killing him with the achievement as my objective. Adding reward (like flying mounts) to achievements makes the achievement more relevant? I think not. Adding rewards to a difficult encounter, that's relevant.

    Not some crazy "congratulations, here's your stroke of e-peen and here have a mount".
    Can you take your beef with WoW somewhere else? This is a Skyrim thread.

  10. #6950
    Quote Originally Posted by Pachycrocuta View Post
    I find it funny when someone complains about something that "keeps people playing the game", when I thought that's the entire reason someone buys a game. To play it and keep playing it.
    That I can strongly agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    And? I can install a thousand mods that add reward to an event in-game. The thing about this, is the fact that I'm killing this man as my objective. I'm not killing him with the achievement as my objective. Adding reward (like flying mounts) to achievements makes the achievement more relevant? I think not. Adding rewards to a difficult encounter, that's relevant.

    Not some crazy "congratulations, here's your stroke of e-peen and here have a mount".
    I don't have it installed but based on the screenshots provided on the mods page it also keeps statistics for how much gold you pickpocket, amount of chests looted, kilometres/miles covered, books read, dungeons cleared and I'm sure there's a few fun achievements in there too.

    You have to realize while some may enjoy installing mods for a new quest or dungeon to clear like yourself some enjoy more achievements to be human is to be different.

    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Can you take your beef with WoW somewhere else? This is a Skyrim thread.
    I have to agree with Unholy it really does seem that way.

  11. #6951
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Can you take your beef with WoW somewhere else? This is a Skyrim thread.
    Well, this was wondering about the "why in Skyrim", so not entirely off-topic, but I do agree that the involvement of third parties has made this specific topic, off-topic enough to stop continuing this. I'm happy you agree to disagree.


    I have to agree with Unholy it really does seem that way.
    It was an example. I'm sure you know what it means. I have beef with any type of achievement, but I understand they are in competitive and generally in online games, because there's people to show off to.

    I asked, why Skyrim. And yes, I subconsciously did register that neither of you managed to explain
    Last edited by Vespian; 2013-02-03 at 09:31 PM.

  12. #6952
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Well, this was wondering about the "why in Skyrim", so not entirely off-topic, but I do agree that the involvement of third parties has made this specific topic, off-topic enough to stop continuing this. I'm happy you agree to disagree.
    And we've reached the part of the argument where you put words in other people's mouths. Wonderful.

    But here's the best part about mods. The question is not "why in Skyrim?". The question is "why not?".

    Because it's a mod. Because it's fun. And the achievement stick you've got rammed up your ass does not dictate how anyone else has fun.

  13. #6953
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Because it's a mod. Because it's fun. And the achievement stick you've got rammed up your ass does not dictate how anyone else has fun.
    I'm not sure, but this qualifies for a report does it not? Not that I will, of course, but I had some hope that we could end this as decent people. Please refrain from using such language. It's not necessary. If you don't want to agree to disagree, then why did you end the discussion earlier and why are you still disagreeing with me, out loud, now.

    Edit: Just to make it obvious, This is a rhetorical question. I don't need an answer (which is what rhetorical means, but you know, forums). Just end it.

  14. #6954
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    I'm not sure, but this qualifies for a report does it not? Not that I will, of course, but I had some hope that we could end this as decent people. Please refrain from using such language. It's not necessary. If you don't want to agree to disagree, then why did you end the discussion earlier and why are you still disagreeing with me, out loud, now.
    The following would also qualify as a report but as you said let's ignore the the offensive language, it's not needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    MMO's maken meer kapot dan je lief is. Sorry, no English translation for that one.

  15. #6955
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyriok View Post
    The following would also qualify as a report but let's ignore the the offensive language, it's not needed.
    Really? Then what did I say? I said something in Dutch, that I'm unable to translate to English. It's ..a saying, basically, and sayings are heavily localized. Please don't make silly assumptions, it says nothing bad.

    What I said is, that MMO's break more than one would like. It just doesn't sound right in English.

  16. #6956
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Really? Then what did I say? I said something in Dutch, that I'm unable to translate to English. It's ..a saying, basically, and sayings are heavily localized. Please don't make silly assumptions, it says nothing bad.

    What I said is, that MMO's break more than one would like. It just doesn't sound right in English.
    Lol it really doesn't.

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  17. #6957
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Really? Then what did I say? I said something in Dutch, that I'm unable to translate to English. It's ..a saying, basically, and sayings are heavily localized. Please don't make silly assumptions, it says nothing bad.

    What I said is, that MMO's break more than one would like. It just doesn't sound right in English.
    In the rules it asks to only post in english. The reasoning behind it is not everyone knows the language and for all we know it could be an insult.

    But it really doesn't matter it typically is ignored.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/faq.php?faq=forumrules

    It's under general posting guidelines.
    Last edited by Lyriok; 2013-02-03 at 10:23 PM.

  18. #6958
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hoppins View Post
    In the rules it asks to only post in english. The reasoning behind it is not everyone knows the language and for all we know it could be an insult.
    Right, but why this:
    as you said let's ignore the the offensive language, it's not needed.
    Surely, you must have considered the possibility that I wasn't being offensive?

    And yes, gogo Dragonborn

  19. #6959
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Right, but why this:

    Surely, you must have considered the possibility that I wasn't being offensive?

    And yes, gogo Dragonborn
    I know you aren't as I'm half Dutch and know the saying/translation, just giving you a heads up to a rule as it can be taken the wrong way by someone else who might think it is an insult.

    I believe it translates to "Make more damage than you'd like" in english, I only know very little Dutch.

    But let's move on, very excited to see all the new armor coming with Dragonborn and I'm very interested in the story especially since it involves the first dragonborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    What I mean is, why do you need a mod that tells you how much of a good boy you are, in a single player game? There's thousands of mods that add value to your game. I play Skyrim very often with all kinds of different mods. I'm not complaining about "a random mod". Why do you need this semi-physical proof of the fact that you did something, when obviously, you know you did.
    Why not? It seems like you just don't like the mod and are trying to justify why you don't download it. It's all preference. I don't need achievements in my game, but I can understand why people are attracted to it. It gives them something extra to "aim" for, which they might not have an inclination or reason to do so on their own. Why must that be a bad thing?

    Ever hear of the "Go get it" concept? That's what I see this mod is for.

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