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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post

    We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

    A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?
    Never noticed that before, interesting theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakobo15 View Post
    Nice find.. although this will be the final game changing mod for me! Only updates and cosmetic ones from now on:P If I have to start over one more time, I dont know what I'll do:P

    I set it to 0.1 exposure though for best immersion as I use 3x timescale and it doesn't make any sense when a nord freezes to death in slightly chilly weather in 20 minutes.. besides, I just want it for immersion not to be a distraction and hinderance all the time.

    I still feeling Im missing something...

    Does anyone know a good mod thats customizable and makes stuff take time? For example training per skill rank takes 1 hour or more, smithing items takes time, making potions etc. even eating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    Does anyone know a good mod thats customizable and makes stuff take time? For example training per skill rank takes 1 hour or more, smithing items takes time, making potions etc. even eating.
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16195
    I considered it, but two issues - 1) it hasn't been updated for a long time 2) it's good for the occasional crafting, but if you want your skills to increase at any reasonable rate, it'll take months of in-game time. 6 hours to cook food or make potions. Not customizable.

    This is something else you might be interested in, from the same author:
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17559

    Personally, I just use the wait function. My character is currently working in Riverwood at the sawmill and learning how to craft stuffs from Alvor. 4-6 hours for smithing seems reasonable, so I usually craft a couple of things (after using the wood chopping money to buy the ores from him) and it's night time. As for reading, I wait an hour for every 3 books that I read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    This is something else you might be interested in, from the same author:
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17559

    Personally, I just use the wait function. My character is currently working in Riverwood at the sawmill and learning how to craft stuffs from Alvor. 4-6 hours for smithing seems reasonable, so I usually craft a couple of things (after using the wood chopping money to buy the ores from him) and it's night time. As for reading, I wait an hour for every 3 books that I read.
    Good find, thanks! And yea, I actually did try that mod when I bought Skyrim soon after it came out. The times there are way too long. I use wait too at the moment and trying to guess how long this or that would take, like training 1 hour per skill, making potions 1 hour per type (cause you can make an entire cauldron, it would be stupid to boil and prepare each vial) and so on.

    But I wish someone made that mod to be honest. There are mods that make you fatter or thinner based on calories in food you eat so this seems like a huge overlook.

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    Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jermo22 View Post
    Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.
    use Player.additem itemID number of items. Helped me allot
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    Quote Originally Posted by jermo22 View Post
    Can anyone help me? Its about Gloombound Mine. I've read several area's by just typing in google that you have to wait 10 days, 30days and 45 days for the Ebony Ore to respawn. I've waited 45 days and still hasn't respawned. I even went and did 2 quests in falkreath and then sat and waited for the other 42 days away from the mine. Do I have to clear the mine completely out because the only thing i mined was the ebony, I never touched the iron ore deposits because I dont need them. Can anyone help me out and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or should I wait more days or do i need to do more quests? Also, idk if this matters but I mined the ore on the 6th and im now on the 21st of the following month.
    The timer starts counting from last visit. So if you go check after 3 days, then 10, then 15 etc. and the timer is 45 days, it never respawns.

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    Orc places often have eboy ore.
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    I did revert to old saves after i checked 10 and 30 and 45 days so that way the timer never reset . So idk whats wrong... do i need to clear out the whole mine or should that not matter? The color is back on the ore vein it just wont let me mine it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    Just read that post and I was like "WTF why have I not thought about the possibility that the Dragonborn is in fact TALOS"

    You know kinda like the Nerevarine was Indoril Nerevar reborn. What if the Dovakhiin we play is the Avatar of Talos or shit even Talos himself?

    We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

    A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?

    So I bet on a DLC in which our Dragonborn discovers that he indeed is Talos reborn or a Avatar of him. The Nerevarine did not know about that either and Nerevar was some sort of god among the Dunmer much like Talos.
    I could sort of see that. Its the only way the Thalmor have a chance of destroying him and fulfilling their long term goals, as well as a guaranteed way to revitalize the Empire. He's already more influential than most beings of his power.

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    I don't know about the other game but it seems that in each game your character is waaaay more than meets the eye. I don't know if the Nerevarine storyarc was the main one for Morrowind but in Oblivion, the Champion of Cyrodiil ended up becoming Sheogorath himself which wasn't even directly part of the Oblivion main quest. Similarly I can see the Dragonborn "ascending" once again after you find out that your character truly is Talos and that would completely obliterate the White-Gold Concordat especially for the Nords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    Just read that post and I was like "WTF why have I not thought about the possibility that the Dragonborn is in fact TALOS"

    You know kinda like the Nerevarine was Indoril Nerevar reborn. What if the Dovakhiin we play is the Avatar of Talos or shit even Talos himself?

    We know that Tiber Septim is now the god Talos and maybe he foresaw the return of Alduin or Akatosh told him about it. So he decided to return to Nirn to defend his Skyrim. Much like Akatosh fought against Mehrunes Dagon.

    A big hint could be that the Greybeards call the Dragonborn "Ysmir". Talos was also know as "Ysmir - Dragon of the North". Why do they call our Dovakhiin with the title of Tiber Septim?

    So I bet on a DLC in which our Dragonborn discovers that he indeed is Talos reborn or a Avatar of him. The Nerevarine did not know about that either and Nerevar was some sort of god among the Dunmer much like Talos.
    Dragonborn DLC has already been out for over a month, just not for PC. So I doubt thats the case. I havent read about whats going to happen in detail there so I wouldnt spoil it for myself when I get it but.. Im pretty sure its about killing some old draugr dragonborn and has nothing to do with Talos or Thalmor. Also, Ysmir is just a title for dragonborns, I think but in any case, the graybeards don't know anything about that so it doesn't matter what they call you.

    So if anything is going to be revealed, it's going to be either in some upcoming DLCs or in a next game. However, I don't think your character is Talos for too many reasons. 1. Thalmor vs Empire war - I just don't see it happening in Skyrim and it is unlikely they make a large enough DLC for it. 2. If the war is going to be in TES 6, your old character would be history and I doubt they let you play a (new) dragonborn again 3. Divines don't intervene, daedra do, they might not even be "real"(in the TES universe). Nerevarine wasn't a god but Vivecs friend or something like that who remained loyal to Azura so she brought him back and created the prophesy to put the Tribunal in their place for playing god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    I don't know about the other game but it seems that in each game your character is waaaay more than meets the eye. I don't know if the Nerevarine storyarc was the main one for Morrowind but in Oblivion, the Champion of Cyrodiil ended up becoming Sheogorath himself which wasn't even directly part of the Oblivion main quest. Similarly I can see the Dragonborn "ascending" once again after you find out that your character truly is Talos and that would completely obliterate the White-Gold Concordat especially for the Nords.
    Talos could at any moment wipe out the Dominion if he chose to just as effortlessly as he "retconned" the Rainforests of Cyrodiil. He's just like Vivec, so he can't be truly killed unless he does it himself.

    Just because you have "cheat codes" doesn't mean you have to use them, neither does Talos or Vivec have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    Dragonborn DLC has already been out for over a month, just not for PC. So I doubt thats the case. I havent read about whats going to happen in detail there so I wouldnt spoil it for myself when I get it but.. Im pretty sure its about killing some old draugr dragonborn and has nothing to do with Talos or Thalmor. Also, Ysmir is just a title for dragonborns, I think but in any case, the graybeards don't know anything about that so it doesn't matter what they call you.

    So if anything is going to be revealed, it's going to be either in some upcoming DLCs or in a next game. However, I don't think your character is Talos for too many reasons. 1. Thalmor vs Empire war - I just don't see it happening in Skyrim and it is unlikely they make a large enough DLC for it. 2. If the war is going to be in TES 6, your old character would be history and I doubt they let you play a (new) dragonborn again 3. Divines don't intervene, daedra do, they might not even be "real"(in the TES universe). Nerevarine wasn't a god but Vivecs friend or something like that who remained loyal to Azura so she brought him back and created the prophesy to put the Tribunal in their place for playing god.
    I know that the Dragonborn DLC is about killing Miraak (the first Dragonborn) as I already play it since 1 month I meant the DLC after that one.

    Wouldn´t it be perfect? The Thalmor want to forbid Talos worship and our Dragonborn is Talos? That could be an interesting situation.

    Mabye they would want to kill him once they discover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raist474 View Post
    I could sort of see that. Its the only way the Thalmor have a chance of destroying him and fulfilling their long term goals, as well as a guaranteed way to revitalize the Empire. He's already more influential than most beings of his power.
    Yeah that would make an interesting plot. The Thalmor would definately want to defeat him or banish him back or something.

    Talos on the other hand would not be too amused about the fact that they want to forbid the worship of him so he prolly wants to teach them a lession.

    He cannot die after all much like Vivec because they both are gods. I still think that Vivec is out there somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    I know that the Dragonborn DLC is about killing Miraak (the first Dragonborn) as I already play it since 1 month I meant the DLC after that one.

    Wouldn´t it be perfect? The Thalmor want to forbid Talos worship and our Dragonborn is Talos? That could be an interesting situation.

    Mabye they would want to kill him once they discover it.

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    Yeah that would make an interesting plot. The Thalmor would definately want to defeat him or banish him back or something.

    Talos on the other hand would not be too amused about the fact that they want to forbid the worship of him so he prolly wants to teach them a lession.

    He cannot die after all much like Vivec because they both are gods. I still think that Vivec is out there somewhere.
    Your character in Skyrim is not Talos. There are just too many reasons why he/she can't be. The dragonborn "gift" comes from Akatosh, not Talos, not only that but Talos would know if he is Talos. Would be kinda stupid to wipe your own memory and all skills so you could be killed by random bandits and wolves? Nerevarine didn't know about it because it was all Azura's doing, Nerever wasn't a god, he was just some dark elf who stayed loyal to Azura before she started .. intervening. The player didn't become a god in Morrowind either, just immortal (as in didn't age) and quite powerful.

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    I've got a problem, Dark brotherhood questline. I do the first 3 contracts and the keeper is not at the sanctuary when i arrive back. could it be a mod causing the problem? Tbh i've never ran into that before, i ended up going back to and older save and killing astrid, hours wastedtrying to find a fix but it kept happening. Hate it when bugs happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbeth View Post
    Your character in Skyrim is not Talos. There are just too many reasons why he/she can't be. The dragonborn "gift" comes from Akatosh, not Talos, not only that but Talos would know if he is Talos. Would be kinda stupid to wipe your own memory and all skills so you could be killed by random bandits and wolves? Nerevarine didn't know about it because it was all Azura's doing, Nerever wasn't a god, he was just some dark elf who stayed loyal to Azura before she started .. intervening. The player didn't become a god in Morrowind either, just immortal (as in didn't age) and quite powerful.
    Well at-least it was nice to cause a bit of discussion and to read a few posts that did not consist of that generic "Which mod is good?" "Mod xy is so nice" "Mods, mods, mods" and so on.

    I was kinda tired of only reading about mods so I thought someone needs to bring in some lore and speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post

    Yeah that would make an interesting plot. The Thalmor would definately want to defeat him or banish him back or something.

    Talos on the other hand would not be too amused about the fact that they want to forbid the worship of him so he prolly wants to teach them a lession.

    He cannot die after all much like Vivec because they both are gods. I still think that Vivec is out there somewhere.
    They want to destroy all vestiges of mankind, Banning worship of Talos is the first step in the Human genocide, because they can't destroy the pillars of reality to end their current existence with the mankind around in any form

    Stuff from Developer Micheal Kirkblade on the Imperial library:

    [B]What appears to be an Altmeri commentary on Talos:[/B]

    To kill Man is to reach Heaven, from where we came before the Doom Drum's iniquity. When we accomplish this, we can escape the mockery and long shame of the Material Prison.

    To achieve this goal, we must:

    1) Erase the Upstart Talos from the mythic. His presence fortifies the Wheel of the Convention, and binds our souls to this plane.

    2) Remove Man not just from the world, but from the Pattern of Possibility, so that the very idea of them can be forgotten and thereby never again repeated.

    3) With Talos and the Sons of Talos removed, the Dragon will become ours to unbind. The world of mortals will be over. The Dragon will uncoil his hold on the stagnancy of linear time and move as Free Serpent again, moving through the Aether without measure or burden, spilling time along the innumerable roads we once traveled. And with that we will regain the mantle of the imperishable spirit.


    The majority of the Skyrim plot was engineered by the Thalmor as the first step to achieve this and weaken humanity.
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    That explains why the Imperials aren´t that happy about the Stormcloak rebellion and the "murder" of Torygg. The civil war only weakens humanity and allows the Thalmor to exploit that.

    I still think that it was reckless and without foresight what Ulfric did. He just wanted to become the new high king. If you meet him in Sovngarde after you killed him he even says that he was acting false and without thinking about the possibilities of his actions.

    Thats why I usually join the Imperials and not the Stormcloaks. Ulfric is a big dick to be honest. This war weakened both the Nord and the Imperials and could allow the Thalmor to defeat them in this weakened state.

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